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TheWinks
Profile Joined July 2011
United States572 Posts
December 17 2015 16:30 GMT
#41
On December 17 2015 23:41 Topdoller wrote:
Terran looks under represented, but its hard to judge with these current maps.

Blizzard isn't going to suddenly add a bunch of more standard maps. Expect more of the same going forward.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8245 Posts
December 17 2015 16:35 GMT
#42
7 Protoss, 6 Zergs, and 3 Terrans. The era of Terran dominance is over.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
December 17 2015 16:40 GMT
#43
On December 18 2015 01:35 geokilla wrote:
7 Protoss, 6 Zergs, and 3 Terrans. The era of Terran dominance is over.

Era of Bad Brackets Begins RIP Maru/TY/Reality
Icebound Esports
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-17 16:48:55
December 17 2015 16:48 GMT
#44
Glad to see ByuN make it. He's so good people thought he was cheating. Hopefully him performing offline puts a rest to that.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
December 17 2015 16:51 GMT
#45
On December 18 2015 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 00:44 Swisslink wrote:
Wait...
There are only 2 SSL per year and these 2 seasons are like... 15 series and that's it?
So all the players who do not qualify for GSL and aren't in the top 16, they're just done for half a year? Oo

SSL pretty much downgraded A LOT for next year. This is so horrible -.-


"much downgraded" is really a soft way to describe it. The whole Esports scene for StarCraft II got annihilated with LotV release... Whether it was foreigner scene or Korean one...
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
December 17 2015 16:53 GMT
#46
On December 18 2015 01:51 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2015 00:44 Swisslink wrote:
Wait...
There are only 2 SSL per year and these 2 seasons are like... 15 series and that's it?
So all the players who do not qualify for GSL and aren't in the top 16, they're just done for half a year? Oo

SSL pretty much downgraded A LOT for next year. This is so horrible -.-


"much downgraded" is really a soft way to describe it. The whole Esports scene for StarCraft II got annihilated with LotV release... Whether it was foreigner scene or Korean one...


we really need more official information before we jump to conclusions like this
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
December 17 2015 17:00 GMT
#47
On December 18 2015 01:51 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 00:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 18 2015 00:44 Swisslink wrote:
Wait...
There are only 2 SSL per year and these 2 seasons are like... 15 series and that's it?
So all the players who do not qualify for GSL and aren't in the top 16, they're just done for half a year? Oo

SSL pretty much downgraded A LOT for next year. This is so horrible -.-


"much downgraded" is really a soft way to describe it. The whole Esports scene for StarCraft II got annihilated with LotV release... Whether it was foreigner scene or Korean one...

huh what ? The competitions have barely started, and the game has been out for a month, and you're already crying daed gaem ?
I like starcraft
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 17 2015 17:04 GMT
#48
On December 18 2015 01:35 geokilla wrote:
7 Protoss, 6 Zergs, and 3 Terrans. The era of Terran dominance is over.

When was Terran last dominant?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
December 17 2015 17:05 GMT
#49
On December 18 2015 02:04 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 01:35 geokilla wrote:
7 Protoss, 6 Zergs, and 3 Terrans. The era of Terran dominance is over.

When was Terran last dominant?

2011.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
December 17 2015 17:24 GMT
#50
The problem for Terran, as Blizzard pointed out, is with the bunker and Thor anti air. Once that is fixed, all will be ok. Don't panic.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
feanaro
Profile Joined March 2014
United States123 Posts
December 17 2015 17:32 GMT
#51
On December 18 2015 01:25 Ingvar wrote:

Protoss line-up is unreasonable. There was 6 championship-level P in 2015 - sOs/Parting/Zest/Rain/Classic/herO. Only 2 of them managed to qualify but there is still 7 P in SSL. Out of those, Trust/MyuNgSiK/Hurricane/Patience were trash tier in Korea in HotS. There is no way all of them made a jump to the next level.


I am not so sure the protoss lineup is as unreasonable as you claim. As for only 2 of the 6 champions you named who qualified, you should bear in mind that Rain and PartinG didn't attempt to qualify, so including them in misleading. As for the other 2 who didn't qualify, well, sOs got screwed by the bracket and lost to the #1 ranked player on Aligulac in the single elimination stage, which is hardly that shocking, and then Zest lost to a terran, which to be honest is also not very surprising.

