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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
November 12 2012 15:10 GMT
#41
hOn_sin will crush IrOn.

LETS GO WJS TERRAN
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 12 2012 15:11 GMT
#42
On November 13 2012 00:06 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:01 TheBB wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, here you are.

Dark, Hyvaa, Sin, Center, Brave and Brain don't have ratings yet, so those matches are not included.

Most even: Jangbi vs Shine. Biggest favourite: Squirtle.
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [JYP vs. Noblesse] +
JYP vs. Noblesse

JYP wins (57.12%):
      2-0: 29.99%
      2-1: 27.13%

Noblesse wins (42.88%):
      2-0: 20.46%
      2-1: 22.41%

Most likely winner: JYP (57.12%)
Most likely outcome: JYP 2-0 Noblesse (29.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [San vs. IMHappy] +
San vs. IMHappy

San wins (59.50%):
      2-0: 31.77%
      2-1: 27.73%

IMHappy wins (40.50%):
      2-0: 19.04%
      2-1: 21.46%

Most likely winner: San (59.50%)
Most likely outcome: San 2-0 IMHappy (31.77%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sparta vs. Fantasy] +
Sparta vs. Fantasy

Sparta wins (21.10%):
      2-0: 8.76%
      2-1: 12.34%

Fantasy wins (78.90%):
      2-0: 49.56%
      2-1: 29.34%

Most likely winner: Fantasy (78.90%)
Most likely outcome: Sparta 0-2 Fantasy (49.56%)

+ Show Spoiler [Maru vs. LosirA] +
Maru vs. LosirA

Maru wins (36.09%):
      2-0: 16.50%
      2-1: 19.59%

LosirA wins (63.91%):
      2-0: 35.27%
      2-1: 28.65%

Most likely winner: LosirA (63.91%)
Most likely outcome: Maru 0-2 LosirA (35.27%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sirius vs. Jaedong] +
Sirius vs. Jaedong

Sirius wins (45.65%):
      2-0: 22.18%
      2-1: 23.47%

Jaedong wins (54.35%):
      2-0: 27.99%
      2-1: 26.36%

Most likely winner: Jaedong (54.35%)
Most likely outcome: Sirius 0-2 Jaedong (27.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji] +
BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji

BBoongBBoong wins (38.88%):
      2-0: 18.09%
      2-1: 20.79%

jjakji wins (61.12%):
      2-0: 33.03%
      2-1: 28.09%

Most likely winner: jjakji (61.12%)
Most likely outcome: BBoongBBoong 0-2 jjakji (33.03%)

+ Show Spoiler [Dream vs. Rain] +
Dream vs. Rain

Dream wins (24.29%):
      2-0: 10.30%
      2-1: 13.99%

Rain wins (75.71%):
      2-0: 46.11%
      2-1: 29.60%

Most likely winner: Rain (75.71%)
Most likely outcome: Dream 0-2 Rain (46.11%)

+ Show Spoiler [SuperNova vs. First] +
SuperNova vs. First

SuperNova wins (60.83%):
      2-0: 32.80%
      2-1: 28.03%

First wins (39.17%):
      2-0: 18.26%
      2-1: 20.91%

Most likely winner: SuperNova (60.83%)
Most likely outcome: SuperNova 2-0 First (32.80%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bomber vs. ClassicPrime] +
Bomber vs. ClassicPrime

Bomber wins (69.42%):
      2-0: 40.02%
      2-1: 29.41%

ClassicPrime wins (30.58%):
      2-0: 13.50%
      2-1: 17.08%

Most likely winner: Bomber (69.42%)
Most likely outcome: Bomber 2-0 ClassicPrime (40.02%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bbyong vs. TAiLS] +
Bbyong vs. TAiLS

Bbyong wins (33.96%):
      2-0: 15.32%
      2-1: 18.65%

TAiLS wins (66.04%):
      2-0: 37.04%
      2-1: 28.99%

Most likely winner: TAiLS (66.04%)
Most likely outcome: Bbyong 0-2 TAiLS (37.04%)

+ Show Spoiler [Heart vs. NesTea] +
Heart vs. NesTea

Heart wins (54.22%):
      2-0: 27.90%
      2-1: 26.32%

NesTea wins (45.78%):
      2-0: 22.26%
      2-1: 23.52%

Most likely winner: Heart (54.22%)
Most likely outcome: Heart 2-0 NesTea (27.90%)

+ Show Spoiler [ByuN vs. Sang] +
ByuN vs. Sang

ByuN wins (71.69%):
      2-0: 42.12%
      2-1: 29.57%

Sang wins (28.31%):
      2-0: 12.32%
      2-1: 15.99%

Most likely winner: ByuN (71.69%)
Most likely outcome: ByuN 2-0 Sang (42.12%)

