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elfi did extremely poorly in WCS qualifiers falling to CoolTea in RO64, Monty in RO64, StarNaN in RO16 and 
Namshar in RO16. Still sad news.elfi and Vega Squadron part ways - Page 2
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Enstein
Russian Federation134 Posts
elfi did extremely poorly in WCS qualifiers falling to CoolTea in RO64, Monty in RO64, StarNaN in RO16 and Namshar in RO16. Still sad news. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12470 Posts
On July 25 2014 23:30 KaiserJohan wrote: Atleast it's honest. I'd rather have that than the generic PR statements no sane person believes in anyway. I disagree, it's not like elfi asked them for a work certificate or anything, there is no reason to comment on his performance like that. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46077 Posts
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FuRRie
Belgium815 Posts
Unlike other posts when players leave teams with random statements that mean nothing. At least this makes it clear elfi didn't live up to expectations. | ||
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QCD
Suriname81 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:01 HighArT wrote: First of all, this departure was on mutual agreement. Of course we talked with him about this, and he was aware that something like this could happened simply because when we signed him we did talk to him and made him clear what we expect from him in future events and tournaments, esspeccialy WCS. We are not big team, obviously we can't afford so expensive players like elfi to underperform and not achieve at least some goals that we set up together. Maybe bigger teams can, we can't. Yes, elfi was probably our best player (togehter with LZ), but you must be aware that we have different expectations from different players, aswell they have different contracts with salary and with different benefits, which are competent with their skill level, results and other stuff. Otherwise elfi is great guy, hard working, and very friendly, and after all he understands our situation and our need to make this move that we made well, so i don't see such need for inappropriate comments or hatred towards us. It is just business and financial decision from our side, from which point we must move on. Be that as it may, be careful about how you release news of releasing a player, when you do it this way, and for that reason it usually just always sounds bad. I agree with most on the matter anyhow. | ||
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orangeorange
134 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:01 HighArT wrote: First of all, this departure was on mutual agreement. Of course we talked with him about this, and he was aware that something like this could happened simply because when we signed him we did talk to him and made him clear what we expect from him in future events and tournaments, esspeccialy WCS. We are not big team, obviously we can't afford so expensive players like elfi to underperform and not achieve at least some goals that we set up together. Maybe bigger teams can, we can't. Yes, elfi was probably our best player (togehter with LZ), but you must be aware that we have different expectations from different players, aswell they have different contracts with salary and with different benefits, which are competent with their skill level, results and other stuff. Otherwise elfi is great guy, hard working, and very friendly, and after all he understands our situation and our need to make this move that we made well, so i don't see such need for inappropriate comments or hatred towards us. It is just business and financial decision from our side, from which point we must move on. A cleaned up version of a post like this would've been a much better way of announcing elfi's departure. | ||
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Creager
Germany1941 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:48 FuRRie wrote: Good that Vega squadron has the balls to say whats up. Unlike other posts when players leave teams with random statements that mean nothing. At least this makes it clear elfi didn't live up to expectations. While I agree to some degree, it's just bad PR for them as an esports team, because contracting a player for 4 months and releasing him after getting no results doesn't exactly make them attractive as employer as it puts players under severe pressure to perform really well in a very short period of time. It's understandable they can't keep him, if they can't afford paying him without getting their value out of him, but it's rather poor decision-making in the long term. | ||
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QCD
Suriname81 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:17 Thalandros wrote: The way it's put is incredibly unprofessional and offputting, makes you want to support the team less. Not a big fan of Elfi but come on. :p dont invest in a 'popular' player if you cant keep him when he doesnt win a major event Thats just called bad business This I also feel elfi needed more time, to show how really good he is. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:06 LaaLaaLeevi wrote: You have to realise that we are talking about a God here. His last note worthy result was losing to idra in an IEM finals, 3 years ago. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On July 25 2014 23:05 ReaperSC2 wrote: Yeah, talk about investing into a player... Unless Elfi asked for more money (which I doubt) then I really don't approve of such flash contracts. "flash contract" ? 4month contract and much less are very common in any field of work, especially when you just hire someone for the first time. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7179 Posts
On July 26 2014 01:01 Zenbrez wrote: His last note worthy result was losing to idra in an IEM finals, 3 years ago. Ahh, i see so you dont count 2 ro8 placements in a row at dreamhack as noteworthy results? | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 26 2014 01:09 Luolis wrote: Ahh, i see so you dont count 2 ro8 placements in a row at dreamhack as noteworthy results? He placed as 6th actually  And after that next event (ASUS ROG) he got again to ro8. He is doing better than most of the foreigners. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13408 Posts
And as bloody dwarf above me points out he's posting better results than a lot of "bigger" names except I guess no high wcs finishes? If elfi gets on a team that has decent players for team leagues you would get much more value out of him. For example EG, it can get a lot of value from elfi in the European scene tbh. Or mouz likewise much value in elfi for them. | ||
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yido
United States350 Posts
On July 26 2014 00:06 LaaLaaLeevi wrote: You have to realise that we are talking about a God here. Can someone explain the elfi hype? Isn't he one of the lowest apm professional toss? I haven't followed his recent exploits, but I remember him making lots of simple mechanical errors in earlier Homestory Cups. Back then I thought he was one of the players that won games off of Koreans because it was PvX. I have a more enlightened view of toss now but I don't remember any of his games being particularly amazing. | ||
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hfsrj
Germany166 Posts
Team xxx is very sad to part way with player yyy. We had a great time together but this has to end unfortunately, but we'll still be friends ! Player yyy : I really love team xxx they're the best, I wish I could have stayed there forever. Team xxx : Player yyy is so great we'd rather we had him on the team forever ! | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On July 26 2014 01:01 Zenbrez wrote: His last note worthy result was losing to idra in an IEM finals, 3 years ago. I guess since he is God a note worthy result must be a premier tournament final spot, but he has take a bunch of series against good koreans in a bit smaller tournaments and in dreamhacks even though indeed a godly run is lacking from the last three years. Only four months seemed a bit short for a contract, but for sc2 players it can be a pretty brutal world these days. Vega's way to announce that didn't really make it any more gentle certainly, but different teams do things differently. Hopefully elfi will get things clicking soon and find a solid team. Based on some of his social media posts it's been a bit rough for him irl also. | ||
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Darthsanta13
United States564 Posts
I bet Scarlett would make an exception, she runs the elfi fanclub. | ||
Waxangel
United States33629 Posts
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Corvuuss
Austria354 Posts
On July 25 2014 20:47 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: With that LogiC they should kick all their members :D Maybe elfi asked too much money. Finland is one of the most expensive countries in europe. Well they have LiveZerg, and don't mess with LiveZerg man | ||
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