• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:06
CEST 23:06
KST 06:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th156Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners High level ptr replays? where can I find them? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
Cara Refund Tiket Agoda The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8754 users

Scary

Blogs > jalstar
Post a Reply
Normal
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 05 2010 10:43 GMT
#1
At the moment, the youngest starting player for a proleague team (someone among the 4 most frequently played players) is (T)Flash. Yeah.

Second youngest starter is (Z)Killer, by about 11 days, and there are progamers younger than Flash such as CJ's 15-year-old (P)Snow, or STX's 16-year-old (T)Bogus.

**
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2298 Posts
January 05 2010 10:54 GMT
#2
This isnt scary at all so 1/5
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 11:01 GMT
#3
yawn
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 11:01 GMT
#4
I'm actually really tired! 12 am and I didn't sleep this night
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
January 05 2010 11:16 GMT
#5
That's not scary. THIS is scary:
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 11:55:11
January 05 2010 11:54 GMT
#6
On January 05 2010 20:16 Warrior Madness wrote:
That's not scary. THIS is scary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3far9oHZOsI


that was like a wtf combination of wtfreaky and wtfunny

not purely scary tho

lol
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
January 05 2010 12:06 GMT
#7
Killer looks.. younger than his actual age I see.
POGGERS
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
January 05 2010 12:16 GMT
#8
Holy fuck, Flash has a 70% win percentage over 340 games played.

funny how there was all the bonjwa talk about bisu and jaedong, and it turns out Flash is the real candidate. He's really looking out of this world lately.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
January 05 2010 12:19 GMT
#9
On January 05 2010 21:16 niteReloaded wrote:
Holy fuck, Flash has a 70% win percentage over 340 games played.

funny how there was all the bonjwa talk about bisu and jaedong, and it turns out Flash is the real candidate. He's really looking out of this world lately.


we terrans knew Flash was gonna be back =) just the newb zerg/toss users
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 05 2010 12:19 GMT
#10
Flash's age isn't scary. What's scary is his win rate. 70% over so many games. Insane. The fact that he only has one major title (GOM Excluded) is insane.
God Bless
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 05 2010 12:37 GMT
#11
On January 05 2010 21:06 konadora wrote:
Killer looks.. younger than his actual age I see.


yeah... i'm sorry to say, but i personally think killer and perfectman give off the looks of naive and sheltered 12-year olds trying to play peewee hockey too seriously

killer has been improving a bit lately i guess but... still >.<
ugh, i just cringe every time i see their expressions during games

overall it does not give oz a very good image, especially in conjunction with backho, hiya (who looks like a fish with his mouth agape during games) and ggaemo
jd used to give them a more serious image but now that he's gone all emo recently, things aren't boding well for oz
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
January 05 2010 13:46 GMT
#12
What happened to baby? He was playing in like every wemade lineup like 6 months ago
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
January 05 2010 13:51 GMT
#13
On January 05 2010 22:46 Ftrunkz wrote:
What happened to baby? He was playing in like every wemade lineup like 6 months ago


He's rocking the Dream League these days
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 05 2010 13:52 GMT
#14
On January 05 2010 22:46 Ftrunkz wrote:
What happened to baby? He was playing in like every wemade lineup like 6 months ago

Mind became decently good again. Baby has tons of time ahead of him. He's good, but not quite there yet.
God Bless
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6184 Posts
January 05 2010 15:34 GMT
#15
On January 05 2010 20:01 Zoler wrote:
I'm actually really tired! 12 am and I didn't sleep this night

only one thing to say.

Aphex Twin.
n_n
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
January 05 2010 15:43 GMT
#16
No mention of Baby? come on man!
Hi.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 05 2010 15:56 GMT
#17
On January 05 2010 21:19 Roffles wrote:
Flash's age isn't scary. What's scary is his win rate. 70% over so many games. Insane. The fact that he only has one major title (GOM Excluded) is insane.


Didn't JD have a winrate like that as well last season? Both are impressive
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
January 05 2010 17:48 GMT
#18
On January 06 2010 00:56 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2010 21:19 Roffles wrote:
Flash's age isn't scary. What's scary is his win rate. 70% over so many games. Insane. The fact that he only has one major title (GOM Excluded) is insane.


Didn't JD have a winrate like that as well last season? Both are impressive


Do you mean JD had a 70% win overall lifetime win rate during the last season ?

