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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 10 2014 16:46 GMT
#61
On December 11 2014 01:41 lastride wrote:
Lol what is happening to skt? Are they freaking serious?

They understood team leagues=/=individual leagues
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 10 2014 17:03 GMT
#62
Gratz Billowy!
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 17:09:02
December 10 2014 17:06 GMT
#63
On December 11 2014 00:42 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:18 Ej_ wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:14 Random_0 wrote:
Damn. SKT roster went from (P)Rain, (P)PartinG, and (Z)Soulkey to these scrubs?

I hope iloveoov still has some magic in his coaching hat.

(Z)soO and (T)INnoVation are both S-class
(P)Classic is a GSL champion
(P)Billowy is a really solid teamleague player
(Z)Dark , (P)ParalyzE , (T)Dream and (T)Sorry are much better than what people give them credit for

still better roster than most teams IMHO (also they can ban Parting from ST)



Dark is safe choice for top-3 Zerg in Korea next season and he's top-5 already.
That's not Jin Air roster, but who cares, it's time to win, 4 years without gold is a lot.
If bo7 SPL happens, T1 might have a bit of problems in first rounds, but if it's bo5, i don't see a single reason why can't it happen.

Yo

JINAIR GREEN WINGS

Try again in 10 years plz


That's why Jin Air is name of company, coolio.
On December 11 2014 00:44 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:18 Ej_ wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:14 Random_0 wrote:
Damn. SKT roster went from (P)Rain, (P)PartinG, and (Z)Soulkey to these scrubs?

I hope iloveoov still has some magic in his coaching hat.

(Z)soO and (T)INnoVation are both S-class
(P)Classic is a GSL champion
(P)Billowy is a really solid teamleague player
(Z)Dark , (P)ParalyzE , (T)Dream and (T)Sorry are much better than what people give them credit for

still better roster than most teams IMHO (also they can ban Parting from ST)



Dark is safe choice for top-3 Zerg in Korea next season and he's top-5 already.
That's not Jin Air roster, but who cares, it's time to win, 4 years without gold is a lot.
If bo7 SPL happens, T1 might have a bit of problems in first rounds, but if it's bo5, i don't see a single reason why can't it happen.


What has Dark done lately? Admittedly, I tend to forget about him myself even when he's been code S all year, but top 5 Zerg seems like a bit of a stretch. That's even with Zerg having the weakest player pool.

Life, soO, Soulkey, Solar, DRG imo.

Dark is more in the demi-god tier with Rogue and ByuL.


Idk, DRG had that one miracle run in Code S but i don't see him above Dark this season at all with Dark consistently performing in Code S/Proleague.
We'll see though, Zergs are pretty weak outside of soO/Life/Solar in achievements this season even with cool maps in season 2.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 10 2014 17:36 GMT
#64
On December 11 2014 00:49 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:44 ZAiNs wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:41 OtherWorld wrote:
Wow that's a pretty big stretch between Prime and SKT, I wonder if he left Prime because of his contacts with SKT. SKT's roster looks solid now, not as solid as KT/JAGW/CJ/(and possibly Startale depending on how players synergize with each other) though

You really think SKT isn't as strong as CJ? CJ has 0 GSL finals vs current SKT's 7.

If we think about individual leagues KT didn't have a single GSL finals (iirc, I might be wrong on that) at the beginning of the last SPL season.

Yea, I guess it doesn't mean much to point out CJ has 0 GSL finals, but SKT having 7 shows they are still a force to be reckoned with.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
December 10 2014 18:17 GMT
#65
Grats to him, it's not the SKT I fell in love with years ago anymore, but SKT will always be best KT.
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skylinefan
Profile Joined November 2014
Malaysia53 Posts
December 10 2014 18:49 GMT
#66
This is sickkk...! I believe ^^
HerO l JaeDong l Flash
Samx
Profile Joined August 2013
Singapore149 Posts
December 10 2014 20:26 GMT
#67
Soo and classic is good at individual league. Bogus is good at all kill team league. His raw mechanical strength will roll over many players. But in Proleague format, he is prone to being sniped by a prepared build that punish his greed. Good though as classic will probably play more games which will allow him to showcase his prepared builds to take out his opponents. Might put to rest some of his doubters that question the legitimacy of his gsl win.

All in all skt looks a notch below from last season. The loss of rain and soulkey is telling.

Because they are such good players that don't rely on gimmicks or balance and just straight up show that they are superior players regardless of racial balance. I don't see with current roster skt to be able to compete with kt. Stats is grossly underrated. Zest is the best player in the world. Flash is a monster for Proleague format. Ty's multi tasking and micro is possibly the strongest amongst terran pros.

Against JAGW. I don't see anyone on SKT to be as skilled as SoS. Possibly only SoO is on SoS level. Maru will exploit 11/11's unabashedly. I don't see anyone outside of Bogus, SoO and classic having a decent chance against cure. On current strength, SKT can get 2-2 against JAGW if the match ups are favourable. But will have problem against SoS in ace match.

