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Who will win IEM Katowice 2024?

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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net133 Posts
January 25 2024 21:23 GMT
#1
Discussion thread for front page poll: "Who will win IEM Katowice 2024?"
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
January 25 2024 21:59 GMT
#2
i mean, the objectively correctly pick HAS to be Serral. Not a guarantee he will win, but it'd be crazy to argue that any individual person is more likely than him to win it all.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33509 Posts
January 25 2024 22:14 GMT
#3
On January 26 2024 06:59 angry_maia wrote:
i mean, the objectively correctly pick HAS to be Serral. Not a guarantee he will win, but it'd be crazy to argue that any individual person is more likely than him to win it all.


Checked betting site to see what the odds are like, and Serral has around 30% implied win chance. That's pretty crazy for a single player in a 24-player pool! But Clem was not that far behind with second best odds... I feel like people's feelings will shift depending on how masters coliseum goes.
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-25 23:00:36
January 25 2024 22:59 GMT
#4
Voted Serral, but given Serral vs the field, I would pick the field. A 30-40% chance of winning feels right for Serral. Surprised that Clem has such high odds in the betting market, while Clem has finally won an offline tournament I'm not 100% sold on his TvT yet.
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18182 Posts
January 25 2024 23:00 GMT
#5
On January 26 2024 07:14 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 06:59 angry_maia wrote:
i mean, the objectively correctly pick HAS to be Serral. Not a guarantee he will win, but it'd be crazy to argue that any individual person is more likely than him to win it all.


Checked betting site to see what the odds are like, and Serral has around 30% implied win chance. That's pretty crazy for a single player in a 24-player pool! But Clem was not that far behind with second best odds... I feel like people's feelings will shift depending on how masters coliseum goes.

Clean sweeps over his toughest rival of 2023, the GOAT and his teammate make a pretty strong case regardless of who he faces in the finals and which way it goes. I'd also agree that right now it looks like his only real opponent is Clem. And Clem seems to have plenty of problems still (despite his utter domination of WTL).
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1249 Posts
January 25 2024 23:53 GMT
#6
I picked Serral, but it isn't a "he will win it or it is the biggest upset ever"-pick. Just most likely, especially after his rise in the Colisseum.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
January 25 2024 23:54 GMT
#7
Is Dark still competing overseas? Feels like he's been in "final tournament before service" for a while.

Either way, Serral is probably 50%, with Clem, Reynor, and Maru splitting the other half. With some miracle bracket luck it's possible herO, Cure, or Oliveira take it, but it would be like 100/1.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
rwala
Profile Joined December 2019
327 Posts
January 26 2024 01:36 GMT
#8
On January 26 2024 07:14 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 06:59 angry_maia wrote:
i mean, the objectively correctly pick HAS to be Serral. Not a guarantee he will win, but it'd be crazy to argue that any individual person is more likely than him to win it all.


Checked betting site to see what the odds are like, and Serral has around 30% implied win chance. That's pretty crazy for a single player in a 24-player pool! But Clem was not that far behind with second best odds... I feel like people's feelings will shift depending on how masters coliseum goes.


Yeah that’s high. I haven’t done stats since college but I’m pretty sure even if you assigned Serral an 80% chance of winning every match you wouldn’t get to 30% odds of winning the tourney.


Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
January 26 2024 01:49 GMT
#9
Agree with the general sense that Serral is the most likely, but it won't be shocking if it isn't him. For some reason I'm kinda feelin' Dark at the moment.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
BonitiilloO
Profile Joined June 2013
Dominican Republic627 Posts
January 26 2024 01:52 GMT
#10
Serral almost perfect defends can make it happen, now i wish someone figure out his play and outsmart him
How may help u?
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
January 26 2024 02:12 GMT
#11
Goat Serral winning via the hardest path as usual
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-01-26 02:24:32
January 26 2024 02:24 GMT
#12
On January 26 2024 10:36 rwala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 07:14 Waxangel wrote:
On January 26 2024 06:59 angry_maia wrote:
i mean, the objectively correctly pick HAS to be Serral. Not a guarantee he will win, but it'd be crazy to argue that any individual person is more likely than him to win it all.


Checked betting site to see what the odds are like, and Serral has around 30% implied win chance. That's pretty crazy for a single player in a 24-player pool! But Clem was not that far behind with second best odds... I feel like people's feelings will shift depending on how masters coliseum goes.


Yeah that’s high. I haven’t done stats since college but I’m pretty sure even if you assigned Serral an 80% chance of winning every match you wouldn’t get to 30% odds of winning the tourney.




Luckily for Serral he has at least a 95% win chance against every player in his group besides Byun and even Byun is probably like 80%. Still can't believe how the groups worked out especially group D.


Voted Maru, mostly out of blind hope than true belief he will win. Hopefully his loss to Serral today was purposely playing off meta to give Serral less practice before Kato.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3449 Posts
January 26 2024 02:57 GMT
#13
I mean, didnt we just have this very conservation before Atlanta/Gamers8, its always Serral vs. the field until he got knocked out by someone in the bracket.
And I expect Maru/Clem would give Serral the most challenge, assuming Maru stop playing like he did from yesterday with those weird Mech/Banshee opening and mine drop. There is also the ZvZ side of thing, I am pretty sure they will do weird shit in the tournament as well. While Serral seems impervious to most cheese thrown at him so far, that wont be all he has to face in IEM bracket.
bulldozer06701
Profile Joined July 2019
139 Posts
January 26 2024 05:50 GMT
#14
Some zerg of course. I would be surprised if runner-up wasn't z either. Hopefully P and T give zergs a run for their money though and we get entertaining games at least
luxon
Profile Joined August 2012
United States114 Posts
January 26 2024 06:11 GMT
#15
after watching today's games it's gotta be serral. completely outclassed maru and on a good day he beats clem. only reynor/zergs can take him if he gets unlucky. and jesus after watching how poorly herO and maxpax played, any protoss would be lucky to reach ro16.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
January 26 2024 07:37 GMT
#16
Voted with my heart for Maru but I believe it’s 40% Serral, 20% Reynor, 10% Dark, 10% Clem, 10% Maru and 10% for the rest combined, with Cure, herO and Solar as the most likely (or if Oliveira makes another incredible miracle happen somehow)

Still exciting depending on bracket and if there are as crazy upsets as last year!
WriterMaru
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4958 Posts
January 26 2024 07:46 GMT
#17
On January 26 2024 11:12 TossHeroes wrote:
Goat Serral winning via the hardest path as usual


I mean, he got the weakest group.
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Neptuneajax
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia206 Posts
January 26 2024 08:00 GMT
#18
I think the real question is: Who can beat Serral?
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1382 Posts
January 26 2024 08:33 GMT
#19
Serral is definitely the favourite, but the only guarantee is that it won't be a Protoss!

I'm of course hoping this has the same affect as an Artosis curse.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7028 Posts
January 26 2024 09:56 GMT
#20
On January 26 2024 16:46 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2024 11:12 TossHeroes wrote:
Goat Serral winning via the hardest path as usual


I mean, he got the weakest group.


I mean, he got the highest seed
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