Because then the answer is no.
And all is illuminated.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
January 05 2010 18:59 GMT
#19
this is scary

+ Show Spoiler +
BOO!
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 05 2010 19:06 GMT
#20
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all
RIP Aaliyah
UGC4
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Peru532 Posts
January 05 2010 19:13 GMT
#21
what about baby?
#1 Movie fan~ he's got so much skill it oozes out of his skin in the form of acne. ~family comes first~
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 05 2010 19:31 GMT
#22
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all

my alarm just went off like crazy
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
January 05 2010 20:03 GMT
#23
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


lol
geegee1
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States618 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-05 20:52:30
January 05 2010 20:50 GMT
#24
On January 06 2010 05:03 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


lol


so you are telling me that all the zerg players he has played JUST suddenly lose their 3rd so fast? and that + Show Spoiler +
stork lost the ace match to a cut scv push?
really? and if bisu wasnt good at protoss with high apm he might not been good at all. if fantasy had not have oov and boxer he might not been good at all. if that all came true. just IF
pew pew
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
January 05 2010 20:52 GMT
#25
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


p.much agree with everything here. pisses me off flash is getting so much attention when he's just all gimmicks cant even sleep at night
☺ ☻
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 05 2010 20:56 GMT
#26
On January 06 2010 05:50 geegee1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 05:03 Athos wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


lol


so you are telling me that all the zerg players he has played JUST suddenly lose their 3rd so fast? and that + Show Spoiler +
stork lost the ace match to a cut scv push?
really? and if bisu wasnt good at protoss with high apm he might not been good at all. if fantasy had not have oov and boxer he might not been good at all. if that all came true. just IF


TvZ is an imbalanced match-up, so all you need is 800 APM and basic knowledge of terran units to win. I don't really understand your argument here
RIP Aaliyah
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
January 05 2010 20:56 GMT
#27
On January 06 2010 05:50 geegee1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 05:03 Athos wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


lol


so you are telling me that all the zerg players he has played JUST suddenly lose their 3rd so fast? and that + Show Spoiler +
stork lost the ace match to a cut scv push?
really? and if bisu wasnt good at protoss with high apm he might not been good at all. if fantasy had not have oov and boxer he might not been good at all. if that all came true. just IF

bwahahah
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
January 05 2010 21:00 GMT
#28
Holy 5h1T Flash
twitter: @terrancem
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 05 2010 21:03 GMT
#29
On January 06 2010 05:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2010 05:50 geegee1 wrote:
On January 06 2010 05:03 Athos wrote:
On January 06 2010 04:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
flash isn't good

he just turtles to win games. do you really think it's hard to wait in ur base till 200/200 then move out and kill stuff? if flash didn't use gay turtle strategies, he wouldn't be successful at all


lol


so you are telling me that all the zerg players he has played JUST suddenly lose their 3rd so fast? and that + Show Spoiler +
stork lost the ace match to a cut scv push?
really? and if bisu wasnt good at protoss with high apm he might not been good at all. if fantasy had not have oov and boxer he might not been good at all. if that all came true. just IF


TvZ is an imbalanced match-up, so all you need is 800 APM and basic knowledge of terran units to win. I don't really understand your argument here

Vessels: irradiate imba
Tanks: siege mode imba
Marines: stim dps imba
Medics: heal imba
Firebats: splash + stim imba
Vultures: mine + drone killing imba
Goliaths: anti-air range imba
Valkyries: anti-air splash imba
Command Center: scan + lift imba
Bunkers: repair imba
Normal
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#56
ZombieGrub149
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ZombieGrub149
ProTech90
StarCraft: Brood War
Shine 12
Counter-Strike
fl0m5124
pashabiceps1475
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu465
Other Games
summit1g7953
Grubby4065
Mlord756
shahzam560
uThermal440
B2W.Neo404
FrodaN394
Trikslyr369
mouzStarbuck254
C9.Mang0249
UpATreeSC65
Mew2King64
Tefel13
fpsfer 2
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream2956
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 5
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 55
• FirePhoenix5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2264
League of Legends
• TFBlade915
Other Games
• imaqtpie933
• WagamamaTV306
• Shiphtur94
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 54m
ByuN vs Shameless
PiGosaur Cup
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 11h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
GSL
4 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
5 days
[ Show More ]
Patches Events
5 days
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Proleague 2026-06-15
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.