And the four that you described as "trash tier" all made code S at some point last year, so I doubt they are that bad. It seems particularly unfair to MyuNgSiK, considering that he made top 8 finished in the GSL, SSL and Kespa cup last year, so saying he shouldn't have made ro16 rings kind of hollow.

Anyway, we'll have to wait and see if any of them can actually pull off a deep run, or if they just crash and burn in the first round.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
December 17 2015 17:35 GMT
#52
Bad luck for Jin Air in the qualifiers
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
December 17 2015 18:02 GMT
#53
There's barely any Terrans in the tournament but already 1 Protoss in the semifinals, clearly rigged
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
December 17 2015 18:11 GMT
#54
aLive somehow keeps doing it.

WoL, HotS, now LotV, he has been able to be relevant in all 3 games, being the underdog in bassically every GSL (code S) he played. He almost never looked like he could be a champion, but he sure as hell can qualify for the big tournaments!
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
December 17 2015 18:22 GMT
#55
Bomber and FanTaSy didn't make it.
But I'm super stoked that Soulkey did. :D
StarCraft | www.psistorm.com | www.twitter.com/MistakesSC | www.twitch.tv/MistakesSC | Seattle
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
December 17 2015 18:45 GMT
#56
On December 18 2015 02:32 feanaro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 01:25 Ingvar wrote:

Protoss line-up is unreasonable. There was 6 championship-level P in 2015 - sOs/Parting/Zest/Rain/Classic/herO. Only 2 of them managed to qualify but there is still 7 P in SSL. Out of those, Trust/MyuNgSiK/Hurricane/Patience were trash tier in Korea in HotS. There is no way all of them made a jump to the next level.


I am not so sure the protoss lineup is as unreasonable as you claim. As for only 2 of the 6 champions you named who qualified, you should bear in mind that Rain and PartinG didn't attempt to qualify, so including them in misleading. As for the other 2 who didn't qualify, well, sOs got screwed by the bracket and lost to the #1 ranked player on Aligulac in the single elimination stage, which is hardly that shocking, and then Zest lost to a terran, which to be honest is also not very surprising.

And the four that you described as "trash tier" all made code S at some point last year, so I doubt they are that bad. It seems particularly unfair to MyuNgSiK, considering that he made top 8 finished in the GSL, SSL and Kespa cup last year, so saying he shouldn't have made ro16 rings kind of hollow.

Anyway, we'll have to wait and see if any of them can actually pull off a deep run, or if they just crash and burn in the first round.


That only proves my point. Out of 6 top players 2 didn't even try and 1 was steadily declining (Zest). Yet there is the biggest number of P in SSL. OK, I may be unfair to Myungsik, but still, there is too much Protoss players who made it to top 16 Koreans unexpectedly. Usually it is a result of bad balance.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 17 2015 19:02 GMT
#57
wow pretty crazy these qualifiers, looks like a lot of "lower tier players" have been practicing a lot and it's paid off. No Zest, Life, Dream, sOs, Maru, or Rogue o.O
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
December 17 2015 19:31 GMT
#58
Sooooo many terrans !!!!
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
December 17 2015 19:43 GMT
#59
On December 18 2015 02:05 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2015 02:04 AxionSteel wrote:
On December 18 2015 01:35 geokilla wrote:
7 Protoss, 6 Zergs, and 3 Terrans. The era of Terran dominance is over.

When was Terran last dominant?

2011.

Actually it was mid-late 2014.

But really, Legacy is a much different game than HotS. I mean, could you imagine serral almost all-killing Innovation, PartinG, and Hydra? Quite a few players now were not doing as well in HotS.

Although it is very similar to HotS and WoL, I would say that greatness in one does not automatically equate greatness in the other--at least this early in Legacy. People haven't figured out the game yet.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Celepharn
Profile Joined July 2015
Mexico60 Posts
December 17 2015 19:48 GMT
#60
Where is my boy Maru?
I love marine, so cheap, I like.
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