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I Was Wrong About Maru - Page 3

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oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
April 04 2018 21:35 GMT
#41
good read
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
April 04 2018 21:42 GMT
#42
On April 05 2018 03:45 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2018 08:21 Mizenhauer wrote:
Not wrong in my logic, of course. After all, I had watched hundreds of games and thousands of hours of StarCraft II, and I knew how things worked.

It seems wrong to disregard Maru of the basis of how other players tend to peak and fall-off. Like him or not, he's still one of the biggest phenomenons of sc2. Neither his gameplay or results have ever followed the norm.

Plus even at his worst he's still capable of beating anyone. People say his 2016 was tragic but he had the greatest proleague run of all time, as well as some of the worst GSL bracket luck of all time. His 2017 was lackluster but but he still had his share of amazing games in there.


Yup, he usually get the worst bracket ever in GSl, except for the last one :D
Executer08
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany163 Posts
April 04 2018 22:11 GMT
#43
Reserved and humble during interviews, he asserted himself with an ‘I don’t give a s@$t’ attitude once the game began


reserved yes, but humble? i rather think that he actually doesnt give a s@$t about interviews and is more introvert and taciturn than humble. if it wasnt for that rogue interview and his wrist issues, i would have even said that all those interviews after wins where he rates himself 6/10 or sth like that make him cocky, but all things considered it does make sense he feels that way.

overall nice article, i can definitely empathize with a lot of the expressed feelings :D always loved maru and his playstyle and was very sad when he slacked in individual leagues in lotv.
especially with what rogue said (which i can totally imagine to be true and a big factor, wrist issues aside) i cant help but think of life. also a unique aggressive style, eventually rounded out by according macro, best of his race / in the world at times, but then gets complacent and falls off for months. their rivlary is the cherry on top of this thought^^
lets hope that maru keeps up the practice and also with the help of his teammates stays on top!

i also disagree with a lot of comments in this thread or dont like their tone, but i'm not in the mood to argue :^)
"You have the image of being a robotic, stoic player among foreign fans. What do you think about that?" - "I don’t think it’s incorrect." || letodSWAG
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
April 05 2018 00:45 GMT
#44
Great write up, Little guy's shining hard for sure.
XK ßubonic
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
April 05 2018 01:15 GMT
#45
Maru is a legend. Appreciate the effort that goes into most TL stories..this one included.. so please take this as constructive critisicm. When I see a headline about Maru I get hyped and will read it 100%. I know the title had "I" in it so I shouldnt be surprised...but my opinion if you are going to use Maru in the headline to generate interest in the article it should be way more about Maru and way less about the writer..not trying to be rude or inappreciative of the content but its a bit of a trend now.
Shinryus
Profile Joined November 2015
Germany13 Posts
April 05 2018 06:43 GMT
#46
Nice article. I can relate a lot to the mentioned feelings when it comes to Maru, tbh. Very happy for him and I'm still somewhat astonished at just how good he plays by now.

But I just really want to say that your writing has improved a lot, Mizenhauer! Keep going, I really liked this one.

And since I have seen a few comments wondering why this isn't a blog or something, I feel the need to point out that this article was labeled as a column. After all, Mizen has already written about players/tournaments in a more critical way in the past, so I guess you can call all these a column. As far as I know, the definition of a column contains that the written article always voices an opinion, so they will naturally be more personal. Like it was done here where Mizen just told his own experience with Maru from a fan's perspective. I guess in our modern age people would usually label it as a blog post, yes, but it's not wrong to post it as an article of a column either. Just saying. ^-^
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 02:00:28
April 06 2018 01:53 GMT
#47
I feel exactly as Mize about Maru, having had been watching him for years, except for one thing: I never stopped believing he would win GSL. Never. Ever.
kallagen
Profile Joined November 2016
Russian Federation13 Posts
September 16 2018 00:29 GMT
#48
We all was very wrong about Maru.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 16 2018 01:50 GMT
#49
Mizen confirmed weak fan. First ditched Maru, now soO.
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 02:02:36
September 16 2018 02:02 GMT
#50
On September 16 2018 09:29 kallagen wrote:
We all was very wrong about Maru.

But not me.
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
September 16 2018 02:13 GMT
#51
On September 16 2018 10:50 Phredxor wrote:
Mizen confirmed weak fan. First ditched Maru, now soO.

As a fan of tragedies, even I have a hard time watching soO at this point.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17877 Posts
September 16 2018 02:34 GMT
#52
Maru needs his own entrance music. i propose the Space Odyssey 2001 movie theme.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
September 16 2018 09:08 GMT
#53
On September 16 2018 11:34 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Maru needs his own entrance music. i propose the Space Odyssey 2001 movie theme.


Nah, use his Proleague Taylor Swift theme. Matches his Barbie wrist supports.
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
September 16 2018 09:16 GMT
#54
Rising up, back on the street. Did my time, took my chances...
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 14:29:34
September 16 2018 14:25 GMT
#55
Great writing, it's good to see it from a fans perspective. I've always liked Maru because he's on Jin Air. But to a serious question, who is the best Jin Air player now? Maru has three GSL's in a row, but sOs has two blizzcons. And Maru has 6 titles, but sOs has 5 with two more finals appearance
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 16 2018 14:27 GMT
#56
On September 16 2018 23:25 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
So, who is the best Jin Air player now? Maru has three GSL's in a row, but sOs has two blizzcons. And Maru has 6 titles, but sOs has 5 with two more finals appearances.


Cure
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CaptainBurnTurn
Profile Joined February 2018
United States80 Posts
September 16 2018 14:30 GMT
#57
On September 16 2018 23:27 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 23:25 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:
So, who is the best Jin Air player now? Maru has three GSL's in a row, but sOs has two blizzcons. And Maru has 6 titles, but sOs has 5 with two more finals appearances.


Cure


Lol, what? Blindsided me there.
Mark my words, sOs will win a GSL one day
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 16 2018 14:36 GMT
#58
On September 16 2018 23:25 CaptainBurnTurn wrote:But to a serious question, who is the best Jin Air player now? Maru has three GSL's in a row, but sOs has two blizzcons. And Maru has 6 titles, but sOs has 5 with two more finals appearance

5 starleagues to 0. It's not even close unless you value blizzcon to some ridiculous degree.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-16 14:43:22
September 16 2018 14:43 GMT
#59
The potential Blizzcon groups could result in neither Serral or Maru advancing to the play offs, or meeting early, I'm starting to think the dream finals is unlikely.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16095 Posts
September 16 2018 14:43 GMT
#60
On September 16 2018 23:43 Zzoram wrote:
The potential Blizzcon groups could result in neither Serral or Maru advancing to the play offs, or meeting early, I'm starting to think the dream finals is unlikely.

which group could result in Maru getting knocked out?
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