• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:19
CET 06:19
KST 14:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!42$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker? BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Learning my new SC2 hotkey…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1303 users

[WCS] Spring Championship DH Tours Bracket - Page 3

Forum Index > SC2 General
67 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
May 04 2016 21:15 GMT
#41
On May 05 2016 06:13 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 06:02 Soularion wrote:
Just some random thoughts and things.

Closest Match : PtitDrogo vs Bunny
Upset I'd Bet On : puCK/MaSa reaching Ro8, maybe even Ro4
Easiest Bracket : Harstem
Hardest Bracket : Nerchio (Seriously, who the fuck are you pissing off?) [Neeb is basically tied, but I feel like Neeb vs Hydra is a pretty good matchup for Neeb all things considered. If he's in form, he'll make Ro8 without many problems. Same could be said for Nerchio, though.]
Weirdest Possible Upset : Guru > Snute (Bails > Hydra is weirder, but basically impossible)
Most Likely to Disappoint : Neeb :c

Well I must piss off God since the brackets are random, they are random RIGHT?

Very random
Chain 1 Arthalion Chain 2 Urgula Chain 3 Mululu Chain 4 Lukias
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 04 2016 21:22 GMT
#42
On May 05 2016 06:13 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 06:02 Soularion wrote:
Just some random thoughts and things.

Closest Match : PtitDrogo vs Bunny
Upset I'd Bet On : puCK/MaSa reaching Ro8, maybe even Ro4
Easiest Bracket : Harstem
Hardest Bracket : Nerchio (Seriously, who the fuck are you pissing off?) [Neeb is basically tied, but I feel like Neeb vs Hydra is a pretty good matchup for Neeb all things considered. If he's in form, he'll make Ro8 without many problems. Same could be said for Nerchio, though.]
Weirdest Possible Upset : Guru > Snute (Bails > Hydra is weirder, but basically impossible)
Most Likely to Disappoint : Neeb :c

Well I must piss off God since the brackets are random, they are random RIGHT?

clearly a conspiracy
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
May 04 2016 21:37 GMT
#43
One uThermal to rule them all!!!
Really sad no loser's bracket :'(
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 04 2016 21:53 GMT
#44
On May 05 2016 06:37 Jj_82 wrote:
One uThermal to rule them all!!!
Really sad no loser's bracket :'(

I honestly think he could give Polt a fight, but him winning would be pretty ridiculous.
Writermaru pls
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
May 04 2016 22:00 GMT
#45
PREDICTIONS
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 32] +
(T)Polt vs. (P)Strange
(T)uThermal vs. (Z)iAsonu
(P)Has vs. (T)Happy (SHOULD BE A SICK SERIES)
(Z)Elazer vs. (T)XY
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)VortiX
(Z)FireCake vs. (Z)Scarlett
(P)Neeb vs. (P)Lilbow
(Z)Hydra vs. (P)Bails

(Z)Snute vs. (Z)Guru
(Z)SortOf vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (T)iaguz
(Z)viOLet vs. (Z)JimRising
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)Bunny
(P)puCK vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (Z)Cham
(P)Harstem vs. (P)Jim


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 16] +

(T)Polt vs. (T)uThermal
(P)Has vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs (Z)FireCake
(P)Neeb vs. (Z)Hydra (Will be really close)

(Z)Snute vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (Z)viOLet
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)Hydra

(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)viOLet
(T)MaSa vs (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 4 and Finals] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Nerchio
(P)ShoWTimE vs. (P)Harstem

(Z)Nerchio vs (P)ShoWTimE
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 04 2016 22:23 GMT
#46
On May 05 2016 07:00 vult wrote:
PREDICTIONS
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 32] +
(T)Polt vs. (P)Strange
(T)uThermal vs. (Z)iAsonu
(P)Has vs. (T)Happy (SHOULD BE A SICK SERIES)
(Z)Elazer vs. (T)XY
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)VortiX
(Z)FireCake vs. (Z)Scarlett
(P)Neeb vs. (P)Lilbow
(Z)Hydra vs. (P)Bails

