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WCS Premier League Ro32 Group B Preview - S1 2015 - Page 3

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Shrinkzxo
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Dotoland672 Posts
February 15 2015 19:44 GMT
#41
On February 15 2015 22:58 ROOTiaguz wrote:
Polt and Jim? Where's that liquid bias?


Not in the bottom, so still...
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 19:57:19
February 15 2015 19:51 GMT
#42
On February 16 2015 03:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 03:37 Lonyo wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:25 Zealously wrote:
On February 16 2015 03:24 Lonyo wrote:
What's with the absurdly idiotic scheduling? 11pm/12pm European time on a Sunday? Is this supposed to be All Foreigner WCS or American WCS?


It's supposed to be the American and European WCS, which is why groups are split between EU and AM

Riot manage to schedule the NA LCS for 8pm UK time on weekends in the US, which is far more reasonable than 11pm like they have done with WCS, as it means it's viewable in the US and Europe, or at least half of it is (now they have gone to 5 games)
There's pretty much zero reason to schedule WCS so late on a Sunday when you are making it unfeasible for half the audience to watch it.

When it was WCS NA, it was more reasonable as it catered to one audience, but what logic is there to put it so late for half the audience, when it's a weekend?

I'm sorry EU has to deal with a single tournament being at a bad time. I"m sure it must be hard for you to watch every other event ever at a decent time. I can't imagine the struggle of havign to stay up till *GASP* 11PM to watch a tournament.

Hmm, I don't think you get the point, don't just look at your own situation. The point is that if the broadcast was a few ours earlier more viewers would be attracted.

On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Don't you think it would be better if the broadcast was a little earlier? Same amount of American viewers, more Europeans. That said there's Asian viewers to consider too of course.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 20:04:54
February 15 2015 19:55 GMT
#43
On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Maybe they have more passion than me. For me it's fine since I just skip those groups and pretend they never happened. :o

@Penev: I think US and European viewers are both 50/50 or so, maybe a tad more Europeans. I wonder about Asian viewers though, I think only China has many. But how many is it? I think I saw a pic from yesterday where the Chinese stream had over 50k viewers, if I interpreted the icon right. So if there's indeed that many, then the scheduling makes sense.

edit: 65k even. link Could also be just views though, but the icon looks like viewers.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
February 15 2015 20:03 GMT
#44
On February 16 2015 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Maybe they have more passion than me. For me it's fine since I just skip those groups and pretend they never happened. :o

@Penev: I think US and European viewers are both 50/50 or so, maybe a tad more Europeans. I wonder about Asian viewers though, I think only China has many. But how many is it? I think I saw a pic from yesterday where the Chinese stream had over 50k viewers, if I interpreted the icon right. So if there's indeed that many, then the scheduling makes sense.

50k? Wow :o

The future of SC2 is in China?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 15 2015 20:42 GMT
#45
On February 16 2015 05:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Maybe they have more passion than me. For me it's fine since I just skip those groups and pretend they never happened. :o

@Penev: I think US and European viewers are both 50/50 or so, maybe a tad more Europeans. I wonder about Asian viewers though, I think only China has many. But how many is it? I think I saw a pic from yesterday where the Chinese stream had over 50k viewers, if I interpreted the icon right. So if there's indeed that many, then the scheduling makes sense.

50k? Wow :o

The future of SC2 is in China?

The present of WC3 is in China, so that would only make sense d:
As for the viewer number isn't Doyou known for inflating its viewer numbers? (honest question, I think I remember some people saying that on TL on the "How to watch a chinese stream" thread)
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
February 15 2015 20:48 GMT
#46
not sure if I should stay up til 4 AM again if I have school tomorrow

help me boys
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 20:50:44
February 15 2015 20:50 GMT
#47
On February 16 2015 05:48 Alchemik wrote:
not sure if I should stay up til 4 AM again if I have school tomorrow

help me boys

don't. i'd understand if you did it for a grand final day, but no, don't. unless your passion is over 9000.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
February 15 2015 20:58 GMT
#48
I am a masochist, gonna stay up until 4 am to get uterly dissapointed by TLO again.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 21:04:16
February 15 2015 20:59 GMT
#49
its weekend, is it that hard for Blizzard to start maybe 3 hours earlier to accommodate both NA AND EU?

