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MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
September 22 2011 18:16 GMT
#1
Hi, I have made a new desktop with which to play Starcraft 2. Unfortunatley I have noticed a problem with it. While playing starcraft 2 it starts out well handling everything on extreme with no problems 60+ fps and everything. but after maybe a game or two it starts getting choppy (lower fps just seems like lag but I have great internet at work where i was playing 18 meg) it progressively gets worse ending at being unplayable until I restart then It is ok for a bit then starts declining. here are my computers Specs:

Mobo: Asus M4N75TD
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6077065&CatId=5545

Memory: 4gb of corsair 1300mhz (I accidentaly installed 32 bit version plan to rectify this soon actually have 16gb)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=744484&CatId=4534

Processor: AMD 1100T black edition 6-core 3.30ghz stock fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7023169&Sku=A79-1100

Graphics Card: GTX 560ti 1gb ddr5 of graphics memory
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41125&Sku=E145-0550

Case: Azza CSAZ-910 Helios 910 ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41021&Sku=A702-0005


Operating System: Windows Ultimate 32bit(accidental install of 32 will reinstall to 64 soon )

Power Supply: Kingwin ABT-1050MM Maximum Power 1050-Watt Power Supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5683590&CatId=2535

If you need anymore info please tell me I would love to figure out what is wrong so I can get back to playing!!
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 18:20:35
September 22 2011 18:20 GMT
#2
1. You're using Windows 32-bit, so you're only using part of your RAM. Could be a root cause of the problem.
2. Can you enumerate your FPS issues. For example, if you're going from like 80FPS to 45FPS in big battles, I think that might be normal with that CPU. State what FPS you get average at what resolution/graphics/cpu settings, and what events cause it to dip to what point.
3. The fact that you say it works better after a restart also might indicate a heat issue. Have you looked into this?
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
September 22 2011 18:21 GMT
#3
I guess saying fps is the problem may be wrong because it still shows high fps when im playing and its bad. and i ran a heat monitoring problem while playing and it got to around 60C i believe.
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
September 22 2011 18:26 GMT
#4
Are you running on the stock cooler?

60C is about the TOP TOP end of a Phenom II in terms of heat for a stock cooler, so yeah you're definitely pushing it, especially if only 2/6th of your cores were being used, and SC2 shouldn't even be using those 2 at 100% all the time.

If you're using an aftermarket, that's definitely bad.

Do you know how to run prime95 and use HWMonitor or some other temp program?

Also, sincerely look into installing 64-bit Windows.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
September 22 2011 18:31 GMT
#5
That is the heat for the graphics card not the processor. And how do I get starcraft to use all the cores?
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-22 19:14:19
September 22 2011 19:14 GMT
#6
On September 23 2011 03:31 MindBreaker wrote:
That is the heat for the graphics card not the processor. And how do I get starcraft to use all the cores?


You don't. Most games, in fact. Ph2 X6 is a waste of money for 99% of users, and barely worth it for the remainder.

How much free space does your primary HDD have?
HackBenjamin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1094 Posts
September 22 2011 19:20 GMT
#7
If performance in-game is degrading over time, I would lean towards over-heating issues. If this is the case (which you can determine with the above-mentioned utilities), clean out some dust, replace and add a few fans. Check the thermal paste on the GPU and CPU.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 22 2011 19:45 GMT
#8
On September 23 2011 03:21 MindBreaker wrote:
I guess saying fps is the problem may be wrong because it still shows high fps when im playing and its bad. and i ran a heat monitoring problem while playing and it got to around 60C i believe.


If you are getting high frames all the time, what is the problem? What's bad?
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
September 22 2011 22:09 GMT
#9
FPS can be high but still stutter. Usually it's just lag due to internet, but he is saying he's getting 18mbps.

That temp is normal for your GPU.

You can't force SC2 to use more cores.

