• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:34
CEST 20:34
KST 03:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202531Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation Classic: "Serral is Like Hitting a Brick Wall" Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings EWC 2025 - Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 685 users

What to do in zvt against terran mech?

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
w3jjjj
Profile Joined April 2007
United States760 Posts
May 12 2007 15:04 GMT
#1
I used to go pure mutas, but i have problems stoping terran taking the natural, and 2 base terran pumps way too many goliath...what's an alternative strategy against mech?
Chuck Norris can salvage his opponent's structures.
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
May 12 2007 15:08 GMT
#2
There is no alternative.
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
May 12 2007 15:18 GMT
#3
Muta/ling

If you're just pumping mutas you should have plenty of minerals for like 30 lings

You could also tech to ultra/ling because goliaths are very weak vs ultras.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
May 12 2007 15:19 GMT
#4
try delaying with mutaling as usual until you can get defilers, then rape with plague or swarm/whatever
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
intelinside
Profile Joined February 2007
United States982 Posts
May 12 2007 15:55 GMT
#5
mutalings should beat pure gols. but then again i dont really know bc im not zerg player but from what i see, mutalings beats gols
hihihihihi
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-12 17:18:11
May 12 2007 16:58 GMT
#6
Just outexpo him while going muta/ling or hydra/muta. If hes pure golie, then make more hydra. If hes mixing tanks, then mix mutas.
Moderator<:3-/-<
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
May 12 2007 17:01 GMT
#7
take the map. its hard for the terran to stop you from expoing cuz his mech army isn't very mobile, and if he is moving out with a sizable force you can threaten to counter his main with a ton of mutas.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 12 2007 17:11 GMT
#8
Harass him! :D and do what ^ he says.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
MIStrZZZ
Profile Joined May 2006
Poland62 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-12 18:42:54
May 12 2007 18:42 GMT
#9
gols are chobo cuz not mobile at all - zerg has to play more drones, bigger mass without sunkens and lurkers
I think ling 3/3 + adrenal + eventually ultras would pwnage those gols, but hidras 3/3 arent bad too
I am the only Winner
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
May 12 2007 19:31 GMT
#10
muta and sunkens

if he moves out counter his main. you should be able to take more expos than him. dont fight his army without sunk support.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
May 12 2007 20:43 GMT
#11
mutaling for sure...golies dont do shit against mutas...so you got the mutas taking all the damage, while you have lings finishing the golies
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
May 12 2007 22:25 GMT
#12
Muta/ling and decent flanking > goliaths. You will have to change your harassment technique though, as goliaths have too great a range for picking off units to be effective. Moving in with 30+ muta's when he moves out to kill expoes is what you should do.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-12 22:42:46
May 12 2007 22:32 GMT
#13
Muta/ling, expand as often as you can (be very greedy, you need MUCH gas), and be aggressive. Don't let the goliaths force you into defensive mode, just try to harass him. With a mass of mutas (like 24+) you can destroy half of his base very fast while his goliaths are somewhere else. If you have many expansions, you can let the goliaths kill one of them while you rape his main/factories (which hits him much harder).
And try to tech to defilers soon, and get plague (don't bother with swarm, unless you decided to get more lings/hydras/lurkers/ultras).
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-12 22:49:08
May 12 2007 22:48 GMT
#14
You also need to take a third gas at the very least. And you need to guerilla warfare it quite a bit. Burrow is also great against goliaths though if you have a large amount of lings AND mutas it isn't really necessary. But I think its cost effective so long as you place them in a place where he won't scan.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
May 12 2007 22:48 GMT
#15
Be wary of vultures. If the T already has numerous factories up, chances are he'll throw little blobs of vultures at you to go expo harassing and/or drop spider mines freakin' everywhere.

As stated by just about everyone, go muta/ling. Don't really bother with lurkers because gols can really more or less just lol all over them.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 13 2007 00:20 GMT
#16
If you fail to take advantage with your ling/muta and it's about even, taking islands is very powerful becouse you can move your entire army there very fast for defence, making your islands hard to attack.

Swarm/plauge is very awsome, but remember that a good mech user will add m&mf if he scans defilers or get tank heavy. They should also have at least 3 science vessels making mutas worse becouse of irraditate.

Zerglings are rather bad after a certain point, when he's to big basically, rely more on sunkens and expos to waste his time walking around the map and making him open for mutalisk harass/backdoor.

Be very drone heavy. Remember to upgrade your mutas, having 1-1 vs 0-0 is a huge diffrence, don't be the guy with 0-0.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
May 13 2007 00:39 GMT
#17
idk if its been said but

early/mid=mutaling
later=muta/hydra/DEFILER
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 13 2007 00:54 GMT
#18
How does ling/hydra fare vs Goli?
My guess is it would do ok?
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20019 Posts
May 13 2007 00:58 GMT
#19
On May 13 2007 09:54 SuperJongMan wrote:
How does ling/hydra fare vs Goli?
My guess is it would do ok?


bad
unless defiler
then good
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
May 13 2007 01:00 GMT
#20
I'd rather go pure hydra than ling/hydra as ling/hydra will allow the goliaths in the back to rape the lings while you can't yet touch them. Ling/hydra effectively allows every goliath to attack, and since lings vs gols only work if the gols are distracted (ie; not shooting at the lings), you will probably find your lings to not be very effective.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't Park Yeong Min - CJ fighting!
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
18:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Cham vs Bunny
ByuN vs TriGGeR
SHIN vs Krystianer
ShoWTimE vs Spirit
IndyStarCraft 156
SteadfastSC145
Liquipedia
Online Event
16:00
Sunny Lake Cup #1
Wayne vs ArT
Strange vs Nicoract
Shameless vs GgMaChine
YoungYakov vs MilkiCow
3DClanTV 89
MindelVK51
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 201
IndyStarCraft 156
SteadfastSC 145
BRAT_OK 86
MindelVK 51
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 384
BeSt 307
TY 117
Shine 88
Movie 45
Aegong 36
soO 32
Bale 10
ggaemo 1
GuemChi 0
Stormgate
RushiSC45
Dota 2
syndereN1310
capcasts305
Counter-Strike
Foxcn607
flusha376
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu194
XaKoH 151
Other Games
gofns6193
tarik_tv5648
Gorgc3530
fl0m2349
qojqva1272
Beastyqt780
Fuzer 175
Hui .145
oskar100
QueenE76
Trikslyr75
TKL 71
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 31
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta178
• Reevou 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix19
• 80smullet 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV852
League of Legends
• Nemesis3388
• Jankos1605
Other Games
• imaqtpie993
• Scarra397
• Shiphtur197
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
21h 27m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
1d 8h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 15h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 17h
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 21h
Online Event
1d 23h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
Roobet Cup 2025
Yuqilin POB S2
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.