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The Capacity to Hate

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Shiverfish
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada95 Posts
December 05 2009 05:29 GMT
#1
I was waiting at the bus stop last night. The same bus stop as referenced in several of my previous blog entries. It seems a lot of events happen that revolve around public transit systems. They are unique sources of inspiration, and a very powerful catalyst from which I’m sure many stories are made. It is a congregation of strangers, where people become familiar with each other while simultaneously avoiding interaction. Where people share the same journey, heading in a common direction, if not arriving at the same destination. It’s what people use to go about their daily schedules, getting on and off as the temporary connections are lost to the greater purpose of living their separate lives.

I had been waiting for thirty minutes in the cold night, with most of that time spent waiting with only one other expectant bus rider. As time passed, more people gathered until, when the bus finally came, there was a rather sizable crowd. I was surprised to see the bus quite full. I did bother to wrestle my way to the front of the line awaiting boarding, as I never expected the bus to actually reach capacity. It did, and just as my hand reached up into the bus to prepare to board, the doors closed, trapping my hand in the junction. It was not painful in any way, but my hand was firmly stuck to the side of the bus.

I glared at the bus driver, yet I did not say a word. Anger began to well up inside me. There was still room on the bus. Let me on. I looked back at the rear of the bus, and as always, there were assholes who failed to move back and make room for the people at the front of the bus. If the driver had any competence or sense of justice, he would take the measure to request the bus riders to move back. He didn’t say anything. I saw my fellow long-time-waiting companion near the front of the bus, as he barely made it on himself. He looked at me and I could sense that if he could have done anything to rectify my situation, he would. Most of the boarders had been at the stop for under five minutes.

The doors finally opened briefly, so that I could withdraw my hand, the closed shut again. I could not make my way on. I stood glued standing directly in front of the bus doors, glaring at the bus driver. I was waiting to see whether he would allow more people on after they had compressed somewhat to make some room at the front. My face was an angry, hateful challenge to the driver. He seemed to have some trouble in getting the bus to start moving. I suspect my hand jam caused some problem with the door closure sensors, prompting his difficulty.

When the bus finally began moving, I was incredulous, seething with fury. “FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU...” I was cursing. I could hardly believe the injustice. Assholes who didn’t bother to consider the plight of others. Assholes who could not understand basic bus etiquette. Assholes who blocked the space in the aisles, who insisted on standing instead of sitting down on empty seats. Assholes who could not move to the back of the bus. Asshole driver who did not even try to accommodate the couple of stranded people. I mentally projected the depths of my hatred towards them.

I briefly considered jumping in front of the bus to make my point. I was regretting not ripping out the door with my bare hands when they were still stuck in them. I would not be waiting another thirty minutes for the next bus, and blinded with rage, I ran after the bus. If I did decide to walk home, I would be taking the same route anyways. Now, the immediate bus path was a straight road ending with traffic lights, with a stop in the middle and one at the lights. The bus paused at the first stop, and had trouble starting up again. I smiled to myself, secretly hoping my hand of fate had caused this disruption again. I came close to catching the bus, but was still behind it when it took off again.

I could tell the lights up ahead would be turning red by the time the bus arrived. I continued sprinting down the road, and cheered when my observation turned out correct. Furthermore, several people were getting off the bus; I would mind if they were riders that had boarded at an earlier stop, but if they were part of the crowd at my stop, then FUCK THEM. I finally caught up to the bus as it sat waiting for the light. I walked up to the door and glared again at the asshole driver. Got room for me now? To my relief he opened the door and I boarded without a word.

Breathing heavily but quietly, I was still seething with resentment as I glanced around at the other passengers. I thought I could sense some surprise and bemusement from those who had perhaps seen me standing there, outside, just a few moments ago. I made eye contact with my long-time-waiting companion and threw him a big grin. Like I said, I wasn’t going to wait for the next bus.

