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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 22 2014 17:50 GMT
#81
On February 23 2014 02:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
That's what MSC means for Protoss in HotS.
- Use timewarps and other stuff? Be ahead forever.
- Don't use it? Be behind forever.

And nothing average.


Even without MSC he was ahead after the first push. He could have killed the hatch and went back home.
But he decided to go all the way to the natural and Vortix 2-2 finished and ultras popped out.

So MSC wouldn't make any difference at that time except he could probably recall without losing units but if player is good enough to know when he is overextending (and someone who is in WCS premier should) it really isn't an issue anyway.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 17:52:51
February 22 2014 17:52 GMT
#82
On February 23 2014 02:50 Qwerty85 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
That's what MSC means for Protoss in HotS.
- Use timewarps and other stuff? Be ahead forever.
- Don't use it? Be behind forever.

And nothing average.


Even without MSC he was ahead after the first push. He could have killed the hatch and went back home.
But he decided to go all the way to the natural and Vortix 2-2 finished and ultras popped out.

So MSC wouldn't make any difference at that time except he could probably recall without losing units but if player is good enough to know when he is overextending (and someone who is in WCS premier should) it really isn't an issue anyway.


He could end game right there if he did use timewarps.
Like it usually happen in those situations when Zerg is transitioning in middle of the fight.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 17:53 GMT
#83
On February 23 2014 02:48 The_Templar wrote:
WCS EU Premier: RO16

(Z)VortiX vs (P)Lilbow
1-1


Map: Heavy Rain


VortiX spawns in the bottom
Lilbow spawns in the top

2:00
Gateway followed by two assimilators.
Vortix going spawning pool first.
Pylon block on Vortix's natural.
Pylon completes.
Cybernetics core for Lilbow.

3:00
Four zerglings going to kill the pylon.
Two pylons at the natural of Lilbow already.
Stalker in production.
Vortix expanding.

4:00
Mothership core finishing and moving out.
Four zerglings pressuring but Lilbow forces it away and goes for his own pressure.
Lilbow expanding as well, already kills an overlord.

5:00
Second stalker moving out.
Sentry for Lilbow.
Vortix pumping drones, has a spine crawler in his natural.
Stalkers fail to get into the main.
Robotics facility for Lilbow.
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Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 22 2014 17:55 GMT
#84
On February 23 2014 02:52 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:50 Qwerty85 wrote:
On February 23 2014 02:47 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
That's what MSC means for Protoss in HotS.
- Use timewarps and other stuff? Be ahead forever.
- Don't use it? Be behind forever.

And nothing average.


Even without MSC he was ahead after the first push. He could have killed the hatch and went back home.
But he decided to go all the way to the natural and Vortix 2-2 finished and ultras popped out.

So MSC wouldn't make any difference at that time except he could probably recall without losing units but if player is good enough to know when he is overextending (and someone who is in WCS premier should) it really isn't an issue anyway.


He could end game right there if he did use timewarps.
Like it usually happen in those situations when Zerg is transitioning in middle of the fight.


I dont know much about PvZ but I think that even with time warps, the best he could do is kill that hatch. But Vortix hive tech was close enough so I dont think Lilbow would win straight up with time warps.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 17:56:51
February 22 2014 17:55 GMT
#85
Here comes the soul train!

Or not?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 17:56 GMT
#86
On February 23 2014 02:53 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:48 The_Templar wrote:
WCS EU Premier: RO16

(Z)VortiX vs (P)Lilbow
1-1


Map: Heavy Rain


VortiX spawns in the bottom
Lilbow spawns in the top

2:00
Gateway followed by two assimilators.
Vortix going spawning pool first.
Pylon block on Vortix's natural.
Pylon completes.
Cybernetics core for Lilbow.

3:00
Four zerglings going to kill the pylon.
Two pylons at the natural of Lilbow already.
Stalker in production.
Vortix expanding.

4:00
Mothership core finishing and moving out.
Four zerglings pressuring but Lilbow forces it away and goes for his own pressure.
Lilbow expanding as well, already kills an overlord.

5:00
Second stalker moving out.
Sentry for Lilbow.
Vortix pumping drones, has a spine crawler in his natural.
Stalkers fail to get into the main.
Robotics facility for Lilbow.

6:00 (Z)VortiX 44 vs (P)Lilbow 39
Roach Warren, lair, and an evolution chamber for Vortix.
A second gateway on the way for Lilbow.
Overlord suicide in Lilbow's main.

7:00 (Z)VortiX 51 vs (P)Lilbow 49
Immortal production, as well as sentries.
+1 ranged attack for Vortix.
Vortix gets roach speed.
A third assimilator on the way for Lilbow.

8:00 (Z)VortiX 60 vs (P)Lilbow 65
Lilbow going up to 5 gateways.
Vortix getting his third base.
Lilbow now going up to seven gateways.
Brb someone is dropping off a package.