SKT need a consistent 4th leg to supplement Bogus SoO and Classic. DRG would be good.
Our enemies are a legion and STILL you procrastinate
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 20:34:39
December 10 2014 20:31 GMT
#68
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting.
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 10 2014 20:32 GMT
#69
On December 11 2014 05:26 Samx wrote:
Against JAGW. I don't see anyone on SKT to be as skilled as SoS. Possibly only SoO is on SoS level. Maru will exploit 11/11's unabashedly. I don't see anyone outside of Bogus, SoO and classic having a decent chance against cure. On current strength, SKT can get 2-2 against JAGW if the match ups are favourable. But will have problem against SoS in ace match.

or Maru. Or Cure. Or Rogue. Or Pigbaby. Or a dozen others.

FU other teams, JAGW taking this one home ♥
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
December 10 2014 20:33 GMT
#70
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other team that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams is probably Yoe Flash Wolves and if they do, will Parting play for them or Startale?

Looking at skill and player counts, mYi shouldn't be overlooked. Jjakji, Stardust, Balloon, Kane, Rain, Sacsri. They could do it?
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
astray71
Profile Joined February 2012
United States325 Posts
December 10 2014 20:37 GMT
#71
On December 11 2014 05:33 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other team that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams is probably Yoe Flash Wolves and if they do, will Parting play for them or Startale?

Looking at skill and player counts, mYi shouldn't be overlooked. Jjakji, Stardust, Balloon, Kane, Rain, Sacsri. They could do it?


Yeah, I forgot about them. I remembered just as I clicked Post and you posted this while I was editing lol
There is no victory without the blessing of god, and there is no god but Madlife.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
December 10 2014 20:40 GMT
#72
The only thing that tells me this is still SKT1 is soO... KT definitely best KT in 2015!
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 10 2014 20:48 GMT
#73
On December 11 2014 05:37 astray71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 05:33 SC2Toastie wrote:
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other team that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams is probably Yoe Flash Wolves and if they do, will Parting play for them or Startale?

Looking at skill and player counts, mYi shouldn't be overlooked. Jjakji, Stardust, Balloon, Kane, Rain, Sacsri. They could do it?


Yeah, I forgot about them. I remembered just as I clicked Post and you posted this while I was editing lol

iirc Pengwin said mYi players didn't want to participate in PL
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Liliputin
Profile Joined January 2012
Czech Republic458 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 20:56:38
December 10 2014 20:56 GMT
#74
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting.

Prime > MVP even with only 5 guys on their roster... MarineKing only viable player from MVP, can take a game, maybe YongHwa can beat TerrOr...
Prime <3 l black from exile l F O R S E N B O Y S
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
December 10 2014 21:06 GMT
#75
On December 11 2014 05:56 Liliputin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting.

Prime > MVP even with only 5 guys on their roster... MarineKing only viable player from MVP, can take a game, maybe YongHwa can beat TerrOr...

Choya will make MVP a top4 team with ease, just like he turned MK into a top player (;
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 10 2014 21:09 GMT
#76
Billowgod :3
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13992 Posts
December 10 2014 21:34 GMT
#77
BIllowy Dark and Dream SKT cannot lose proleague
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_TMT_
Profile Joined September 2014
Vietnam114 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-10 22:06:46
December 10 2014 21:50 GMT
#78
On December 11 2014 05:31 astray71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2014 00:12 sabas123 wrote:
this roster looks so small:/ I hope they still have b-teamers left?


All of the kespa teams look small now =/
SKT has soO, INnoVation, Classic, and Dark
KT has Zest, TY, Flash, and Stats
Jin Air has Maru, sOs, Cure, and Rogue
CJ has Bbyong, herO, and ByuL
Samsung has Solar and Dear

Prime has no one
MVP has Marineking (who still has the Mvp curse of 2nd place)
Startale has Life and maybe Parting if kespa lets him play.

Proleague 2015 is going to be a global thing right?
We know Team Liquid probably isn't playing with HerO going to play for MVP
Acer probably isn't going to play with only 4 activate players (I've never seen Paranoid)
Axiom is possible
The only other teams that will be able to compete with the Kespa teams are probably mYinsanity with Jjakji, Rain, and Stardust and Yoe Flash Wolves with Leenock, San and Parting.


ST is with YFW now. That means ST/YFW has Life, Parting (if...), San, Leenock.

EDIT: and Bomber too.

And I find the stacking rolster thing irrelevant for proleague. Last year SKT could not pull it. And the semifinals were even matches. CJ/Jinair are not far behind.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19308 Posts
December 10 2014 21:52 GMT
#79
I spent the last year saying SKT wasn't championship caliber because they don't mesh well as a team like they did before SC2. Buying talent doesn't equal championships. Billowy could be a nice addition to the team in the same way KT has a nice supporting cast for all situations.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Trius
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine273 Posts
December 10 2014 21:52 GMT
#80
On December 11 2014 06:50 _TMT_ wrote:
ST is with YFW now. That means ST/YFW has Life, Parting (if...), San, Leenock.

They've also got Bomber.
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