whose studio are they playing at....? someone else has the venue booked or something that why it has to start 3PM PST, 6PM EST?

in the states sports on weekends like NFL Football on Sundays are broadcasted nationally starting at 10AM PST, 1PM EST so its not like North Americans dont watch stuff earlier than what Blizzard has chosen
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
February 15 2015 21:32 GMT
#50
Polt should go out in first place. Hopefully he's able to play a macro game vs Jim, as I think that would be very cool. He should be able to crush Kelhazur in TvT, though he might struggle vs TLO in a macro game considering how bad he has looked vs zergs recently. Then again he beat Sen 2-0 at IEM Taipei so maybe he's fixed his problems in that matchup somewhat. I honestly wonder why Polt doesn't go back to using the TvZ builds that let him win MLG and 2 WCS AM finals all vs Zergs.

I think Jim will get out second, as I lost my faith in TLO a long time ago. I hope we get to see 3 matches from Jim vs all the players in the group, as I love watching his crazy playstyle.

Polt 2-0 Jim
Kelhazur 2-1 TLO
Polt 2-0 Kelhazur
Jim 2-0 TLO
Jim 2-0 Kelhazur
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#51
I'm never quite sure what to think about Jim. He's taken down great players sometimes and other times he seems extremely overhyped. I just went with Polt and TLO in liquibets
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
February 15 2015 21:42 GMT
#52
On February 16 2015 06:39 Shellshock wrote:
I'm never quite sure what to think about Jim. He's taken down great players sometimes and other times he seems extremely overhyped. I just went with Polt and TLO in liquibets


he be great for Hearthstone

all dat RNG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
February 15 2015 21:53 GMT
#53
On February 16 2015 06:39 Shellshock wrote:
I'm never quite sure what to think about Jim. He's taken down great players sometimes and other times he seems extremely overhyped. I just went with Polt and TLO in liquibets

Same. On he other hand:
On February 16 2015 05:58 HaRuHi wrote:
I am a masochist, gonna stay up until 4 am to get uterly dissapointed by TLO again.

I Protoss winner, could it be?
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 22:28:45
February 15 2015 22:27 GMT
#54
On February 16 2015 05:42 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 05:03 Penev wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Maybe they have more passion than me. For me it's fine since I just skip those groups and pretend they never happened. :o

@Penev: I think US and European viewers are both 50/50 or so, maybe a tad more Europeans. I wonder about Asian viewers though, I think only China has many. But how many is it? I think I saw a pic from yesterday where the Chinese stream had over 50k viewers, if I interpreted the icon right. So if there's indeed that many, then the scheduling makes sense.

50k? Wow :o

The future of SC2 is in China?

The present of WC3 is in China, so that would only make sense d:
As for the viewer number isn't Doyou known for inflating its viewer numbers? (honest question, I think I remember some people saying that on TL on the "How to watch a chinese stream" thread)

Yes divide the number you see on Douyu by 5 and you get the actual viewer number.
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TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
February 15 2015 22:36 GMT
#55
I like all four of these players I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
February 15 2015 22:45 GMT
#56
Actual Chinese viewers for yesterday should be a bit over 10k, but still good considering the time.
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Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
February 17 2015 15:25 GMT
#57
On February 16 2015 05:03 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 04:55 HolydaKing wrote:
On February 16 2015 04:41 Lorning wrote:
Christ people can be such whiny bitches just cause 1 tournament has a some groups that are more directed towards American audiences

Maybe they have more passion than me. For me it's fine since I just skip those groups and pretend they never happened. :o

@Penev: I think US and European viewers are both 50/50 or so, maybe a tad more Europeans. I wonder about Asian viewers though, I think only China has many. But how many is it? I think I saw a pic from yesterday where the Chinese stream had over 50k viewers, if I interpreted the icon right. So if there's indeed that many, then the scheduling makes sense.

50k? Wow :o

The future of SC2 is in China?


The future of everything is in China. Asia in general really.
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