+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs. Flying] +
aLive vs. Flying

aLive wins (59.13%):
      2-0: 31.49%
      2-1: 27.64%

Flying wins (40.87%):
      2-0: 19.26%
      2-1: 21.61%

Most likely winner: aLive (59.13%)
Most likely outcome: aLive 2-0 Flying (31.49%)

+ Show Spoiler [ShinefOu vs. JangBi] +
ShinefOu vs. JangBi

ShinefOu wins (49.20%):
      2-0: 24.47%
      2-1: 24.73%

JangBi wins (50.80%):
      2-0: 25.54%
      2-1: 25.26%

Most likely winner: JangBi (50.80%)
Most likely outcome: ShinefOu 0-2 JangBi (25.54%)

+ Show Spoiler [Squirtle vs. Miya] +
Squirtle vs. Miya

Squirtle wins (83.00%):
      2-0: 54.46%
      2-1: 28.54%

Miya wins (17.00%):
      2-0: 6.86%
      2-1: 10.13%

Most likely winner: Squirtle (83.00%)
Most likely outcome: Squirtle 2-0 Miya (54.46%)

+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs. YongHwa] +
Mini vs. YongHwa

Mini wins (19.06%):
      2-0: 7.81%
      2-1: 11.25%

YongHwa wins (80.94%):
      2-0: 51.93%
      2-1: 29.02%

Most likely winner: YongHwa (80.94%)
Most likely outcome: Mini 0-2 YongHwa (51.93%)

+ Show Spoiler [MMA vs. ByuL] +
MMA vs. ByuL

MMA wins (67.72%):
      2-0: 38.50%
      2-1: 29.22%

ByuL wins (32.28%):
      2-0: 14.40%
      2-1: 17.87%

Most likely winner: MMA (67.72%)
Most likely outcome: MMA 2-0 ByuL (38.50%)

+ Show Spoiler [Trap vs. asd] +
Trap vs. asd

Trap wins (69.31%):
      2-0: 39.92%
      2-1: 29.39%

asd wins (30.69%):
      2-0: 13.56%
      2-1: 17.13%

Most likely winner: Trap (69.31%)
Most likely outcome: Trap 2-0 asd (39.92%)

All your most likely outcome are 2-0... not sure if make sense

Actually, under the model I'm using, it's always the case that a 2-0 is more likely than a 2-1. Suppose the best player has probability p to win any single game, and the other guy has probability 1-p. Then

p > 0.5
1-p < 0.5

Now, the probability of a 2-0 for the best player is p^2, and the probability of a 2-1 is 2(1-p)p^2 = 2(1-p) times the probability of a 2-0.

This factor 2(1-p) is always less than 1 (since 1-p < 0.5), so the probability of 2-1 is always smaller.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
November 12 2012 15:11 GMT
#43
FANTASY JD MMA GOGO!!
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#44
On November 13 2012 00:06 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:01 TheBB wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, here you are.

Dark, Hyvaa, Sin, Center, Brave and Brain don't have ratings yet, so those matches are not included.

Most even: Jangbi vs Shine. Biggest favourite: Squirtle.
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [JYP vs. Noblesse] +
JYP vs. Noblesse

JYP wins (57.12%):
      2-0: 29.99%
      2-1: 27.13%

Noblesse wins (42.88%):
      2-0: 20.46%
      2-1: 22.41%

Most likely winner: JYP (57.12%)
Most likely outcome: JYP 2-0 Noblesse (29.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [San vs. IMHappy] +
San vs. IMHappy

San wins (59.50%):
      2-0: 31.77%
      2-1: 27.73%

IMHappy wins (40.50%):
      2-0: 19.04%
      2-1: 21.46%

Most likely winner: San (59.50%)
Most likely outcome: San 2-0 IMHappy (31.77%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sparta vs. Fantasy] +
Sparta vs. Fantasy

Sparta wins (21.10%):
      2-0: 8.76%
      2-1: 12.34%

Fantasy wins (78.90%):
      2-0: 49.56%
      2-1: 29.34%

Most likely winner: Fantasy (78.90%)
Most likely outcome: Sparta 0-2 Fantasy (49.56%)

+ Show Spoiler [Maru vs. LosirA] +
Maru vs. LosirA

Maru wins (36.09%):
      2-0: 16.50%
      2-1: 19.59%

LosirA wins (63.91%):
      2-0: 35.27%
      2-1: 28.65%

Most likely winner: LosirA (63.91%)
Most likely outcome: Maru 0-2 LosirA (35.27%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sirius vs. Jaedong] +
Sirius vs. Jaedong

