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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 10:49:42
November 21 2011 10:46 GMT
#141
I just wanted to state that we could use Forge Claims on Aragon, and force a PU on them. They obviously have low Legitimacy, being Usurpers and all that stuff. We are Sicilians, we should take care of family business first before doing anything else. Also those claims are not really forged, they are actually quite real. After all, we ARE the d'Aragó Dynasty. If we get France to support us in that war, it should be a steamroll, and even if not, we should be able to beat them easily.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
November 21 2011 14:49 GMT
#142
I am here, i will start playing soon. Seems that my previous post got lost somewhere.
Pathetic Greta hater.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 20:05:24
November 21 2011 15:56 GMT
#143
No, it was there, i noticed it.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=284324&currentpage=7#138

Edit: We need more conversation here, i am bored.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
November 21 2011 23:03 GMT
#144
I have finished, i will post my report after i return from university tommorow (around 17-18 CET).


Pathetic Greta hater.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 21 2011 23:34 GMT
#145
Mission: Trade Empire

Obtain Liguria, Venecia, Lubeck and Alexandria.

Reward: Awesomeness.
11 years and counting- TL #680
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 22 2011 01:00 GMT
#146
Don't forget Novgorod! That sounds like a fun game.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
November 22 2011 02:54 GMT
#147
Well, I intentionally left out Novgorod, since it is so hard to reach, and the Navy would be completely useless for that war. Whereas the rest might actually be doable.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 09:17:57
November 22 2011 08:00 GMT
#148
The rest should actually be pretty easy?
Genua/Liguria is allways pretty minor.
Venecia allways gest in land wars with Austria, all you need to do is kill it's navy and land on venice/blockade it.
The Hansa ist he "hardest" one... And still starts of as a 2 province minor... The only problem here is that it is at quite far away and in the HRE.

Actually thats the only probelm with all of them, they are in the HRE...
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
November 22 2011 09:16 GMT
#149
omg this is awesome count me in!
UF fight!
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:04:39
November 22 2011 15:36 GMT
#150
I inagurated on 12 June 1492 intresting times to say the least.

I was given a country with a lot of political power, lot of vassals and skyrocking inflation (~10), i had multiple options, as a new national idea was to be available soon. I could turn our little country colonial power (QFNW), into Naval Power (PG) further stregnhten our economical power (mutiple options) or choose something completly different. Being Monty Python fan i had realy no option. Something completly different it is.

"Church attandence duty" nicely fit my style of play (+5% Papal influance =more cardinals =less infamy and of course -33% stabilty cost (who needs casus belli?). Also i concluded- anyone that will come after me will have much easier time adjusting country to his style of play (easier to change NI and forms of governemnt and such).


What should i do now? Where to go, where to expand?
I noticed France has a lot of land near Ottomans, also nice 16 army stack there, quick look at automaticly call allies button and a smile on my face: probability of France joining the War =Very Likely. Let us go to WAR then! Holy War it is in the name of God!
It turned to be pretty epic war with all of our vassals and France joing the war on our side, and Marroco, Songhai Yemen and Swahili on Ottomans side. During the war i got not so pleasant surprise, An Heir falls ill event. For sure posioned by treacherous heathens! Poor 3-7-3 Maria i could only Pray for her life! Thankfully God gives Us fast another heir 7-5-7 Pietro is truly bleesed and destined for glory! But heathens strikes again!! (Another heir falls ill event). This time God saves us from misery (by the hands of the trained mdeicus that is). War ends with our victory, we gain Larrisa ~125 ducats, and Ottomans ends Vassalization of some minor i dont recall.

I proceed to think about another target when i hear this news!

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We inherited Venice, great! But look closely, whats behind it? Thats right Regency Council. Out great monarch choose to die prematurly, and now i am toasted! Pietro is 0 years old, and i have a ragency council! Damn! Tough luck.

