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rrrzzz
Profile Joined February 2016
48 Posts
July 19 2017 15:04 GMT
#21
What happened to Maru? He looks really out of shape compared to 2015/2016
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1960 Posts
July 19 2017 15:10 GMT
#22
On July 20 2017 00:04 rrrzzz wrote:
What happened to Maru? He looks really out of shape compared to 2015/2016


You mean 2013-2015?
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washikie
Profile Joined February 2011
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-19 15:25:43
July 19 2017 15:25 GMT
#23
On July 20 2017 00:04 rrrzzz wrote:
What happened to Maru? He looks really out of shape compared to 2015/2016


I think part of it is that viable Terran styles have changed over the years but Maru's style hasnt. It's especially notable in his tvp he keeps trying to constantly medivac droing his opponents but with the current protoss styles there just arnt many holes to exploit in the midgame stoping phase. Often I see him just lose all the units and kill like 100-150 minerals worth of stuff in return. It hurts man I love maru's drop heavy style but drop heavy styles don't work well in tvp since phonix adept became dominant in the meta, they don't work well in tvz since the queen range buff and they don't work well in tvt outside of doom drops. Terran is much more focused around big front on pushes or small harass to pick at the edges than it used to be.
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rrrzzz
Profile Joined February 2016
48 Posts
July 19 2017 15:34 GMT
#24
On July 20 2017 00:25 washikie wrote:
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On July 20 2017 00:04 rrrzzz wrote:
What happened to Maru? He looks really out of shape compared to 2015/2016


I think part of it is that viable Terran styles have changed over the years but Maru's style hasnt. It's especially notable in his tvp he keeps trying to constantly medivac droing his opponents but with the current protoss styles there just arnt many holes to exploit in the midgame stoping phase. Often I see him just lose all the units and kill like 100-150 minerals worth of stuff in return. It hurts man I love maru's drop heavy style but drop heavy styles don't work well in tvp since phonix adept became dominant in the meta, they don't work well in tvz since the queen range buff and they don't work well in tvt outside of doom drops. Terran is much more focused around big front on pushes or small harass to pick at the edges than it used to be.

good point. I remember vividly 2015 maru vs myunsik where he made no single viking to beat a phoenix colossus combo and myunsik cried after losing the game
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1960 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-19 16:26:45
July 19 2017 15:43 GMT
#25
On July 20 2017 00:25 washikie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2017 00:04 rrrzzz wrote:
What happened to Maru? He looks really out of shape compared to 2015/2016


I think part of it is that viable Terran styles have changed over the years but Maru's style hasnt. It's especially notable in his tvp he keeps trying to constantly medivac droing his opponents but with the current protoss styles there just arnt many holes to exploit in the midgame stoping phase. Often I see him just lose all the units and kill like 100-150 minerals worth of stuff in return. It hurts man I love maru's drop heavy style but drop heavy styles don't work well in tvp since phonix adept became dominant in the meta, they don't work well in tvz since the queen range buff and they don't work well in tvt outside of doom drops. Terran is much more focused around big front on pushes or small harass to pick at the edges than it used to be.


LotV killed Maru's TvP. He will never return to the level he was at in HotS. At least in that particular matchup.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-07-20 05:46:06
July 20 2017 05:44 GMT
#26
TvP these days definitely seems to smile upon Terran doing big timings and straight pushes instead of lots of drops like Maru likes to. Also probably why INnoVation is doing so well compared to historically. Though TY plays fairly drop-heavy as well and seems to manage just fine, but that might be more due to his lategame TvP control being second to none.
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