Sirius wins (45.65%):
      2-0: 22.18%
      2-1: 23.47%

Jaedong wins (54.35%):
      2-0: 27.99%
      2-1: 26.36%

Most likely winner: Jaedong (54.35%)
Most likely outcome: Sirius 0-2 Jaedong (27.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji] +
BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji

BBoongBBoong wins (38.88%):
      2-0: 18.09%
      2-1: 20.79%

jjakji wins (61.12%):
      2-0: 33.03%
      2-1: 28.09%

Most likely winner: jjakji (61.12%)
Most likely outcome: BBoongBBoong 0-2 jjakji (33.03%)

+ Show Spoiler [Dream vs. Rain] +
Dream vs. Rain

Dream wins (24.29%):
      2-0: 10.30%
      2-1: 13.99%

Rain wins (75.71%):
      2-0: 46.11%
      2-1: 29.60%

Most likely winner: Rain (75.71%)
Most likely outcome: Dream 0-2 Rain (46.11%)

+ Show Spoiler [SuperNova vs. First] +
SuperNova vs. First

SuperNova wins (60.83%):
      2-0: 32.80%
      2-1: 28.03%

First wins (39.17%):
      2-0: 18.26%
      2-1: 20.91%

Most likely winner: SuperNova (60.83%)
Most likely outcome: SuperNova 2-0 First (32.80%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bomber vs. ClassicPrime] +
Bomber vs. ClassicPrime

Bomber wins (69.42%):
      2-0: 40.02%
      2-1: 29.41%

ClassicPrime wins (30.58%):
      2-0: 13.50%
      2-1: 17.08%

Most likely winner: Bomber (69.42%)
Most likely outcome: Bomber 2-0 ClassicPrime (40.02%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bbyong vs. TAiLS] +
Bbyong vs. TAiLS

Bbyong wins (33.96%):
      2-0: 15.32%
      2-1: 18.65%

TAiLS wins (66.04%):
      2-0: 37.04%
      2-1: 28.99%

Most likely winner: TAiLS (66.04%)
Most likely outcome: Bbyong 0-2 TAiLS (37.04%)

+ Show Spoiler [Heart vs. NesTea] +
Heart vs. NesTea

Heart wins (54.22%):
      2-0: 27.90%
      2-1: 26.32%

NesTea wins (45.78%):
      2-0: 22.26%
      2-1: 23.52%

Most likely winner: Heart (54.22%)
Most likely outcome: Heart 2-0 NesTea (27.90%)

+ Show Spoiler [ByuN vs. Sang] +
ByuN vs. Sang

ByuN wins (71.69%):
      2-0: 42.12%
      2-1: 29.57%

Sang wins (28.31%):
      2-0: 12.32%
      2-1: 15.99%

Most likely winner: ByuN (71.69%)
Most likely outcome: ByuN 2-0 Sang (42.12%)

+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs. Flying] +
aLive vs. Flying

aLive wins (59.13%):
      2-0: 31.49%
      2-1: 27.64%

Flying wins (40.87%):
      2-0: 19.26%
      2-1: 21.61%

Most likely winner: aLive (59.13%)
Most likely outcome: aLive 2-0 Flying (31.49%)

+ Show Spoiler [ShinefOu vs. JangBi] +
ShinefOu vs. JangBi

ShinefOu wins (49.20%):
      2-0: 24.47%
      2-1: 24.73%

JangBi wins (50.80%):
      2-0: 25.54%
      2-1: 25.26%

Most likely winner: JangBi (50.80%)
Most likely outcome: ShinefOu 0-2 JangBi (25.54%)

+ Show Spoiler [Squirtle vs. Miya] +
Squirtle vs. Miya

Squirtle wins (83.00%):
      2-0: 54.46%
      2-1: 28.54%

Miya wins (17.00%):
      2-0: 6.86%
      2-1: 10.13%

Most likely winner: Squirtle (83.00%)
Most likely outcome: Squirtle 2-0 Miya (54.46%)

+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs. YongHwa] +
Mini vs. YongHwa

Mini wins (19.06%):
      2-0: 7.81%
      2-1: 11.25%

YongHwa wins (80.94%):
      2-0: 51.93%
      2-1: 29.02%

Most likely winner: YongHwa (80.94%)
Most likely outcome: Mini 0-2 YongHwa (51.93%)

+ Show Spoiler [MMA vs. ByuL] +
MMA vs. ByuL

MMA wins (67.72%):
      2-0: 38.50%
      2-1: 29.22%

ByuL wins (32.28%):
      2-0: 14.40%
      2-1: 17.87%

Most likely winner: MMA (67.72%)
Most likely outcome: MMA 2-0 ByuL (38.50%)

+ Show Spoiler [Trap vs. asd] +
Trap vs. asd

Trap wins (69.31%):
      2-0: 39.92%
      2-1: 29.39%

asd wins (30.69%):
      2-0: 13.56%
      2-1: 17.13%

Most likely winner: Trap (69.31%)
Most likely outcome: Trap 2-0 asd (39.92%)


All your most likely outcome are 2-0... not sure if make sense
BTW, think you can incorporate something like Bill James' temperature gauge?


