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On May 05 2016 02:29 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:13 Azhrak wrote:The prize pool in Liquipedia differs from the WCS rules and from the previous Winter Championship. Has it changed? I'd prefer the new one because in Winter the ro32 match was the most crucial one albeit the final. 1st 2nd 3rd-4th 5-8th 9-16th 17-32nd
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35k 15k 10k 6k 4k 1.5k (Spring)
35k 15k 10k 8k 6k 0 (Winter) It has changed, since everybody complained about how bad the distribution was before. Qualifying and flying to the tournament only to go home with zero, if you lost to Polt in the first round, really sucked.
Sorry, but this is the core of why WCS gets named as we all know.
You get a free flight + hotel and you even have to win a game to get money? That sucks for real
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we may have multiple tvt
if polt shows his tournament form i think he can cross until the semi final without a lot of troubles
that nerchio/vortix/firecake package though
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On May 05 2016 02:43 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:29 Musicus wrote:On May 05 2016 02:13 Azhrak wrote:The prize pool in Liquipedia differs from the WCS rules and from the previous Winter Championship. Has it changed? I'd prefer the new one because in Winter the ro32 match was the most crucial one albeit the final. 1st 2nd 3rd-4th 5-8th 9-16th 17-32nd
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35k 15k 10k 6k 4k 1.5k (Spring)
35k 15k 10k 8k 6k 0 (Winter) It has changed, since everybody complained about how bad the distribution was before. Qualifying and flying to the tournament only to go home with zero, if you lost to Polt in the first round, really sucked. Sorry, but this is the core of why WCS gets named as we all know. You get a free flight + hotel and you even have to win a game to get money? That sucks for real
Yes only the top 16 getting paid sucks for real. They won plenty of games in the qualifers and callenger.
In the GSL the top 62 gets paid, why is the top 32 getting paid welfare?
For example JD got paid 1,7k for winning a single bo3 against a player called BMW in the GSL qualifiers. Every player that gets top 32 in WCS Championships won way more series than that and absolutely deserves some cash for it.
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I bet Bunny is thanking his luck stars not to be facing Has....iaguz as well I suppose. Best of luck to the bearded beauty 
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Uhg, why to do we have to have this terrible bracket format for such an important tournament? It feels like bracket luck plays a far too large role in who will go far. Also I always find it funny when NA players like masa and puck travel half way around the world just to play against a player they have faced locally so many times XD.
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On May 05 2016 01:39 Shellshock wrote:
you guys are all assuming Neeb will make it past the French God Lilbow
If only neeb could make zerglings...
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Harstem --> Tier 1 seed
Neeb --> Tier 2 seed
It's pretty funny how long you profit from 1 lucky tournament bracket in this fucked up system, same goes for ptitdrogo.
This is almost some old MLG level stuff
At least the round 1 matchups are more balanced than last time, only Nerchio vs VortiX / Neeb vs Lilbow stand out as "why the fuck could this ever happen?"
Too bad the Top 4 players in my mind (Polt, Hydra, Neeb, Nerchio) are on the same half of the bracket.
Oh, and HuK got a freewin in round 1 AGAIN. #LuK
I assume it's single elim? good god, WCS point are NOT an indicator of how good a player is, as 95% of the points are accumlated from SINGLE ELIM BRACKETS in the first place.
blizzard never fails to impress me with their fuck ups with sc2 since late WoL, may it be tournament structure, fixing their game, interacting with the community. the only good thing they did since that time was the LotV developing stage.
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On May 05 2016 04:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Harstem --> Tier 1 seed
Neeb --> Tier 2 seed
It's pretty funny how long you profit from 1 lucky tournament bracket in this fucked up system, same goes for ptitdrogo.
This is almost some old MLG level stuff
At least the round 1 matchups are more balanced than last time, only Nerchio vs VortiX / Neeb vs Lilbow stand out as "why the fuck could this ever happen?"
Too bad the Top 4 players in my mind (Polt, Hydra, Neeb, Nerchio) are on the same half of the bracket.
Oh, and HuK got a freewin in round 1 AGAIN. #LuK
I assume it's single elim? good god, WCS point are NOT an indicator of how good a player is, as 95% of the points are accumlated from SINGLE ELIM BRACKETS in the first place.
blizzard never fails to impress me with their fuck ups with sc2 since late WoL, may it be tournament structure, fixing their game, interacting with the community. the only good thing they did since that time was the LotV developing stage.
And of course he has viOLet round 2 #FuK
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On May 05 2016 03:08 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:43 Clonester wrote:On May 05 2016 02:29 Musicus wrote:On May 05 2016 02:13 Azhrak wrote:The prize pool in Liquipedia differs from the WCS rules and from the previous Winter Championship. Has it changed? I'd prefer the new one because in Winter the ro32 match was the most crucial one albeit the final. 1st 2nd 3rd-4th 5-8th 9-16th 17-32nd
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35k 15k 10k 6k 4k 1.5k (Spring)
35k 15k 10k 8k 6k 0 (Winter) It has changed, since everybody complained about how bad the distribution was before. Qualifying and flying to the tournament only to go home with zero, if you lost to Polt in the first round, really sucked. Sorry, but this is the core of why WCS gets named as we all know. You get a free flight + hotel and you even have to win a game to get money? That sucks for real Yes only the top 16 getting paid sucks for real. They won plenty of games in the qualifers and callenger. In the GSL the top 62 gets paid, why is the top 32 getting paid welfare? For example JD got paid 1,7k for winning a single bo3 against a player called BMW in the GSL qualifiers. Every player that gets top 32 in WCS Championships won way more series than that and absolutely deserves some cash for it.
