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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 18 2013 17:41 Denar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:36 Fionn wrote:On April 18 2013 17:32 bgx wrote:On April 18 2013 17:23 Fionn wrote:
Fans in sports like winners and legacies.
Flash wins a lot and has the hype of being a God, so people in the SC2 community have latched onto him. In BW, I'm pretty sure Jaedong and Bisu had bigger fan bases. Flash just has more fans in SC2 because people who didn't follow BW saw all the memes, hype, and want to root for a dude who is known as God of RTS. Yes even if im not really that veteran here, from what i saw there was definitely less God Chanting in BW lrs than it is now ^^ Flash was still super popular in BW and treated like a special guy, but he has a larger fanbase in SC2 over guys like Bisu and Jaedong because from the first time he started playing SC2, casters were hyping him up and people were doing all they could do to find VOD's of the guy. But he's always been treated like a God since his late run of titles. Watch his final between him and Effort. Effort gets a shitty entrance, but Flash gets to come out of a plane and is treated like Jesus Christ. There is no room for every BW story to get brought to the SC2 audience. I'd say Flash and Jaedong have been transmitted without trouble, I would have thought that the Jangbi/Fantasy storyline would also continue on SC2, but that doesn't seem to happen yet. And for Bisu, not playing any match for so long that people were wondering if he retired didn't help at all I guess.
JangBi vs Fantasy will become a story once they become championship contenders. Their last two OSLs made me hope for the next great rivalry so hopefully it does translate into SC2
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Australia54784 Posts
On April 18 2013 17:43 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:41 Denar wrote:On April 18 2013 17:36 Fionn wrote:On April 18 2013 17:32 bgx wrote:On April 18 2013 17:23 Fionn wrote:
Fans in sports like winners and legacies.
Flash wins a lot and has the hype of being a God, so people in the SC2 community have latched onto him. In BW, I'm pretty sure Jaedong and Bisu had bigger fan bases. Flash just has more fans in SC2 because people who didn't follow BW saw all the memes, hype, and want to root for a dude who is known as God of RTS. Yes even if im not really that veteran here, from what i saw there was definitely less God Chanting in BW lrs than it is now ^^ Flash was still super popular in BW and treated like a special guy, but he has a larger fanbase in SC2 over guys like Bisu and Jaedong because from the first time he started playing SC2, casters were hyping him up and people were doing all they could do to find VOD's of the guy. But he's always been treated like a God since his late run of titles. Watch his final between him and Effort. Effort gets a shitty entrance, but Flash gets to come out of a plane and is treated like Jesus Christ. There is no room for every BW story to get brought to the SC2 audience. I'd say Flash and Jaedong have been transmitted without trouble, I would have thought that the Jangbi/Fantasy storyline would also continue on SC2, but that doesn't seem to happen yet. And for Bisu, not playing any match for so long that people were wondering if he retired didn't help at all I guess. JangBi vs Fantasy will become a story once they become championship contenders. Their last two OSLs made me hope for the next great rivalry so hopefully it does translate into SC2
they might meet in R1 code a
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On April 18 2013 17:36 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:33 Schelim wrote:On April 18 2013 17:31 FuRong wrote:On April 18 2013 17:16 Schelim wrote:
he's really good mechanically, but he has probably the boringest style i've ever seen out of a Korean terran player and plays very predictable (and gets punished for it). i have not been able to detect any personality either. keep in mind i didn't follow BW though. Sounds suspiciously like another "boring" Terran who won four GSL titles. what? MVP has a predictable playstyle? do you even watch this game? A lot of people considered his games boring (exceptions being vs TOP on Daybreak and that Ghost Snipe nerf game) But it was probably because none of the interesting builds worked against the game genie
well, what's boring or not is obviously opinion. i've always disagreed heavily with people saying MVP's play is/was boring, but Alive is one of my favorite terrans to watch so what do i know. but FuRong implied MVP's playstyle was predictable, which is just objectively wrong. the amount of builds he would throw out at seemingly random times - especially at his peak - was one of his greatest strengths.
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On April 18 2013 17:44 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:43 lichter wrote:On April 18 2013 17:41 Denar wrote:On April 18 2013 17:36 Fionn wrote:On April 18 2013 17:32 bgx wrote:On April 18 2013 17:23 Fionn wrote:
Fans in sports like winners and legacies.
Flash wins a lot and has the hype of being a God, so people in the SC2 community have latched onto him. In BW, I'm pretty sure Jaedong and Bisu had bigger fan bases. Flash just has more fans in SC2 because people who didn't follow BW saw all the memes, hype, and want to root for a dude who is known as God of RTS. Yes even if im not really that veteran here, from what i saw there was definitely less God Chanting in BW lrs than it is now ^^ Flash was still super popular in BW and treated like a special guy, but he has a larger fanbase in SC2 over guys like Bisu and Jaedong because from the first time he started playing SC2, casters were hyping him up and people were doing all they could do to find VOD's of the guy. But he's always been treated like a God since his late run of titles. Watch his final between him and Effort. Effort gets a shitty entrance, but Flash gets to come out of a plane and is treated like Jesus Christ. There is no room for every BW story to get brought to the SC2 audience. I'd say Flash and Jaedong have been transmitted without trouble, I would have thought that the Jangbi/Fantasy storyline would also continue on SC2, but that doesn't seem to happen yet. And for Bisu, not playing any match for so long that people were wondering if he retired didn't help at all I guess. JangBi vs Fantasy will become a story once they become championship contenders. Their last two OSLs made me hope for the next great rivalry so hopefully it does translate into SC2 they might meet in R1 code a
Oh god, that would be awesome... But also means one of them would go out back to Code B right away
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Austria24422 Posts
I do hope that Jangbi vs Fantasy will happen in SC2. But well, I also hoped that HerO vs Puma would last longer.