(Z)Snute vs. (Z)Guru
(Z)SortOf vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (T)iaguz
(Z)viOLet vs. (Z)JimRising
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)Bunny
(P)puCK vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (Z)Cham
(P)Harstem vs. (P)Jim


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 16] +

(T)Polt vs. (T)uThermal
(P)Has vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs (Z)FireCake
(P)Neeb vs. (Z)Hydra (Will be really close)

(Z)Snute vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (Z)viOLet
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)Hydra

(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)viOLet
(T)MaSa vs (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 4 and Finals] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Nerchio
(P)ShoWTimE vs. (P)Harstem

(Z)Nerchio vs (P)ShoWTimE

that's pretty bold. Harstem losing
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
May 04 2016 22:26 GMT
#47
This is great! 3 Chinese players and 3 Canadian players. Hope they go far.
very illegal and very uncool
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 22:33:47
May 04 2016 22:31 GMT
#48
On May 05 2016 07:23 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 07:00 vult wrote:
PREDICTIONS
+ Show Spoiler [Round of 32] +
(T)Polt vs. (P)Strange
(T)uThermal vs. (Z)iAsonu
(P)Has vs. (T)Happy (SHOULD BE A SICK SERIES)
(Z)Elazer vs. (T)XY
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)VortiX
(Z)FireCake vs. (Z)Scarlett
(P)Neeb vs. (P)Lilbow
(Z)Hydra vs. (P)Bails

(Z)Snute vs. (Z)Guru
(Z)SortOf vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (T)iaguz
(Z)viOLet vs. (Z)JimRising
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)Bunny
(P)puCK vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (Z)Cham
(P)Harstem vs. (P)Jim


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 16] +

(T)Polt vs. (T)uThermal
(P)Has vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs (Z)FireCake
(P)Neeb vs. (Z)Hydra (Will be really close)

(Z)Snute vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)HuK vs. (Z)viOLet
(P)PtitDrogo vs. (T)MaSa
(Z)Bly vs. (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 8] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Elazer
(Z)Nerchio vs. (Z)Hydra

(P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)viOLet
(T)MaSa vs (P)Harstem


+ Show Spoiler [Round of 4 and Finals] +

(T)Polt vs. (Z)Nerchio
(P)ShoWTimE vs. (P)Harstem

(Z)Nerchio vs (P)ShoWTimE

that's pretty bold. Harstem losing


I've been known to be pretty bold, especially when I'm betting against the #milleniumofharstem, or for betting against my favorite player Polt
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
seemsgood
Profile Joined January 2016
5527 Posts
May 04 2016 22:39 GMT
#49
Poor happy
Iaguz vs Has is better.
Sogetsu
Profile Joined July 2011
514 Posts
May 04 2016 23:18 GMT
#50
On May 05 2016 01:49 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 01:39 Shellshock wrote:
you guys are all assuming Neeb will make it past the French God Lilbow

...he's training for SC3 so it should not be so hard for Neeb...


Hahaha man that made my day, it was soo good, and I agree.
Raptor: "Es hora de salvar a los E-Sports..." http://i3.minus.com/ibtne3liprtByB.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
May 05 2016 00:42 GMT
#51
On May 05 2016 08:18 Sogetsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 01:49 CynicalDeath wrote:
On May 05 2016 01:39 Shellshock wrote:
you guys are all assuming Neeb will make it past the French God Lilbow

...he's training for SC3 so it should not be so hard for Neeb...


Hahaha man that made my day, it was soo good, and I agree.

never heard that joke before :D made my day too
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 04:07:34
May 05 2016 02:18 GMT
#52
On May 05 2016 06:13 Charoisaur wrote:
Not sure I'll get used to "Team Envyus" Polt.