Actually, mathematically, 2-0 for the favorite is always going to be the most likely outcome.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#45
On November 13 2012 00:01 TheBB wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, here you are.

Dark, Hyvaa, Sin, Center, Brave and Brain don't have ratings yet, so those matches are not included.

Most even: Jangbi vs Shine. Biggest favourite: Squirtle.

+ Show Spoiler [JYP vs. Noblesse] +
JYP vs. Noblesse

JYP wins (57.12%):
      2-0: 29.99%
      2-1: 27.13%

Noblesse wins (42.88%):
      2-0: 20.46%
      2-1: 22.41%

Most likely winner: JYP (57.12%)
Most likely outcome: JYP 2-0 Noblesse (29.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [Maru vs. LosirA] +
Maru vs. LosirA

Maru wins (36.09%):
      2-0: 16.50%
      2-1: 19.59%

LosirA wins (63.91%):
      2-0: 35.27%
      2-1: 28.65%

Most likely winner: LosirA (63.91%)
Most likely outcome: Maru 0-2 LosirA (35.27%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bbyong vs. TAiLS] +
Bbyong vs. TAiLS

Bbyong wins (33.96%):
      2-0: 15.32%
      2-1: 18.65%

TAiLS wins (66.04%):
      2-0: 37.04%
      2-1: 28.99%

Most likely winner: TAiLS (66.04%)
Most likely outcome: Bbyong 0-2 TAiLS (37.04%)

+ Show Spoiler [ByuN vs. Sang] +
ByuN vs. Sang

ByuN wins (71.69%):
      2-0: 42.12%
      2-1: 29.57%

Sang wins (28.31%):
      2-0: 12.32%
      2-1: 15.99%

Most likely winner: ByuN (71.69%)
Most likely outcome: ByuN 2-0 Sang (42.12%)

+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs. Flying] +
aLive vs. Flying

aLive wins (59.13%):
      2-0: 31.49%
      2-1: 27.64%

Flying wins (40.87%):
      2-0: 19.26%
      2-1: 21.61%

Most likely winner: aLive (59.13%)
Most likely outcome: aLive 2-0 Flying (31.49%)

+ Show Spoiler [Squirtle vs. Miya] +
Squirtle vs. Miya

Squirtle wins (83.00%):
      2-0: 54.46%
      2-1: 28.54%

Miya wins (17.00%):
      2-0: 6.86%
      2-1: 10.13%

Most likely winner: Squirtle (83.00%)
Most likely outcome: Squirtle 2-0 Miya (54.46%)

+ Show Spoiler [MMA vs. ByuL] +
MMA vs. ByuL

MMA wins (67.72%):
      2-0: 38.50%
      2-1: 29.22%

ByuL wins (32.28%):
      2-0: 14.40%
      2-1: 17.87%

Most likely winner: MMA (67.72%)
Most likely outcome: MMA 2-0 ByuL (38.50%)


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+ Show Spoiler [ShinefOu vs. JangBi] +
ShinefOu vs. JangBi

ShinefOu wins (49.20%):
      2-0: 24.47%
      2-1: 24.73%

JangBi wins (50.80%):
      2-0: 25.54%
      2-1: 25.26%

Most likely winner: JangBi (50.80%)
Most likely outcome: ShinefOu 0-2 JangBi (25.54%)


I hope the most likely results above the line happen... and it's freaking amazing how close this one is below the line....
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 12 2012 15:26 GMT
#46
On November 13 2012 00:11 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:06 ragz_gt wrote:
On November 13 2012 00:01 TheBB wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, here you are.

Dark, Hyvaa, Sin, Center, Brave and Brain don't have ratings yet, so those matches are not included.