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On April 18 2013 17:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I do hope that Jangbi vs Fantasy will happen in SC2. But well, I also hoped that HerO vs Puma would last longer.
Did Puma state he was retiring, or is there some hope left ?
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Australia54784 Posts
mods, is there some way to link the WCS_OSL stream to the thread as well? i feel bad for doa/monte, they're both good casters who deserve more exposure
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On April 18 2013 17:44 Schelim wrote:
well, what's boring or not is obviously opinion. i've always disagreed heavily with people saying MVP's play is/was boring, but Alive is one of my favorite terrans to watch so what do i know. but FuRong implied MVP's playstyle was predictable, which is just objectively wrong. the amount of builds he would throw out at seemingly random times - especially at his peak - was one of his greatest strengths.
That's why I put it in air quotes...I don't find MVP's style boring or predictable at all. I was trying to imply that people often criticise successful players for being "boring" or "playing too standard" just because they don't all-in or play flashy (no pun intended) all the time. Flash received that kind of criticism when he was crushing in BW, and MVP did too in SC2.
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On April 18 2013 17:43 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:41 Denar wrote:On April 18 2013 17:36 Fionn wrote:On April 18 2013 17:32 bgx wrote:On April 18 2013 17:23 Fionn wrote:
Fans in sports like winners and legacies.
Flash wins a lot and has the hype of being a God, so people in the SC2 community have latched onto him. In BW, I'm pretty sure Jaedong and Bisu had bigger fan bases. Flash just has more fans in SC2 because people who didn't follow BW saw all the memes, hype, and want to root for a dude who is known as God of RTS. Yes even if im not really that veteran here, from what i saw there was definitely less God Chanting in BW lrs than it is now ^^ Flash was still super popular in BW and treated like a special guy, but he has a larger fanbase in SC2 over guys like Bisu and Jaedong because from the first time he started playing SC2, casters were hyping him up and people were doing all they could do to find VOD's of the guy. But he's always been treated like a God since his late run of titles. Watch his final between him and Effort. Effort gets a shitty entrance, but Flash gets to come out of a plane and is treated like Jesus Christ. There is no room for every BW story to get brought to the SC2 audience. I'd say Flash and Jaedong have been transmitted without trouble, I would have thought that the Jangbi/Fantasy storyline would also continue on SC2, but that doesn't seem to happen yet. And for Bisu, not playing any match for so long that people were wondering if he retired didn't help at all I guess. JangBi vs Fantasy will become a story once they become championship contenders. Their last two OSLs made me hope for the next great rivalry so hopefully it does translate into SC2
Yup Jangbi winning Jin Air was a final reason why i finally decided to put KHAN icon. I i will never take it off.
His whole run (elimination into lucky wildcard group into last chance win into epic last game in finals with carriers, almost like staged).
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United States97277 Posts
On April 18 2013 17:49 Denar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I do hope that Jangbi vs Fantasy will happen in SC2. But well, I also hoped that HerO vs Puma would last longer. Did Puma state he was retiring, or is there some hope left ?
He never formally retired as far as I know, but he did not play in the code A qualifiers from what I saw
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Vatican City State431 Posts
Flash just needs to scout this time and build 1 or 2 tanks.
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On April 18 2013 17:49 Denar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I do hope that Jangbi vs Fantasy will happen in SC2. But well, I also hoped that HerO vs Puma would last longer. Did Puma state he was retiring, or is there some hope left ?
I don't think PuMa has said anything, but he's not participated in qualifiers has he? He was notably absent from WCS Korea qualifiers, but might be he will try for WCS NA. If he doesn't participate there, then things are looking a bit like retirement.
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On April 18 2013 17:51 FuRong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2013 17:44 Schelim wrote:
well, what's boring or not is obviously opinion. i've always disagreed heavily with people saying MVP's play is/was boring, but Alive is one of my favorite terrans to watch so what do i know. but FuRong implied MVP's playstyle was predictable, which is just objectively wrong. the amount of builds he would throw out at seemingly random times - especially at his peak - was one of his greatest strengths. That's why I put it in air quotes...I don't find MVP's style boring or predictable at all. I was trying to imply that people often criticise successful players for being "boring" or "playing too standard" just because they don't all-in or play flashy (no pun intended) all the time. Flash received that kind of criticism when he was crushing in BW, and MVP did too in SC2.
With all due respect but there was element of repeatency in Flash play, but what made Flash genius was how he played that part perfetcly in personal leagues and finals(statistically as he failed few times here and there). He abused the fact of predictabilty to be unpredictable (sounds fishy :D). Just watch all his opponents heads crack trying to decipher Flash play. To the point it was annoying (when you were fan of Flash opponent).
Sometimes i just wished both players played without opening lottery, but then i would have to abandon what made starcraft, starcraft.
Ergo Flash was a master gamer and a master poker-player.
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Morning, LR thread, how are you doing?
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On April 18 2013 17:57 Heartland wrote:
Morning, LR thread, how are you doing?
Not much going on atm
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Come on Mr Flash, nice TvZ from you please :D
God dammit Kpop...why u so nice to look at 0.O
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