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ThunderJunk
United States729 Posts
ruypture said, ryung vs soo finals would be the greatest ever loved both of them for a long time Ryung is hoping TvP for sure. Stats is absurdly good right now though. Ryung vs sOs I estimate at 30% Ryung to take it in a Bo5, but 0% against Stats. Stats 3-0 Ryung. sOs 3-1 soo. There's a certain poetry to sOs cleaning house in 2 games, and having 2 long ones resulting in 3-1. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On February 26 2017 06:35 ThunderJunk wrote: Ryung is hoping TvP for sure. Stats is absurdly good right now though. Ryung vs sOs I estimate at 30% Ryung to take it in a Bo5, but 0% against Stats. Stats 3-0 Ryung. sOs 3-1 soo. There's a certain poetry to sOs cleaning house in 2 games, and having 2 long ones resulting in 3-1. First of all, semis are Bo7  | ||
Mizenhauer
United States1923 Posts
In fact, over the past 2 years Maru was far better in Proleague then sOs (barring the playoffs). | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
I am mainly referring to Maru's individual tournament achievements. He really need to step up to represent JA more often, I'm not asking him to get a offline champion every year like sOs did, but he should at least go to semis in GSL for example. | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
On February 26 2017 03:35 Ja.Y. wrote: I miss Wolf + Valdes. I really enjoyed that combination. I do hope Ryung wins it all but wouldn't mind seeing Stats or soO win either! Of course Wolf!!! How could I have forgotten! | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On February 26 2017 05:26 TheLittleOtter wrote: Well, Maru really has done a lot of work in PL. sOs is not alone there; I'd even say that Maru is a bigger PL player than sOs I'm sure Maru won a lot of games during regular season, but sOs not only win games for JA but also contributed as a coach, in other words, he can help those "weaker" JA players become stronger and smarter (I have read a lot of post-game interviews talking about how sOs taught them to play against Protoss or a specific player from Trap, Cure, Rogue). Maru is a great player, but he is not a great leader as sOs. Of course this has something to do with age, but I think it's more about responsibility. From this match vs Ryung, I still don't see his mental toughness is reaching sOs' level to be responsible enough to lead this JA team in the near future if sOs retired. In the pre-game interview Maru said he was envied by sOs after seeing him in the final last season and he will prepare hard for this match vs Ryung, but the result is certainly not as he or a lot of people expected. I really think Maru's skill should bring him much more offline champions than sOs, but the situation is exactly opposite, he seriously needs to make some adjustments mentally. | ||
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VavPK
United States196 Posts
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Togekiss
Canada154 Posts
Maru's abundance of mistakes cost him the series vs Ryung, not superior play from Ryung. The game on Whirlwind for example. Poor sensor tower placement is what cost Maru the game. I will give credit where credit is due - Ryung took advantage of Maru never sufficiently fixing the issue, and Maru was punished over and over again, eventually losing his production as a result of simply not having a few turrets/adding another sensor tower to compensate for the misplaced original one. Again, I'm not trying to imply in any way at all that Ryung didn't deserve to beat Maru, although the amount of control mistakes and poor decisions Maru made throughout the series was completely out of character. Any sensible person that has watched his GSL run up until last night would have to agree that his wins looked almost effortless at the level he had been playing recently. Maru overhyped some say? I simply respond "No" - he just tends to underperform when it counts most, and this is why it hurts his fans so much knowing what he's truly capable of. I will end here by saying this. INnoVation, TY, and ByuN have also failed to make it to the Ro4 this season of GSL, so why the intense distaste and slander towards Maru and his supporters? | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 26 2017 10:44 Togekiss wrote: People "Overhype" Maru because when he plays to his potential he is neigh untouchable. Personally I don't understand the recent malice towards Maru and his fans. There is a reason the JAGW coaches would indicate Maru's skill at a maximum possible rating in PL when the visual ratings were displayed before matches. sOs was the only other player on JAGW to get the max skill rating from the coaches - and rightfully so. I have only seen Maru streaming live once, and honestly as a Terran fan, I was much more impressed with Maru's surgical speed and precision when compared to the likes of ByuN or INnoVation. I'm obviously not saying he is clearly better than the above mentioned, but when he's on point I would still consider him a contender as the best Terran out there. Maru's abundance of mistakes cost him the series vs Ryung, not superior play from Ryung. The game on Whirlwind for example. Poor sensor tower placement is what cost Maru the game. I will give credit where credit is due - Ryung took advantage of Maru never sufficiently fixing the issue, and Maru was punished over and over again, eventually losing his production as a result of simply not having a few turrets/adding another sensor tower to compensate for the misplaced original one. Again, I'm not trying to imply in any way at all that Ryung didn't deserve to beat Maru, although the amount of control mistakes and poor decisions Maru made throughout the series was completely out of character. Any sensible person that has watched his GSL run up until last night would have to agree that his wins looked almost effortless at the level he had been playing recently. Maru overhyped some say? I simply respond "No" - he just tends to underperform when it counts most, and this is why it hurts his fans so much knowing what he's truly capable of. I will end here by saying this. INnoVation, TY, and ByuN have also failed to make it to the Ro4 this season of GSL, so why the intense distaste and slander towards Maru and his supporters? Because Maru hasn't done anything in individual tournaments for over 2 years probably. | ||
