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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:54:30
September 19 2009 22:34 GMT
#1


IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Halfpastnoob
Profile Joined June 2009
United States191 Posts
September 19 2009 22:55 GMT
#2
You are going to need a lot of money...hope you have a good time.
tl;dr
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:54:39
September 19 2009 23:09 GMT
#3
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
September 20 2009 00:29 GMT
#4
On September 20 2009 08:09 rushz0rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2009 07:55 Halfpastnoob wrote:
You are going to need a lot of money...hope you have a good time.


How much would you say? $5000?



1 000 000 +
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 20 2009 01:17 GMT
#5
Well, do you want to sleep in a tent (at a camping site ofc) or in youth hostels?
Using a tent would save you 10 - 15€ a night. At least for german camping sites / hostels.

I recently cycled 330 km in two days from Berlin to Usedom, the latter being a small holiday island. I dont know about your training, but for relaxed touring, I personally wouldnt want to make trips over 100km/day. Especially beacuase there aren't always good cycle paths and you'd have to travel using federal highways.

Having made some small excursions within a 200km radius, I've at all times had to ask for direction at some point and never been disappointed. Do not camp on your own outside of camping sites (can be forbitten and freaking expensive if you're caught); also doing so, you avoid being alone and thus fucked if you run into some "aggressive people".

A quick google maps "research" told me that from Vienna through Nuremberg via Berlin and Kiel, over Denmark to Sweden by ferry is gonna be like 2000 km. Thus its at least 20 days.

Based on an average of 15 km/h, you will spend like 7 h/day on your bike, sleeping 8h, using 2h for tent and hygene, leaving you 7h for eating and sightseeing. So, if you want to "see something", get to know the countryside, the nature, I would say you'll need at least a month.
At the moment, 1$ = 0.68€. Ergo your 1,2k are less that 850€. I'd say with 1000€ you should be on the safe side. Not including souveniers and whatnot, just living expenses. If you go camping of course. But I cannot give any information about prices in sweden or austria, havent been there for too long...

If you're already coming over, you may also consider giving finnland a try. A friend of mine just visited the south and was all enthusiastic. Such beautiful nature...!

Well, thats it for now, cant think of more at the moment, gotta get some sleep
Feel free to ask stuff. And... Be sure to tell me if you drop by in Berlin!

ps: sorry for jumping aroung so much
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
September 20 2009 03:20 GMT
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Viel Glück!

Nächste Sommer will ich nach Deustchland auch gehen.

Wenn du nicht so viel Geld ausbgeben will, sollst du bei eine Herberge bleiben.

Staying in a hostel shouldn't cost too much, but if you're really tight on money tenting could be even cheaper.

I don't think safety should be too much of an issue. If anything, make sure you don't leave stuff around, because you wouldn't be the only TLer that's gone to Europe and had their wallet/bag stolen, etc.

Good luck!
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
ero
Profile Joined April 2009
United States66 Posts
September 20 2009 04:01 GMT
#7
On September 20 2009 07:55 Halfpastnoob wrote:
You are going to need a lot of money...hope you have a good time.


I did 3 weeks in london and a bit around france. Spent less than $700, and that's including the $400 round trip plane ticket.

Stay with friends if you have them, check out couchsurfing.com, stay in hostels, Buy plane tickets in advance, use kayak.com if your flight originates from the US.

Most people have been brought up to believe that international travel is for the rich and that's simply not the case.
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:54:51
September 21 2009 01:15 GMT
#8
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-28 08:54:58
September 21 2009 01:19 GMT
#9
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 27 2009 21:32 GMT
#10
This is the austrian railway company:
http://www.oebb.at/en/index.jsp
You can use the train schedule to map out where you can go using trains and later on getting the times right (maybe try using the german version of the site for learning purposes ). There probably are more cities than one ever 50km, just being too small to get mapped.

You can travel for a couple of days by train trough austria using this ticket and only paying an initial fare.
http://www.oebb.at/pv/en/Travel_within_Europe/Eurail_Austria_Pass/index.jsp

Unfortunately, I dont know any respective ticket for germany. You prolly should consider buying an InterRail ticket, giving you access to specific trains all over europe (http://www.interrailers.net/english/). Ever since its getting privatized, the german railway company (Deutsche Bahn) bleeds out their customers and fucks up the system... Well, whatever. From my point of view, its just too expensive just to get from south to north. Not to think about travelling for a longer period of time. So, if you decide on giving germany a try, there are several types of ticket to buy. If you're interested, in a couple of days, I can provide some links or explain anyway.

Do you plan on crossing the austrian-german border through the alps by bike?
I'd propose bus or train but have never taken anything but the former...
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The Raurosaur
Profile Joined April 2009
198 Posts
September 28 2009 02:26 GMT
#11
Are you going to buy a bike when you get there, are are you going to take one with you? An alternative plan is to hitch-hike, which is perfectly safe* if a little erratic (it makes it harder to plan hostels and so on).

Will this be your first time traveling alone? Do you have any friends you could go with? That may make it both safer and more enjoyable.

* Granted, there are risks, but nowhere near what most people believe. You're probably safer hitch-hiking than you would be on a bike on the open road.
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