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[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group D Preview - S1 2015

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[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group D Preview - S1 2015

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February 20th, 2015 10:37 GMT
2015 WCS Season 1

WCS Season One
Premier League



WCS Ro32 Group D
Happy, PiG, Kane, TargA

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WCS Premier League
Ro32 Group D


Friday, Feb 20 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)


The mirror match group is an institution in big league the world over. Each season, there's always that one group that has 3 or 4 players of the same race, and usually it's one of the more hotly contested groups of that round. While many people get excited by potential TvT groups, there is a lot of disdain thrown at PvP and ZvZ groups. Of course, the protoss mirror has slowly rehabilitated its image over the past year, and it's now one of the most diverse matchups bar none.

Unfortunately, ZvZ is still mostly about roaches. After the first few minutes playing the "will he all in me" game of chicken, the game invariably ends up as a roach war with the third or fourth base as the point of contest. It becomes a race of upgrades for an opportunity to hit a good timing, and we do see a little bit of subtlety occasionally. Burrowed roach harass has always been one of the most exciting harassment options in ZvZ, and we've started to see more emphasis on using contamination to gain upgrade leads. While the masses of roach blobs rolling into each other is still rather unappealing, the matchup still requires a lot of skill that often goes unappreciated. In Group D, that skill will be put to the test with 3 zergs and a single terran.

That gives (T)Happy a distinct advantage. With only one matchup to play and with the three zergs not being wildly different, Happy should be able to prepare well for the group. However, Happy doesn't really change his game plan, and plays TvZ by killing his opponent with pinpricks. The Russian has always played with a slow, methodical pace, and it doesn't seem to matter who he faces or what race they play. If you've ever seen him play a game of Starcraft, and if you've ever read a TL preview of his TvZ, there's a good chance that's how he's going to play tonight.

Although his TvZ has never made waves, he has been improving in 2015. He went 12-3 in TvZ in qualifiers, and his 63.84% winrate in the matchup is solid. His chances tonight will likely come down to execution and his opponents' ability to predict and play against his style. They should know that he isn't one to frequently all-in, and he isn't going to pile on heavy pressure unless given an opening. Happy's key to victory will be scouting greedy openings and potential all-ins, and it should matter little to the veteran who he has to face since he'll play the same way regardless.

His first opponent will be the affable (Z)PiG, who has finally made it to Premier League after seasons of struggle. Many fans had identified him as the SEA/AUS/NZ zerg to watch out for, but his great barrier KingKong, or others, had always stood in the way. Fortunately, PiG defeated his rival in a ZvZ in Challenger League, and it should fill him with confidence in a group with 2 other zergs. His 67.67% winrate in the mirror is the best of the lot, and his experiences in the SEA region should have hardened him to the trials of the notoriously fickle matchup. His home server is famous for having an abnormally large zerg population, and his recent success in it will be a boon for his chances to reach the Round of 16 on his first try.

In ZvT, PiG rarely deviates from the norm. According to iaguz, "He might make lings at some point," (actual quote when I asked him) and it's a fair representation of his median style. He's certainly competent playing standard ZvT, and recent wins against iaguz and Kelazhur by a combined 7-0 look promising.

The first assured ZvZ of the evening will be (Z)Kane vs (Z)TargA. With little variation in ZvZ and the difficulty of succeeding with a distinctive personal style (unless, of course, you're a rabid all inner), it is the one matchup where winrates and recent form provide the most information.

Kane is the weakest with a 58.03% winrate, and he has the least LAN experience of the 4 players. The ~10% gap between him and the other two zergs is alarming, and his best chance to advance from this group is to beat TargA in his first match in order to hopefully face Happy for advancement. He's been a beast online, defeating the likes of Ryung, Heart, MaSa, Spear, and iaguz, but that has always been the case with Kane. His Premier League debut is his best chance to dismiss the notion that he's only a great online player and weak at LANs and ascend to Canada's next great zerg.



TargA will not be an easy opponent to beat, however. The Norwegian has always excelled at ZvZ as his 66.92% winrate attests, and he is neither vulnerable in Bo1s nor Bo3s. While some consider him a "lesser Snute", TargA is better at midgame roach wars and he isn't as big a believer in the power of swarm hosts. He defeated Kas 3-1 in Challenger League with impeccable macro and good control of his muta-ling-bling, and though his 59.67% winrate in ZvT might not be elite, he has shown time and again that he takes wins when the matter the most. He might actually be the most in form player in this group at the moment, and the powerful zerg should contend in a deciding match.