With no possibility of starting new war i decided to focus on economy and also on creating oportunities to join war of my allies.
In terms of economy:
I expanded the beurocracy.
Formalized scales wages and measures.
Declared Statute of Monopolies
Builded a lot of ports, constables, markets and armories, i decided to skip churches since we are still relativly small (but it is defiently on the list to do).
Also i converted all our old provinces to one true faith!
And finaly lowered iflantion to 6.8.

In terms of war: i joined a France-Aragon war on Frances side, but this war ended before i was able to force anything meaningful on Aragon. I get rid of Timurids agression twice. Somwhere in the midsts of long peace France broke their aliance with us (without any action from my side). Looking around i decided to hook up with England and helped them with their expansion in Scandinavia, also during my whole reign i often helped Mamluks (our vassals) get rid of rebels-strong vassal is better then the weak one yes?

Finaly Pietro came of age! I waited till Engalnd finish their war with Norway and striked at Ottomans (who were at the time engaged in war with Timurids, they were winning but who cares...) I nuked Asia minor with spies (support rebels), blocked Bosphor straits with our Navy and proceed to beat the forces that Ottomans left in Europe. I ended that war prematurly because i thought my time is up, but nevertheless i was able to gain rich provinces of Kozani, Macedonia and Nis. Also some time before that war Knight rebels libarted Rhodos from Ottomans, hmm not for long, No casus Belli? (who cares). I took Rhodos without any resistance.

At the end of my rule thats the situation:
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So we gained Rhodos, Larrisa, Nis, Macedonia and Venice. Gained a lot of tech and infrastructure. Exchanged France sfriendship for Englands. Also i made Royal marrige with almost anyone in Europe (to combat ridiculsly low legitimacy) (and even Karaman lol). We didnt lose any Vassals, i lowered inflation to 6.8 and also introduced a lot of magistrate heavy policies. Additionaly i expaneded heavily our trade influnce (which was pretty nonexistant outside of Athens when i began), it looks like that now:

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As to political situation in Europe:
France is at war with Austria, its hard to say what will come of this, but i doubt Austria can do any serious damage, at very best they will take some provinces that France has in Balkans. England is pretty strong, controls whole Britsh Isles and Ireland and also big chunk of Scandinavia.
Aragon seems pretty solid, they got a lot of land from Castille and in Northern Africa, Castille on the other hand is eating Marroco and Algiers, they also have land in Egypt and Middleeast.Bohemia is huge but i have no doubts they will implode.
TO has formed Prussia, its hard to say what will come of that, Hansa seems pretty solid, if they mange to take Sund from England they trade income will be super sick and they might become dengerous.

As to our strategy i recommend eating up European parts of Ottomans, and buliding churches. Then we should enlarge our land and navy forces, and perhaps eat Asian parts of Ottmans while looking at oportunities in Europe.
QFTW is also an option (we have 2 coastal COT now: Venice, and Athens, we can always grab third in Alexnadria).
Pathetic Greta hater.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 15:50:23
November 22 2011 15:47 GMT
#151
Could you please upload your safegame?

Next in Line is Velr, please claim your spot.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 15:53:54
November 22 2011 15:53 GMT
#152
Maim, burn, kill!
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 16:05:18
November 22 2011 15:54 GMT
#153
I am doing it right now, should be up soon! Also You are damn fast!

Save file:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r7ji8b
Pathetic Greta hater.
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
November 22 2011 16:15 GMT
#154
Wow our first regency after 70 years of godly kings. Tough luck, but at least we got Venice from it. I shudder to think what Velr what do what all these ducats.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
November 22 2011 16:15 GMT
#155
On November 23 2011 00:53 Velr wrote:
Maim, burn, kill!


Just make sure to always remember Maxim 1:

Pillage, THEN burn.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 22 2011 17:22 GMT
#156
burn the women, maim the field, kill the house
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 22 2011 18:10 GMT
#157
oh man i can't wait to see how badly i can fuck up yous guys empire
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10991 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 22:51:38
November 22 2011 19:04 GMT
#158
I'm actually allready finished

http://www.sendspace.com/file/giwhb2

Only thing is.. I failed in the screenshot department and the 3 i made (after from the autosaves) i don't find -.-.