But this is not a league, it is just a 32 man 3 days weekendevent.
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On May 05 2016 02:42 Taari wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Is there seeding? I find it hard to believe Nerchio/Scarlett/Polt/Hydra/Neeb would all end up on the same side of the bracket if there was
EDIT: I can't read it says seeding was based on points. Also why do we get the Tours bracket now with Austin being in 2 days tbh scarlett is one of the weakest players in the tournament currently and if seeding was a thing she would probably be in the lower 20ies at the moment.
Definitely disagree. Scarlett was top 5 (if not higher) on KR ladder just a few weeks ago and she was attempting to get signed to a kespa team. She has a great chance to do well here.
Side note I think bunny got a really tough draw against drogo.
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On May 05 2016 04:30 KalWarkov wrote:
Harstem --> Tier 1 seed
Neeb --> Tier 2 seed
It's pretty funny how long you profit from 1 lucky tournament bracket in this fucked up system, same goes for ptitdrogo.
This is almost some old MLG level stuff
At least the round 1 matchups are more balanced than last time, only Nerchio vs VortiX / Neeb vs Lilbow stand out as "why the fuck could this ever happen?"
Too bad the Top 4 players in my mind (Polt, Hydra, Neeb, Nerchio) are on the same half of the bracket.
Oh, and HuK got a freewin in round 1 AGAIN. #LuK
I assume it's single elim? good god, WCS point are NOT an indicator of how good a player is, as 95% of the points are accumlated from SINGLE ELIM BRACKETS in the first place.
blizzard never fails to impress me with their fuck ups with sc2 since late WoL, may it be tournament structure, fixing their game, interacting with the community. the only good thing they did since that time was the LotV developing stage.
But you are very biased here since Ptitdrogo had already 2 good results in like 4 tournaments he participated unlike Vortix who had 0. I am not a 100% fan of the system as well but it's not as bad as you make it to be. I got used to getting shit brackets (Showtime/vortix) first round when people like Huk get free wins almost :D
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I thought there was a group stage? Could someone explain, im a little lost now. im at work cant view many pages...
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Neeb vs Lilbow > Neeb vs Hydra > Neeb vs Snute/Vortix/Nerchio.
Really tough bracket.
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United States97277 Posts
On May 05 2016 05:34 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
I thought there was a group stage? Could someone explain, im a little lost now. im at work cant view many pages...
no it's just a single elimination bracket at this event
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On May 05 2016 04:59 Mier19891 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2016 02:42 Taari wrote:On May 05 2016 02:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Is there seeding? I find it hard to believe Nerchio/Scarlett/Polt/Hydra/Neeb would all end up on the same side of the bracket if there was
EDIT: I can't read it says seeding was based on points. Also why do we get the Tours bracket now with Austin being in 2 days tbh scarlett is one of the weakest players in the tournament currently and if seeding was a thing she would probably be in the lower 20ies at the moment. Definitely disagree. Scarlett was top 5 (if not higher) on KR ladder just a few weeks ago and she was attempting to get signed to a kespa team. She has a great chance to do well here. Side note I think bunny got a really tough draw against drogo.
KR ladder isn't as competitive anymore because most KR pros don't ladder anymore because proleague uses other maps. Not saying scarlett is bad though.
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humm... not optimistic for the frenchs
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Canada2764 Posts
Just some random thoughts and things.
Closest Match : PtitDrogo vs Bunny
Upset I'd Bet On : puCK/MaSa reaching Ro8, maybe even Ro4
Easiest Bracket : Harstem
Hardest Bracket : Nerchio (Seriously, who the fuck are you pissing off?) [Neeb is basically tied, but I feel like Neeb vs Hydra is a pretty good matchup for Neeb all things considered. If he's in form, he'll make Ro8 without many problems. Same could be said for Nerchio, though.]
Weirdest Possible Upset : Guru > Snute (Bails > Hydra is weirder, but basically impossible)
Most Likely to Disappoint : Neeb :c
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On May 05 2016 01:34 Clonester wrote:
Neeb got Hydra in Ro16. Rip American hope.
And Polt and Hydra in same bracket? Sad days.
Aligulac predicts even chances in BO3 and BO5
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Not sure I'll get used to "Team Envyus" Polt.
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On May 05 2016 06:02 Soularion wrote:
Just some random thoughts and things.
Closest Match : PtitDrogo vs Bunny
Upset I'd Bet On : puCK/MaSa reaching Ro8, maybe even Ro4
Easiest Bracket : Harstem
Hardest Bracket : Nerchio (Seriously, who the fuck are you pissing off?) [Neeb is basically tied, but I feel like Neeb vs Hydra is a pretty good matchup for Neeb all things considered. If he's in form, he'll make Ro8 without many problems. Same could be said for Nerchio, though.]
Weirdest Possible Upset : Guru > Snute (Bails > Hydra is weirder, but basically impossible)
Most Likely to Disappoint : Neeb :c
Well I must piss off God since the brackets are random, they are random RIGHT?
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