9:00 (Z)VortiX 91 vs (P)Lilbow 78
Vortix moving to the far left with roaches.
Burrow and tunnelling claws for Vortix.

10:00 (Z)VortiX 109 vs (P)Lilbow 82
Vorix moves into the natural and forces a recall, only loses a few roaches.
13 more roaches on the way.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#87
This is a trainwreck -_-
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#88
More soulless than Voldemort after Deathly Hallows.
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arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#89
so sad that was a mistake out of being nervous
love esports - hate homophobia
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#90
On February 23 2014 02:56 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:53 The_Templar wrote:
On February 23 2014 02:48 The_Templar wrote:
WCS EU Premier: RO16

(Z)VortiX vs (P)Lilbow
1-1


Map: Heavy Rain


VortiX spawns in the bottom
Lilbow spawns in the top

2:00
Gateway followed by two assimilators.
Vortix going spawning pool first.
Pylon block on Vortix's natural.
Pylon completes.
Cybernetics core for Lilbow.

3:00
Four zerglings going to kill the pylon.
Two pylons at the natural of Lilbow already.
Stalker in production.
Vortix expanding.

4:00
Mothership core finishing and moving out.
Four zerglings pressuring but Lilbow forces it away and goes for his own pressure.
Lilbow expanding as well, already kills an overlord.

5:00
Second stalker moving out.
Sentry for Lilbow.
Vortix pumping drones, has a spine crawler in his natural.
Stalkers fail to get into the main.
Robotics facility for Lilbow.

6:00 (Z)VortiX 44 vs (P)Lilbow 39
Roach Warren, lair, and an evolution chamber for Vortix.
A second gateway on the way for Lilbow.
Overlord suicide in Lilbow's main.

7:00 (Z)VortiX 51 vs (P)Lilbow 49
Immortal production, as well as sentries.
+1 ranged attack for Vortix.
Vortix gets roach speed.
A third assimilator on the way for Lilbow.

8:00 (Z)VortiX 60 vs (P)Lilbow 65
Lilbow going up to 5 gateways.
Vortix getting his third base.
Lilbow now going up to seven gateways.
Brb someone is dropping off a package.

9:00 (Z)VortiX 91 vs (P)Lilbow 78
Vortix moving to the far left with roaches.
Burrow and tunnelling claws for Vortix.

10:00 (Z)VortiX 109 vs (P)Lilbow 82
Vorix moves into the natural and forces a recall, only loses a few roaches.
13 more roaches on the way.

11:00 (Z)VortiX 123 vs (P)Lilbow 86
Lilbow moving towards the third base again with lots of units.
Vortix going for a counter attack.
Tons of overlords dying to stalkers.
Vortix pulling drones.

12:00 (Z)VortiX 107 vs (P)Lilbow 65
Lilbow lost all his probes.
Four full energy sentries were left behind.
Lilbow loses the main nexus.

13:00 (Z)VortiX 57 vs (P)Lilbow 44
Vortix still has three hatcheries.
No nexus for Lilbow.
Lilbow GG's!
Vortix wins 2-1!
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#91


Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#92
God damn it, Lilbow.
Still i guess he will have his revenge against Vortix later :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#93
whoops! Looks like Lilbow didn't quite pull that off.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
February 22 2014 17:59 GMT
#94
Poll: Recommend VortiX vs. Lilbow Game 3?

★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do (9)
 
69%

★★★ - Good game (3)
 
23%

★ - Do not see this game no matter what (1)
 
8%

★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year (0)
 
0%

★★★★ - Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend VortiX vs. Lilbow Game 3?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - One of the best games of the year
(Vote): ★★★★ - Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★ - Good game
(Vote): ★★ - Only if you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★ - Do not see this game no matter what


TL+ Member
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 17:59 GMT
#95
On February 23 2014 02:58 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/437285109906280448


he doesn't seem happy about that.
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 22 2014 17:59 GMT
#96
On February 23 2014 02:59 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:58 Musicus wrote:
https://twitter.com/LilbowSC/status/437285109906280448


he doesn't seem happy about that.

Thoes 4 sentries would have made a massive difference in that baserace, i can understand why
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
February 22 2014 18:00 GMT
#97
Well he did put a solid fight but he is not yet at that "premier" level.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
February 22 2014 18:00 GMT
#98
On February 23 2014 02:58 arkedos wrote:
so sad that was a mistake out of being nervous


Yeah, looked like it. Hopefully he'll get himself together and challenge ForGG in the next match!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 22 2014 18:01 GMT
#99
On February 23 2014 03:00 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2014 02:58 arkedos wrote:
so sad that was a mistake out of being nervous


Yeah, looked like it. Hopefully he'll get himself together and challenge ForGG in the next match!

*BabyKnight
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14464 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 18:01:47
February 22 2014 18:01 GMT
#100
nvm
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
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