Try running prime95, CPU-Z, and HWMonitor. Use prime95 to make your CPU run under full load and show us the statistics in CPU-Z and HWMonitor.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
October 03 2011 23:15 GMT
#10
Thank you for all your guys help turns out it was my mouse interfering with the game i have the razer spectre luckily the patch fixed it. Works great now!!!
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 03 2011 23:48 GMT
#11
glad to hear, as a sidenote you couldn't have screwed up more with the processor, mobo and the PSU o.O Phenom II for SC2 like..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
October 04 2011 00:15 GMT
#12
Well Its mostly a work computer not just for SC2. though SC2 was a good reason I had to go for work reasons on some of the hardware
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2011 00:51 GMT
#13
but like black edition amd on a stock fan(i5 2400 wrecks this in everything) and the PSU is overkill by around 130%.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
October 04 2011 00:56 GMT
#14
room for expansion (more graphics cards)

Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 01:05:51
October 04 2011 01:05 GMT
#15
oh ok well, hope you'll enjoy the bottleneck you create for yourself by using the phenom II processor so that you barely have any performance gains even with 2-way SLi(that's 600-650W), not to mention that your mobo doesn't even support more GPUs so you're paying the ~hundred extra for air and likely for worse efficiency at the levels you use the PSU.

Also, you allined yourself by getting a non-bulldozer mobo and screwed yourself over by not getting intel.


Now as for the issue my best bet is that it's a combination of 32bit being shit and your CPU being shit and half of that you can fix.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
October 04 2011 01:08 GMT
#16
On October 04 2011 10:05 Shikyo wrote:
oh ok well, hope you'll enjoy the bottleneck you create for yourself by using the phenom II processor so that you barely have any performance gains even with 2-way SLi(that's 600-650W), not to mention that your mobo doesn't even support more GPUs so you're paying the ~hundred extra for air and likely for worse efficiency at the levels you use the PSU.

Also, you allined yourself by getting a non-bulldozer mobo and screwed yourself over by not getting intel.


Now as for the issue my best bet is that it's a combination of 32bit being shit and your CPU being shit and half of that you can fix.

Well thanks for shitting all over me being a guy new to building computers and like I said it works fine now after then patch and also I accidentally installed 32 bit and have already reinstalled with 64bit and I didnt have money to spend on an intel processor. there is no reason to be an ass. im new to this kind of stuff
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2011 01:14 GMT
#17
How was I being an ass? I don't see anything halfway offensive in what I said... And I can see you are new to this, what I don't get is how you didn't check the computer here first but come here after you get frame drops. If you think me calling 32bit or the CPU shit is being offensive, well no, that's my objective assessment and has nothing to do with you. My assessment of the computer is also objective.

It could also be a RAM issue but I don't know why 4gb wouldn't be enough, could also be a virus but my best bet is a combination of 32bit and the cpu.


Btw overclock it at least if you bought that cpu or mobo it even might help, you got the overclocking headroom with that PSU at least
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
October 04 2011 01:18 GMT
#18
Sorry for misinterpreting what you were saying. My apologies. Anyway it turned out to be a problem with my mouse. A razor spectre and the APM lighting the patch 1.4.1 fixed it. Also how would I overclock it?
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
malignant
Profile Joined August 2011
United States35 Posts
October 04 2011 01:36 GMT
#19
Good lord. The amount of arrogance in Shikyo's post is just too much for me to stomach.

If you dont know what the guy does with his computer then it might be best to refrain from shitting all over him for choosing 6 cores over faster, similarly price but only 4 cores CPU. To each, his own. Yanno ?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 01:42:42
October 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#20
On October 04 2011 10:36 malignant wrote:
Good lord. The amount of arrogance in Shikyo's post is just too much for me to stomach.

If you dont know what the guy does with his computer then it might be best to refrain from shitting all over him for choosing 6 cores over faster, similarly price but only 4 cores CPU. To each, his own. Yanno ?

yeah sure, now please go be helpful to someone before complaining about the way I post.

And it pierces my soul that someone would get a 1050W PSU for a 560 Ti SLi, now I guess you're the kind of a person who doesn't mind his friend paying twice the amount he needs for something just because he doesn't know better and don't say anything to him because "that'd be mean", if his next computer is properly built because of what I've said you know who's been more useful.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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