I have very little tolerance for assholes, especially for those who fail to comprehend the basic principles of etiquette. This little imaginary exchange enters my mind every time I see someone standing by the bus rear door:
“Hey buddy have a seat.”
“No thanks, I’m fine standing here so others can sit.”
“TAKE A SEAT FUCKER. YOU’RE IN THE WAY.”
I am a very judgemental person. I can hate someone very deeply just from my first impressions. I visualize hurting them badly, and deriving enjoyment from their suffering. I do not know whether I am just a wannabe gangster affected by media caricatures of villainy or actually do harbour such dangerous cravings. I am the kind of person who stays under the radar, only to surprise everyone with an unexpected shock.

But I am not a violent person. I have enough discipline and self restraint to control my temper, perhaps too much so. I never show outbursts of anger, never go shouting at others to vent my rage. Instead I internalize all anger inside me, and it rematerializes into a much colder hate. Again, I question whether this is actually realistic or if I am merely deluded by this literary expression of emotion. But this is not easily answerable given the complexity of human emotion.

So here is a therapy, I suppose, that would release my stress...



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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 05 2009 05:32 GMT
#2
On December 05 2009 14:29 Shiverfish wrote:
I visualize hurting them badly, and deriving enjoyment from their suffering.


Kinda scary dude
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
December 05 2009 05:32 GMT
#3
This is exactly how I feel when I have shitty teammates in 3v3 BGH.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
December 05 2009 05:46 GMT
#4
..You have issues.
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
December 05 2009 05:47 GMT
#5
Luckily for me, the bus drivers in my city (and the passengers) are usually nice/caring/smart/active/annoyed/pissed off enough to make sure bus capacity is as efficient as possible.
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Fixed
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-05 05:50:24
December 05 2009 05:49 GMT
#6
Forgive me if this is not u. But are u the asshole who witnessed a cyclist getting hit intentionally in front of a bustop? And u didnt call 911, didnt bother to try and help the victim, and left the scene be4 police got there becuase u assumed someone else would stick up for the cyclist? and then cried about not being a hero?

Lesson 1. Buy a bike and ull never miss another bus.
Lesson 2. If at a bus stop first....stand in the front so u can get on first???
fanatacist likes men.....but mostly boys...and some anal toys. Also his ability to read and understand posts is on par with a slightly retarded meerkat.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 05 2009 05:50 GMT
#7
I think one of those stress balls would be good for you...
or smoke weed...
just chill
KTY
jello24
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada327 Posts
December 05 2009 06:36 GMT
#8
I don't know about your city, but here in my city of Vancouver, people LINE UP to board the bus. If there were only two of you at the bus stop at first, how did you not manage to stay ahead of the crowd? And you even had to wrestle your way to the front? How did that happen? You and your long-time companion let a crowd cut in front of your line?

I bussed my way through college and every single stop I've been at there's always a line to follow. I guess things work different in other parts of Canada.

Also, i wouldn't challenge bus drivers. Usually they're pissed off to begin with because of riders like you, and like any dull job they just don't give a damn whether you get on or not. Plus, if you so much as breathe on them, you can be sure to get charged with Assault.
just lurking around...
Always
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States376 Posts
December 05 2009 06:39 GMT
#9
this was actually a good read. I enjoyed it.

=)

glad you made it onto the bus dude.
"Do unto others 20% better than you would expect them to do unto you, to correct for subjective error." - Linus Pauling
-fj.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Samoa462 Posts
December 05 2009 06:40 GMT
#10
The thing about stress balls is that they never break, they never release. I need shit to BREAK when I'm pissed! I never understood them.
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
December 05 2009 06:53 GMT
#11
People suck hard. I think the same things but I not it's unreasonable to act on them.
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RaNgeD
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States733 Posts
December 05 2009 06:55 GMT
#12
On December 05 2009 15:40 -fj. wrote:
The thing about stress balls is that they never break, they never release. I need shit to BREAK when I'm pissed! I never understood them.