Will write some about my game a little later, need to do something diffrent now


Sooo:

As i started everything looked fine:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/189/2011112200001.jpg/

The Minor powers in our neighborhood were our Vassals and the Ottomans had a fresh Peacetreaty with us... (BORING).
Our research was heavily focused on Land which I switched to 50/50 gov/land after reaching "free shooter infantry".
Our Advisors were terribly weak (8 stars combined and our cultural tradition was in the 20ies ), thats were most my magistrates went (+some churches/constables).

But as for actually playing:
5 boring years passed in which i amassed some money and made the trade rolling (and as turdburgler notes later, did not stop to amass because... my treasury slider was greyed out and i actually couldn't do anything about it :p) and set everything up for the time to strike (took "national conscripts"-Idea).
I sent our single spy (+0 spies/year) to spawn patriots in Achaea which was an Austrian province held by the Frenchies, the rebells were succesful and the province defected to Epirus (our Vassal). I also spent our prestige into expanding our influence:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/2011112200003.jpg/

WAR!
So, i declared war on the Ottomans and blockaded them out of Europe. They were fighting the Timurids in what seemed to be an even fight (from what we could see) and they made quite some progress towards the east). Thanks to this I did not have to fight a single big Ottoman army to conquer their european provinces and a little later most of their eastern-asian provinces, the Timurids slowly killed their big stacks and after ~10 years i owned most of the Ottoman provinces (the others were owned by timurids) and got the peacetreaty i wanted (annexed: Edirne, Burgas, Bursa and Bithynia).

In the ~3 years of peace i got left in my rule i Diplo-Annexed the Papal State (because i could!) and the Ottomans moved their capital away from Thrace... Due to France being pretty active in that region (they took nearly everything european left of the ottomans) I decied to break the peace treaty to make sure that we get Thrace for ourselfs after such a long war was just out of the question . Sadly this also ended our fresh military alliance with France :/.

I left the game in the middle of this war, sitting all over the Ottomans... Waiting to get MOAR LAND .

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/2011112200004.jpg/





Sorry for this kinda bad writeup .
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12088 Posts
November 22 2011 19:46 GMT
#159
Next in Line is Turdburgler, please claim your spot.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 20:05:59
November 22 2011 19:49 GMT
#160
time to kick ass and chew bubblegum

first impressions, we have 2800 gold and we are still minting ?!?! : D wth guys

my first moves before unpausing the game were. embracing all relgious decisions available. with church attendance day 5% stab cost and 1% intollerance are acceptable. more and better missionaries is a big deal while invading into mulsim countries. the whole team seems set on staying catholic for the infamy help, so with that mind helping conversions is a big prio.

i stopped all minting due to our insane wealth and maxed investments into stab. the quicker we recover from the -2 stab i started with the sooner our tax income recovers, being low stab is always unacceptable.

i started an embassy in burgas, i plan to let the ottomans keep silestra as it will allow the embassy to work but the province will be useless to them, so it can be taken over and over to increase war scores against them. increasing our border size against countries that have no miltary chance against us always causes more border based events to gain cores etc.

i started 2 universities back in our home lands in italy, the free magistrate effect is a long term investment that helps you keep your empire up to date when it gets larger.

i sacked our army morale advisor and changed him for a 3star compete chance dood. income is the key to the future!
assuming things dont go tits up in the next 30 seconds i shouldnt need to edit this post too much :D

i ended the war with ottomans, revoking cores (ocd) and taking only thrace for the reason mentioned above, once i save syria from the timurids all will be peaceful!

my main goals are to lower inflation by as much as possible, leave my turn with ~0 infamy and no wars on going. hopefully i can leave this place more stable than when i started
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