Most even: Jangbi vs Shine. Biggest favourite: Squirtle.
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [JYP vs. Noblesse] +
JYP vs. Noblesse

JYP wins (57.12%):
      2-0: 29.99%
      2-1: 27.13%

Noblesse wins (42.88%):
      2-0: 20.46%
      2-1: 22.41%

Most likely winner: JYP (57.12%)
Most likely outcome: JYP 2-0 Noblesse (29.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [San vs. IMHappy] +
San vs. IMHappy

San wins (59.50%):
      2-0: 31.77%
      2-1: 27.73%

IMHappy wins (40.50%):
      2-0: 19.04%
      2-1: 21.46%

Most likely winner: San (59.50%)
Most likely outcome: San 2-0 IMHappy (31.77%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sparta vs. Fantasy] +
Sparta vs. Fantasy

Sparta wins (21.10%):
      2-0: 8.76%
      2-1: 12.34%

Fantasy wins (78.90%):
      2-0: 49.56%
      2-1: 29.34%

Most likely winner: Fantasy (78.90%)
Most likely outcome: Sparta 0-2 Fantasy (49.56%)

+ Show Spoiler [Maru vs. LosirA] +
Maru vs. LosirA

Maru wins (36.09%):
      2-0: 16.50%
      2-1: 19.59%

LosirA wins (63.91%):
      2-0: 35.27%
      2-1: 28.65%

Most likely winner: LosirA (63.91%)
Most likely outcome: Maru 0-2 LosirA (35.27%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sirius vs. Jaedong] +
Sirius vs. Jaedong

Sirius wins (45.65%):
      2-0: 22.18%
      2-1: 23.47%

Jaedong wins (54.35%):
      2-0: 27.99%
      2-1: 26.36%

Most likely winner: Jaedong (54.35%)
Most likely outcome: Sirius 0-2 Jaedong (27.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji] +
BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji

BBoongBBoong wins (38.88%):
      2-0: 18.09%
      2-1: 20.79%

jjakji wins (61.12%):
      2-0: 33.03%
      2-1: 28.09%

Most likely winner: jjakji (61.12%)
Most likely outcome: BBoongBBoong 0-2 jjakji (33.03%)

+ Show Spoiler [Dream vs. Rain] +
Dream vs. Rain

Dream wins (24.29%):
      2-0: 10.30%
      2-1: 13.99%

Rain wins (75.71%):
      2-0: 46.11%
      2-1: 29.60%

Most likely winner: Rain (75.71%)
Most likely outcome: Dream 0-2 Rain (46.11%)

+ Show Spoiler [SuperNova vs. First] +
SuperNova vs. First

SuperNova wins (60.83%):
      2-0: 32.80%
      2-1: 28.03%

First wins (39.17%):
      2-0: 18.26%
      2-1: 20.91%

Most likely winner: SuperNova (60.83%)
Most likely outcome: SuperNova 2-0 First (32.80%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bomber vs. ClassicPrime] +
Bomber vs. ClassicPrime

Bomber wins (69.42%):
      2-0: 40.02%
      2-1: 29.41%

ClassicPrime wins (30.58%):
      2-0: 13.50%
      2-1: 17.08%

Most likely winner: Bomber (69.42%)
Most likely outcome: Bomber 2-0 ClassicPrime (40.02%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bbyong vs. TAiLS] +
Bbyong vs. TAiLS

Bbyong wins (33.96%):
      2-0: 15.32%
      2-1: 18.65%

TAiLS wins (66.04%):
      2-0: 37.04%
      2-1: 28.99%

Most likely winner: TAiLS (66.04%)
Most likely outcome: Bbyong 0-2 TAiLS (37.04%)

+ Show Spoiler [Heart vs. NesTea] +
Heart vs. NesTea

Heart wins (54.22%):
      2-0: 27.90%
      2-1: 26.32%

NesTea wins (45.78%):
      2-0: 22.26%
      2-1: 23.52%

Most likely winner: Heart (54.22%)
Most likely outcome: Heart 2-0 NesTea (27.90%)

+ Show Spoiler [ByuN vs. Sang] +
ByuN vs. Sang

ByuN wins (71.69%):
      2-0: 42.12%
      2-1: 29.57%

Sang wins (28.31%):
      2-0: 12.32%
      2-1: 15.99%

Most likely winner: ByuN (71.69%)
Most likely outcome: ByuN 2-0 Sang (42.12%)

+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs. Flying] +
aLive vs. Flying

aLive wins (59.13%):
      2-0: 31.49%
      2-1: 27.64%

Flying wins (40.87%):
      2-0: 19.26%
      2-1: 21.61%

Most likely winner: aLive (59.13%)
Most likely outcome: aLive 2-0 Flying (31.49%)

+ Show Spoiler [ShinefOu vs. JangBi] +
ShinefOu vs. JangBi

ShinefOu wins (49.20%):
      2-0: 24.47%
      2-1: 24.73%

JangBi wins (50.80%):
      2-0: 25.54%
      2-1: 25.26%

Most likely winner: JangBi (50.80%)
Most likely outcome: ShinefOu 0-2 JangBi (25.54%)