Overall thoughts and predictions:

Happy's advantage should be enough to see him advance in first place, and he's by far the most successful player in WCS among the four players. That means there's going to be a ZvZ scrap for second place, and it's difficult to make an informed guess as to who will be the victor. Based on winrates, it looks like PiG and TargA are neck and neck for second place. It'll be a battle between TargA's form and PiG's rising confidence, and either zerg will make a worthy second placer.

Happy > PiG
Kane < TargA
Happy > TargA
PiG > Kane
TargA < PiG

(T)Happy and (Z)PiG to advance.

Writers: lichter.
Editors: lichter.
Graphics: v1.
Stats: Aligulac
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rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
February 20 2015 10:45 GMT
#2
Can't stand those hipsters from the main page.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 20 2015 10:47 GMT
#3
Using way too much winrates and not actual form/performances imo.
Zest fanboy.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9224 Posts
February 20 2015 10:49 GMT
#4
PiG is going to get rekt. I think happy and Kane will make it. Maybe happy and Targa.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 20 2015 10:50 GMT
#5
On February 20 2015 19:49 Weavel wrote:
PiG is going to get rekt. I think happy and Kane will make it. Maybe happy and Targa.


I really like Kane but if the NA scene manages to only get its Korean out of the ro32 it'd be really satisfaying :D
Zest fanboy.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2104 Posts
February 20 2015 10:53 GMT
#6
Happy Targa please! Sorry Pig & Kane!
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8160 Posts
February 20 2015 11:16 GMT
#7
I hope Kane has improved his zvz
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
February 20 2015 11:17 GMT
#8
On February 20 2015 19:50 sAsImre wrote:
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On February 20 2015 19:49 Weavel wrote:
PiG is going to get rekt. I think happy and Kane will make it. Maybe happy and Targa.


I really like Kane but if the NA scene manages to only get its Korean out of the ro32 it'd be really satisfaying :D


Don't worry, Kane will make it. So will Huk. Canada FTW!
<3 BaseTradeTV <3
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
February 20 2015 11:21 GMT
#9
PiG comes from the land of ZvZ, but the fact that he asked Kane to practice with him for his Challenger match says a lot about Kane's ZvZ capabilities. I think the two of them will be the decider to see who advances 2nd alongside Happy. I don't see Targa making a serious impact on the group.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
February 20 2015 11:23 GMT
#10
Wow, I think you're more confident in PiG than even the SEA players are. Nice to see some respect.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Bertholdz
Profile Joined July 2013
23 Posts
February 20 2015 11:25 GMT
#11
Targa is frequently a happy pig but he kane't win this
xrayEU
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden571 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 11:26:37
February 20 2015 11:25 GMT
#12
Here we go guys!

(T)Happy 2-0 (Z)PiG
(Z)Kane 2-1 (Z)TargA
(T)Happy 2-0 (Z)Kane
(Z)PiG 1-2 (Z)TargA
(Z)TargA 0-2 (Z)Kane

(T)Happy and (Z)Kane advance to WCS Premier Ro16!
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 20 2015 11:41 GMT
#13
hoping for targa and kane.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Brained
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany58 Posts
February 20 2015 12:00 GMT
#14
zvz is boring to watch but i root for pig to make it out of the group next to happy (ofc)
Hell, it´s about time
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 20 2015 12:04 GMT
#15
Happy and Targa!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
February 20 2015 12:18 GMT
#16
EU holds, Happy and Targa gogo
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
February 20 2015 12:19 GMT
#17
I go with Happy and TargA
Vasacast always in my <3
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
February 20 2015 13:00 GMT
#18
Betted (T)Happy and (Z)TargA
Pls guys, I need the points
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
February 20 2015 13:17 GMT
#19
Probaby going to be (Z)TargA & (Z)Kane
ForGG. 29/11/2014
hewo
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 14:12:04
February 20 2015 13:23 GMT
#20
How can you not predict Targa in a ZZZT group? Are you nuts, lichter?

Edit: Happy aint Protoss (yet??)
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