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ParksonVN
Australia370 Posts
On February 26 2017 00:40 Alarak89 wrote: sOs has been carried this JA team for such a long time in both Proleague and individual tournaments achievement, from bottom to champion and now he is in GSL semi for four years. Maru, you really need to step up in individual tournaments to carry JA, otherwise sOs cannot retire and pass this great team to you, future is not belonging to you yet. I would not say Maru is bad in individual league. Remember he won 2 Starleague, which SOS has none. And more than that, he was one of very few Terran could perfom well in the Blink era, i remember he almost cried when eliminated by a Protoss at ro8 GSL (he the last Terran left in the tournament). | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On February 26 2017 10:59 ParksonVN wrote: I would not say Maru is bad in individual league. Remember he won 2 Starleague, which SOS has none. And more than that, he was one of very few Terran could perfom well in the Blink era, i remember he almost cried when eliminated by a Protoss at ro8 GSL (he the last Terran left in the tournament). First of all, I didn't say Maru is bad in individual tournaments either, I said he should perform better according to his skills. Second of all, we are talking about "individual tournaments", not "starleague tournaments" here. Yes, Maru had two and only two individual (starleague) tournament titles, but I don't think I need to list how many premier and major titles sOs had before, right? By saying Maru has starleague tilte and sOs has none doesn't set up an excuse to ignore Maru's individual tournaments performance is still under expectation. Third of all, by saying "perform well", you need to quantify your words either by offline titles, offline win rates or something else that is more straightforward and intuitive for us to see, otherwise I can say every SC2 player "performs well" during his career IMO. Lastly, the purpose of my words is not comparing sOs and Maru, it is about white wishes and advises for Maru to be better in the future individual tournaments since he is still young. If you are a true Maru fan, I consider it's more important to reflect on the fault he made in individual league for him instead of keep saying he is still good. I mean, it's just not persuasive at all. | ||
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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KaijuHK
22 Posts
He definitely has the motivation this year, can see him doing the triple and beating MC and Life as the highest earning SC2 player of all time. | ||
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Alarak89
United States882 Posts
On February 26 2017 15:49 KaijuHK wrote: sOs won the global finals in 2013 and 2015, perhaps he just likes taking a year off to spend his 100k! He definitely has the motivation this year, can see him doing the triple and beating MC and Life as the highest earning SC2 player of all time. He will be the highest earning SC player of all time if he wins Blizzcon this year, means he will pass Flash and JD as well. But let's pay attention to this season's GSL first, although he is already in a good spot in terms of points atm, I still want him to take this GSL title to guarantee a Blizzcon spot. Like he always says in the interview, don't look too far beyond, concentrate on what you have in hands right now. | ||
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anbiribabo
4 Posts
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Vedeynevin
United States431 Posts
On February 26 2017 10:44 Togekiss wrote: People "Overhype" Maru because when he plays to his potential he is neigh untouchable. Personally I don't understand the recent malice towards Maru and his fans. There is a reason the JAGW coaches would indicate Maru's skill at a maximum possible rating in PL when the visual ratings were displayed before matches. sOs was the only other player on JAGW to get the max skill rating from the coaches - and rightfully so. I have only seen Maru streaming live once, and honestly as a Terran fan, I was much more impressed with Maru's surgical speed and precision when compared to the likes of ByuN or INnoVation. I'm obviously not saying he is clearly better than the above mentioned, but when he's on point I would still consider him a contender as the best Terran out there. Maru's abundance of mistakes cost him the series vs Ryung, not superior play from Ryung. The game on Whirlwind for example. Poor sensor tower placement is what cost Maru the game. I will give credit where credit is due - Ryung took advantage of Maru never sufficiently fixing the issue, and Maru was punished over and over again, eventually losing his production as a result of simply not having a few turrets/adding another sensor tower to compensate for the misplaced original one. Again, I'm not trying to imply in any way at all that Ryung didn't deserve to beat Maru, although the amount of control mistakes and poor decisions Maru made throughout the series was completely out of character. Any sensible person that has watched his GSL run up until last night would have to agree that his wins looked almost effortless at the level he had been playing recently. Maru overhyped some say? I simply respond "No" - he just tends to underperform when it counts most, and this is why it hurts his fans so much knowing what he's truly capable of. I will end here by saying this. INnoVation, TY, and ByuN have also failed to make it to the Ro4 this season of GSL, so why the intense distaste and slander towards Maru and his supporters? Maru made more mistakes, so Ryung had superior play. | ||
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation400 Posts
so many complains but the site owners don't care. | ||
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kajtarp
Hungary487 Posts
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lestye
United States4208 Posts
On February 26 2017 19:19 kajtarp wrote: yeah it would be so much better if they just used "Code S Ro8 Round 2 Results" or something similar. Why is this even an issue? Don't we have antispoiler technology now? | ||
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