Honestly just spewed water everywhere upon reading that.
Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. 1 Corinthians 13:7
revolover
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada134 Posts
December 05 2009 07:00 GMT
#13
Interesting read.
Vharox
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States1037 Posts
December 05 2009 07:07 GMT
#14
Nice read
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
December 05 2009 07:09 GMT
#15
I am a very judgemental person. I can hate someone very deeply just from my first impressions.

I'm the same :/

I take the train everyday and the conductors that close the door right in front of someone's face piss me off so badly.

On the other hand, one time I got off the train and was walking very close and parallel to it, and the conductor thought I was going to enter the door so he reopened it for me. Hats off to guys like him.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
December 05 2009 07:41 GMT
#16
This happens all the time in Pittsburgh when I use to take the bus. People really are assholes and refuse to move further back when people are waiting to board. The bus drivers get tired of telling people to move back so they stop doing it hoping other passengers will do it. There was this one driver that saw that the entire half back of the bus was empty and people were refusing to move back. It was actually only one guy holding up the entire bus.

She didn't start moving and just stood there shaking her head, looking at people through the front mirror, waiting for someone to say something. Eventually somebody (me -_-; said something and people started moving back. FFS its common sense.

In another occasion I was boarding the bus and there was a lot of room in the back. People were still outside and it always surprises me how no one will say anything when this happens. I've yelled/asked loudly if people could move back from time to time and they listen (I use to have a fro hawk so they would look at me for three seconds and then move almost instantly, it was so awesome), but I also get tired of doing it myself and wait to see if someone else will say something. I agree on the part that its proper etiquette that should learned by people, but some people don't care or don't think for that matter.

Learn to laugh at the situation thou, its not something to infuriate yourself over. Public transportation should have its own reality TV show. It has some of the stupidest dip shits ever which make me wonder how they are able to function. But its better to laugh at them, getting upset will get you nowhere.

As far as your hand, you should of moved it.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
December 05 2009 08:22 GMT
#17
This blog couldn't have come at a better time for me. As a bus rider since I was in the 4th grade, I completely understand every ounce of your feelings. If I was in your situation, I probably would have screamed at the bus driver to let me on, and even then whether it would happen would still be a coin flip. Too many people tend to be assholes whenever they don't think it would come back around at them. Most of the time, they do it for no other reason than to feel better about themselves. I judge them pretty harshly too but it's not so much the person, but the pure selfishness and ignorance it breeds that I get pissed off at. I surprised you kept your cool the way you did. You should've at least said something imo.
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Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
December 05 2009 08:40 GMT
#18
In all seriousness- please get help. This is just scary, really really scary. Hope to god i never ride a bus with you
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canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
December 05 2009 08:40 GMT
#19
I can definitely see this happening to me... In fact, just today, I let everybody get onto the bus before me. I wound up having to stand. The nice thing about this time though, was that immediately, everybody who was standing went to the back, so when we came to the next stop, the bus filled right up and nobody was left behind. And yes, I too get very annoyed when some people are just so inconsiderate and selfish. This are two traits that i strive to never succumb to.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
December 05 2009 09:30 GMT
#20
You sound like a very unhappy person and a bit disturbing with all your inwardly directed anger. It's not healthy.

If you're upset with people then you should communicate with them what you want. Put yourself in other people's shoes. Maybe they don't notice. Maybe someone else on the bus is being an ass and not moving. Maybe the bus driver's daughter just got diagnosed with cancer and he's distracted.

You have no clue what other people are going through. Don't sit there and just emo, focusing your hatred and other creepy shit like that. Bang on the door and say "let me on!" Try to communicate with your fellow human beings!

If they don't let you, then you can fume. But for god's sake, stop with all this weird visualization and imagination. You have nothing to base it on. Just let the hate go. Focus on your goal, not on all your wretched feelings. Humans have all kinds of feelings, good and bad. It's up to you to choose which feelings to keep and which ones to dismiss as unworthy. Hate is an unworthy feeling.
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