+ Show Spoiler [Squirtle vs. Miya] +
Squirtle vs. Miya

Squirtle wins (83.00%):
      2-0: 54.46%
      2-1: 28.54%

Miya wins (17.00%):
      2-0: 6.86%
      2-1: 10.13%

Most likely winner: Squirtle (83.00%)
Most likely outcome: Squirtle 2-0 Miya (54.46%)

+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs. YongHwa] +
Mini vs. YongHwa

Mini wins (19.06%):
      2-0: 7.81%
      2-1: 11.25%

YongHwa wins (80.94%):
      2-0: 51.93%
      2-1: 29.02%

Most likely winner: YongHwa (80.94%)
Most likely outcome: Mini 0-2 YongHwa (51.93%)

+ Show Spoiler [MMA vs. ByuL] +
MMA vs. ByuL

MMA wins (67.72%):
      2-0: 38.50%
      2-1: 29.22%

ByuL wins (32.28%):
      2-0: 14.40%
      2-1: 17.87%

Most likely winner: MMA (67.72%)
Most likely outcome: MMA 2-0 ByuL (38.50%)

+ Show Spoiler [Trap vs. asd] +
Trap vs. asd

Trap wins (69.31%):
      2-0: 39.92%
      2-1: 29.39%

asd wins (30.69%):
      2-0: 13.56%
      2-1: 17.13%

Most likely winner: Trap (69.31%)
Most likely outcome: Trap 2-0 asd (39.92%)

All your most likely outcome are 2-0... not sure if make sense

Actually, under the model I'm using, it's always the case that a 2-0 is more likely than a 2-1. Suppose the best player has probability p to win any single game, and the other guy has probability 1-p. Then

p > 0.5
1-p < 0.5

Now, the probability of a 2-0 for the best player is p^2, and the probability of a 2-1 is 2(1-p)p^2 = 2(1-p) times the probability of a 2-0.

This factor 2(1-p) is always less than 1 (since 1-p < 0.5), so the probability of 2-1 is always smaller.


Ah I thought by most likely you meant "expected outcome", not "outcome that comes out the most in simulation". That makes more sense
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
November 12 2012 15:27 GMT
#47
I really hope Bbyong makes it ~_~
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
November 12 2012 15:34 GMT
#48
I remember a year ago in Code A you could always tell who would make it through. Now its just..... damn, so stacked.
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 15:46:40
November 12 2012 15:44 GMT
#49
On November 13 2012 00:27 Epoxide wrote:
I really hope Bbyong makes it ~_~

After watching his Code A games last season and Code S games this season... I really hope he loses... His play really isn't at the caliber of the others I've been watching all year... He sort of lucked out with his bracket last season... Hopefully TAiLS can make it past the ro48 for once this season... He's always fun to watch...

edit - By "lucked out" I mean he faced First, Genius, and Heart... and won all three matches with a 2-1 score... Right below him there was Creator, aLive, ByuN, and MC in one bracket... talk about underwhelming bracket being right above overwhelming bracket... ~_~
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 12 2012 15:45 GMT
#50
On November 13 2012 00:26 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:11 TheBB wrote:
On November 13 2012 00:06 ragz_gt wrote:
On November 13 2012 00:01 TheBB wrote:
Well, for what it's worth, here you are.

Dark, Hyvaa, Sin, Center, Brave and Brain don't have ratings yet, so those matches are not included.

Most even: Jangbi vs Shine. Biggest favourite: Squirtle.
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler [JYP vs. Noblesse] +
JYP vs. Noblesse

JYP wins (57.12%):
      2-0: 29.99%
      2-1: 27.13%

Noblesse wins (42.88%):
      2-0: 20.46%
      2-1: 22.41%

Most likely winner: JYP (57.12%)
Most likely outcome: JYP 2-0 Noblesse (29.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [San vs. IMHappy] +
San vs. IMHappy

San wins (59.50%):
      2-0: 31.77%
      2-1: 27.73%

IMHappy wins (40.50%):
      2-0: 19.04%
      2-1: 21.46%

Most likely winner: San (59.50%)
Most likely outcome: San 2-0 IMHappy (31.77%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sparta vs. Fantasy] +
Sparta vs. Fantasy

Sparta wins (21.10%):
      2-0: 8.76%
      2-1: 12.34%

Fantasy wins (78.90%):
      2-0: 49.56%
      2-1: 29.34%

Most likely winner: Fantasy (78.90%)
Most likely outcome: Sparta 0-2 Fantasy (49.56%)

+ Show Spoiler [Maru vs. LosirA] +
Maru vs. LosirA

Maru wins (36.09%):
      2-0: 16.50%
      2-1: 19.59%

LosirA wins (63.91%):
      2-0: 35.27%
      2-1: 28.65%

Most likely winner: LosirA (63.91%)
Most likely outcome: Maru 0-2 LosirA (35.27%)