From OptimusPrime to EnvyusPolt, Things are surely changing over the years.
patelj
Profile Joined May 2016
1 Post
May 05 2016 02:32 GMT
#53
Neeb is part of Team Ting. Just to let you know
Vetch
Profile Joined April 2016
China3 Posts
May 05 2016 05:21 GMT
#54
Oh my Jim,can you beat the new champion Harstem ?
christophequirion
Profile Joined October 2009
France82 Posts
May 05 2016 06:06 GMT
#55
Lilbow is not so impressive vsP this days no ?
Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1196 Posts
May 05 2016 10:28 GMT
#56
I'm glad that there is only one more of there WCS Championship type of events planned (Summer Champ) because this plain single elimination tournament is not a good way to award the biggest prizes in the foreign SC2 scene.

Single elimination is meant to find a single winner, and all placements below it are unclear. The winner might have knocked the 2nd best out in Ro32 but we never know. The same can also happen in any of the match-ups (2nd place defeats true 3rd in ro16, etc). So the prize money and WCS points below the winner are distributed rather randomly dictated by bracket-luck and seeding based largely on these very same random results. With enough events the randomness would even out but there are only three Championships in a year.

The single elimination has its pros too: it's fast, every match counts, the luck factor creates surprising results (or stories as the production calls them). But these benefits don't overweight the cons when it's the format of the most important event in the foreign scene.

Of course the most fair way would be a full round-robin (all vs all) but there is no time for that and it's very anti-hype and thus unfit for a show-type event. So let us use the GSL format (two double elim. groups followed by a single elim. bracket) which is superior in terms of defining the true placements of the competitors even though it also can suffer from bad seeding. Please?
starcraft2.fi
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28501 Posts
May 05 2016 10:32 GMT
#57
EnVyUs has this
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
May 05 2016 10:46 GMT
#58
On May 05 2016 19:28 Azhrak wrote:
I'm glad that there is only one more of there WCS Championship type of events planned (Summer Champ) because this plain single elimination tournament is not a good way to award the biggest prizes in the foreign SC2 scene.

Single elimination is meant to find a single winner, and all placements below it are unclear. The winner might have knocked the 2nd best out in Ro32 but we never know. The same can also happen in any of the match-ups (2nd place defeats true 3rd in ro16, etc). So the prize money and WCS points below the winner are distributed rather randomly dictated by bracket-luck and seeding based largely on these very same random results. With enough events the randomness would even out but there are only three Championships in a year.

The single elimination has its pros too: it's fast, every match counts, the luck factor creates surprising results (or stories as the production calls them). But these benefits don't overweight the cons when it's the format of the most important event in the foreign scene.

Of course the most fair way would be a full round-robin (all vs all) but there is no time for that and it's very anti-hype and thus unfit for a show-type event. So let us use the GSL format (two double elim. groups followed by a single elim. bracket) which is superior in terms of defining the true placements of the competitors even though it also can suffer from bad seeding. Please?

Please
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
May 05 2016 11:07 GMT
#59
On May 05 2016 19:28 Azhrak wrote:
Single elimination is meant to find a single winner, and all placements below it are unclear. The winner might have knocked the 2nd best out in Ro32 but we never know

Yeah, Zest vs. Maru in Code A is no fun at all.
don't wall off against random
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 13:07:52
May 05 2016 13:05 GMT
#60
i dont like the bracket either the seeding is kinda messed up
poor showtime in 2nd round vs snute i was hoping to see him go far he had quite a lot of bracket misfortune the last tourneys but if he beats snute he has a really good shot at the finals so we will see
overall i'd say top half >> lower half

Special Tactics
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
ProLeague - RO32 Group A
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 197
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 20965
PianO 635
sorry 87
Noble 36
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm94
LuMiX2
League of Legends
JimRising 887
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K492
fl0m419
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor110
Other Games
tarik_tv13100
summit1g8259
WinterStarcraft360
ViBE101
goatrope44
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick567
Counter-Strike
PGL105
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 89
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21484
League of Legends
• Jankos996
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4h 41m
WardiTV Korean Royale
6h 41m
LAN Event
9h 41m
ByuN vs Zoun
TBD vs TriGGeR
Clem vs TBD
IPSL
12h 41m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
14h 41m
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
[ Show More ]
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
BSL 21
6 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.