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Conservative think tank CEPOS makes propaganda

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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 18:44:21
March 19 2010 15:25 GMT
#1
First the link:
http://jp.dk/uknews/article2015323.ece

Another link:
Google Docs

Ok so its about the Liberal/conservative think tank CEPOS making a report where the conclusion was that windmills (or was it danish windmills) wont do the job, therefore we should quit investing in windmills.

And why would anyone propose such a stupid thing one may ask.

The answer should be hard to find because it makes no sense, but its not.

The answer is that CEPOS got funded by Institute for Energy Research (IPR)which got their money from the coal and the oil industry. This is fucked!!!

The report got a lot of attention in the US!!

Meanwhile danish scientist took the task to look for miss information in the report made by CEPOS and they deem it ful of mistakes.

So you see this is a big scandale. Windmillgate anyone?

Also dont listen to anyone who are against saving the climate, the chances that they got their money from the oil and coal industry is extremely high.

And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
March 19 2010 15:31 GMT
#2
How is it both a liberal AND conservative think tank...
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exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 15:37:01
March 19 2010 15:36 GMT
#3
i dont know the difference between liberal and conservative sry because in danish its like 2 words for the same thing.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
March 19 2010 15:38 GMT
#4
On March 20 2010 00:36 exeexe wrote:
i dont know the difference between liberal and conservative sry because in danish its like 2 words for the same thing.


Hahaha
That is so deep
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love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 15:42:26
March 19 2010 15:41 GMT
#5
you broke the layout.
And yes. This is sad, but propaganda like this is everywhere. Like literally.
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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 15:44:11
March 19 2010 15:42 GMT
#6
Just to remove any misunderstanding, CEPOS is apparently a CONSERVATIVE think-tank.
So title is wrong. I don't get how you confused it. It says conservative think thank outright in the first line of the article you linked.
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
March 19 2010 15:43 GMT
#7
liberal / conservative - who cares, its not the issue here
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
March 19 2010 15:45 GMT
#8
I care, because I'm liberal, and I certainly don't want to be associated with those dirty conservatives.

<.<
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
March 19 2010 15:45 GMT
#9
On March 20 2010 00:41 love1another wrote:
you broke the layout.
And yes. This is sad, but propaganda like this is everywhere. Like literally.


I just think more people should be more aware of this because if it was the other way around, scientist making global warming more dangerous than it is, there would be huge headlines everywhere.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
March 19 2010 15:46 GMT
#10
On March 20 2010 00:45 Conquest101 wrote:
I care, because I'm liberal, and I certainly don't want to be associated with those dirty conservatives.

<.<

i see
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 16:39:00
March 19 2010 16:06 GMT
#11
lol, of course windmills won't do the job and are inefficient on so many levels. And I'm not even from Denmark.
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32160 Posts
March 19 2010 16:14 GMT
#12
On March 20 2010 00:43 exeexe wrote:
liberal / conservative - who cares, its not the issue here

plus, im pretty sure that even the most liberal american politicians barely pass for moderate by you guys

the American stereotype owns abroad haha
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zeppelin
Profile Joined December 2007
United States565 Posts
March 19 2010 16:58 GMT
#13
the way america uses 'liberal' is the opposite of how the rest of the world uses it for those of you that are confused

liberal in america means left-wing, liberal in europe means neoliberal as in anti-regulation
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
March 19 2010 17:00 GMT
#14
On March 20 2010 01:58 zeppelin wrote:
the way america uses 'liberal' is the opposite of how the rest of the world uses it for those of you that are confused

liberal in america means left-wing, liberal in europe means neoliberal as in anti-regulation


yeah and US left wing in Europe is really no more than the center lol - just to enhance the confusion even further.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
malathion
Profile Joined March 2009
United States362 Posts
March 19 2010 17:03 GMT
#15
On March 20 2010 01:06 ondik wrote:
lol, of course windmills won't do the job and are inefficient on so many levels. And I'm not even from Denmark.

Lol yeah free energy is so inefficient compared to oil and coal. Good thing we have someone not from denmark to clear that up
JodoYodo
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1772 Posts
March 19 2010 17:09 GMT
#16
Wind energy is good but also circumstantial. They can very rarely run at full generating capacity, and obviously can be susceptible to weather conditions. Texas recently replaced a huge chunk of their generation (4000MW+) with windmills and then they ran into major shortage problems and price spikes when the wind died down unexpectedly.
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
March 19 2010 17:43 GMT
#17
On March 20 2010 02:03 malathion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2010 01:06 ondik wrote:
lol, of course windmills won't do the job and are inefficient on so many levels. And I'm not even from Denmark.

Lol yeah free energy is so inefficient compared to oil and coal. Good thing we have someone not from denmark to clear that up


Good thing you know LCA and got exactly the point i was talking about.
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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
March 19 2010 17:51 GMT
#18
On March 20 2010 01:58 zeppelin wrote:
the way america uses 'liberal' is the opposite of how the rest of the world uses it for those of you that are confused

liberal in america means left-wing, liberal in europe means neoliberal as in anti-regulation


I hate this. Wish America would use the same political terminology as the rest of the world.

Mind you, us Canadians are kind of guilty as well thanks to you guys... T_T
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-19 18:13:09
March 19 2010 18:08 GMT
#19
The term "liberal" is incredibly vague and really doesn't have much left-right connotation in and of itself. Pretty much everyone who believes in the necessity of a constitutionally limited state which exists only to serve its people can be labeled a liberal.

I would say its use has been badly distorted by both communities.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
March 19 2010 18:22 GMT
#20
Just because funding comes from somewhere that may have a vested interest in a certain outcome does not mean that the research is negatively impacted. The money needs to come from somewhere, and those interested in the figures are more likely to pay for it.

You can't say that just because a study funded by big pharma found that homeopathy is a joke that it's "totally not true" and "zomg hidden agenda", big pharma is interested in health (among other thing$) and will therefore be the ones to pay for it.

Most research funding comes from the government or private companies, but companies aren't going to pay to research shit they don't care about, so it usually comes to the government. But if the government were to fund research about the windmills they support then "totally not true" and "zomg hidden agenda". Sometimes this stuff is legit.
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