+ Show Spoiler [Sirius vs. Jaedong] +
Sirius vs. Jaedong

Sirius wins (45.65%):
      2-0: 22.18%
      2-1: 23.47%

Jaedong wins (54.35%):
      2-0: 27.99%
      2-1: 26.36%

Most likely winner: Jaedong (54.35%)
Most likely outcome: Sirius 0-2 Jaedong (27.99%)

+ Show Spoiler [BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji] +
BBoongBBoong vs. jjakji

BBoongBBoong wins (38.88%):
      2-0: 18.09%
      2-1: 20.79%

jjakji wins (61.12%):
      2-0: 33.03%
      2-1: 28.09%

Most likely winner: jjakji (61.12%)
Most likely outcome: BBoongBBoong 0-2 jjakji (33.03%)

+ Show Spoiler [Dream vs. Rain] +
Dream vs. Rain

Dream wins (24.29%):
      2-0: 10.30%
      2-1: 13.99%

Rain wins (75.71%):
      2-0: 46.11%
      2-1: 29.60%

Most likely winner: Rain (75.71%)
Most likely outcome: Dream 0-2 Rain (46.11%)

+ Show Spoiler [SuperNova vs. First] +
SuperNova vs. First

SuperNova wins (60.83%):
      2-0: 32.80%
      2-1: 28.03%

First wins (39.17%):
      2-0: 18.26%
      2-1: 20.91%

Most likely winner: SuperNova (60.83%)
Most likely outcome: SuperNova 2-0 First (32.80%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bomber vs. ClassicPrime] +
Bomber vs. ClassicPrime

Bomber wins (69.42%):
      2-0: 40.02%
      2-1: 29.41%

ClassicPrime wins (30.58%):
      2-0: 13.50%
      2-1: 17.08%

Most likely winner: Bomber (69.42%)
Most likely outcome: Bomber 2-0 ClassicPrime (40.02%)

+ Show Spoiler [Bbyong vs. TAiLS] +
Bbyong vs. TAiLS

Bbyong wins (33.96%):
      2-0: 15.32%
      2-1: 18.65%

TAiLS wins (66.04%):
      2-0: 37.04%
      2-1: 28.99%

Most likely winner: TAiLS (66.04%)
Most likely outcome: Bbyong 0-2 TAiLS (37.04%)

+ Show Spoiler [Heart vs. NesTea] +
Heart vs. NesTea

Heart wins (54.22%):
      2-0: 27.90%
      2-1: 26.32%

NesTea wins (45.78%):
      2-0: 22.26%
      2-1: 23.52%

Most likely winner: Heart (54.22%)
Most likely outcome: Heart 2-0 NesTea (27.90%)

+ Show Spoiler [ByuN vs. Sang] +
ByuN vs. Sang

ByuN wins (71.69%):
      2-0: 42.12%
      2-1: 29.57%

Sang wins (28.31%):
      2-0: 12.32%
      2-1: 15.99%

Most likely winner: ByuN (71.69%)
Most likely outcome: ByuN 2-0 Sang (42.12%)

+ Show Spoiler [aLive vs. Flying] +
aLive vs. Flying

aLive wins (59.13%):
      2-0: 31.49%
      2-1: 27.64%

Flying wins (40.87%):
      2-0: 19.26%
      2-1: 21.61%

Most likely winner: aLive (59.13%)
Most likely outcome: aLive 2-0 Flying (31.49%)

+ Show Spoiler [ShinefOu vs. JangBi] +
ShinefOu vs. JangBi

ShinefOu wins (49.20%):
      2-0: 24.47%
      2-1: 24.73%

JangBi wins (50.80%):
      2-0: 25.54%
      2-1: 25.26%

Most likely winner: JangBi (50.80%)
Most likely outcome: ShinefOu 0-2 JangBi (25.54%)

+ Show Spoiler [Squirtle vs. Miya] +
Squirtle vs. Miya

Squirtle wins (83.00%):
      2-0: 54.46%
      2-1: 28.54%

Miya wins (17.00%):
      2-0: 6.86%
      2-1: 10.13%

Most likely winner: Squirtle (83.00%)
Most likely outcome: Squirtle 2-0 Miya (54.46%)

+ Show Spoiler [Mini vs. YongHwa] +
Mini vs. YongHwa

Mini wins (19.06%):
      2-0: 7.81%
      2-1: 11.25%

YongHwa wins (80.94%):
      2-0: 51.93%
      2-1: 29.02%

Most likely winner: YongHwa (80.94%)
Most likely outcome: Mini 0-2 YongHwa (51.93%)

+ Show Spoiler [MMA vs. ByuL] +
MMA vs. ByuL

MMA wins (67.72%):
      2-0: 38.50%
      2-1: 29.22%

ByuL wins (32.28%):
      2-0: 14.40%
      2-1: 17.87%

Most likely winner: MMA (67.72%)
Most likely outcome: MMA 2-0 ByuL (38.50%)

+ Show Spoiler [Trap vs. asd] +
Trap vs. asd

Trap wins (69.31%):
      2-0: 39.92%
      2-1: 29.39%

asd wins (30.69%):
      2-0: 13.56%
      2-1: 17.13%

Most likely winner: Trap (69.31%)
Most likely outcome: Trap 2-0 asd (39.92%)

All your most likely outcome are 2-0... not sure if make sense

Actually, under the model I'm using, it's always the case that a 2-0 is more likely than a 2-1. Suppose the best player has probability p to win any single game, and the other guy has probability 1-p. Then

p > 0.5
1-p < 0.5

Now, the probability of a 2-0 for the best player is p^2, and the probability of a 2-1 is 2(1-p)p^2 = 2(1-p) times the probability of a 2-0.

This factor 2(1-p) is always less than 1 (since 1-p < 0.5), so the probability of 2-1 is always smaller.

Ah I thought by most likely you meant "expected outcome", not "outcome that comes out the most in simulation". That makes more sense

Yep!

Btw, your question inspired this.

I really need to get back to work now, lol.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 12 2012 15:47 GMT
#51
LOL great! keep up the good work!
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
November 12 2012 15:48 GMT
#52
Go Bomber! ^_^
The Bomber boy
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
November 12 2012 15:50 GMT
#53
YongHwa will drop out of GSL in a random PvP and all is right in the SC2 world...

Looks like some great match-ups, GSL's player quality is insane.
Blardy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States290 Posts
November 12 2012 15:52 GMT
#54
I can't see MVP not making it back into code s. Even without hands and a neck, he outclasses the people in his bracket.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
November 12 2012 15:54 GMT
#55
On November 13 2012 00:48 Wintex wrote:
Go Bomber! ^_^


Guaranteed round 2 at least by his top 1 in the world TvP... Sorry, Classic.
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
November 12 2012 16:00 GMT
#56
Well, here's what I think (and hope) will happen:

+ Show Spoiler +
Taeja > Dark (Taeja's just more experienced and solid all around)
Genius > hyvaa (Genius is usually wonky, but when in-form, he is a dominating force in PvZ)
JYP > Noblesse (JYP has worked hard on closing his holes on PvT, and has some decent wins as of late in the match-up)
Happy < San (Happy is more of a TvT and TvZ specialist than a TvPer, while San has been in good form as of late)
Sparta < Fantasy (Fantasy is really good with TvTs, and has most likely improved much more under BoxeR's tutelage)
MC > Bravo (Come on, it's MC.)
Maru < LosirA (Maru has been off his game as of late, and LosirA looks like he has something to prove)
Sirius < Jaedong (Jaedong's interview reveals that he's taking the game a lot more seriously now. We all know what that means)
B4 < jjakji (Back in jjakji's heyday, he was a monster of TvZ. Maybe he's gotten a bit of that luster back)
Rain > Dream (It's hard to have good dreams in the rainy season)
Supernova > First (Supernova is still a scary player when he's on groove, even with the recent disappointing results)
Bomber > Classic (Bomber is back, as proven when he narrowly lost to Stephano in a best of 9, a score of 4-5)
bbyong < TAILS (TAILS should be able to show his GSTL strengths in GSL sooner or later)
Heart < Nestea (Nestea looks a little bit revitalized after spending some time in the qualifiers)
Byun > Terminator (Byun is crazy strong when on point)
Seed > Center (Seed disappointed in this season, but he's still a very strong player)
Shine < jangbi (It's taken a while for jangbi to get in-form, but now that he has, he should be pretty strong)
Squirtle < Miya (For all Miya's whining about ZvP, Zergs in the late-game are almost unstoppable)
mini < YongHwa (YongHwa's first Code A. I doubt he's planning to go back to Code B)
Flash > Brave (Flash is strong at TvP. He's also Flash)
Baby > Brain (Baby has more experience sadly)
MMA > Byul (Get back to Code S, MMA. You don't belong in Code A)
Trap > asd (asd is more TvT. This is the only wild guess I have though)
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
noobkrieg
Profile Joined October 2012
23 Posts
November 12 2012 16:01 GMT
#57
Poor Genius ;( zerg in first round..
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 12 2012 16:09 GMT
#58
Worst matchup is probably Seed versus Center.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 12 2012 16:14 GMT
#59
I think we're now at the point where there is little distinction between Code A/S.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 12 2012 16:15 GMT
#60
holy stacked batman
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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