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WCS EU - Ro32 Group C Preview (Season 1)

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WCS EU - Ro32 Group C Preview (Season 1)

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February 22nd, 2014 07:17 GMT
2013 GSL Season 2

WCS Europe 2014
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Ro32: Group C Preview

(Z)VortiX, (P)Lilbow, (T)ForGG, (P)BabyKnight

by Waxangel

With NaNiwa and Scarlett dropping out in the early going, it's time to look for some new foreigner heroes. Bunny and Nerchio are through to the WCS Europe Ro16 so far, and we'll have to wait and see which Europeans will be able to join them.

Many will be looking to (Z)mouz.VortiX to pick up the banner. VortiX has been one of the best foreign players since mid-2012, placing high in plenty of tournaments. He's 10th place in prize money earned among international players, just behind Scarlett and Snute. Though it's a bit of a shame that his quiet and reserved demeanor led to him getting overlooked at times, we can't argue if a guy wants to let his play do the talking.

VortiX will get a relatively easy first match to buoy his prospects of advancement, facing first time WCS player
(P)XMG.Lilbow. Lilbow isn't just a newcomer to WCS – this tournament will actually be his first time competing in a 'major' tournament. The fact that XMG decided to pick him up is a testament to his talent, and his tournament record has been surprisingly good so far (if he went on at this pace for four more months, then he could even be the 2014 version of Dayshi!). However, since it's so exceedingly rare to see a newcomer make an immediate impact in the foreign scene, we just can't be optimistic about Lilbow's chances.

On the other side of the bracket we have an unfortunate team-kill match between (T)Mill.ForGG and (P)Mill.BabyKnight. We already mentioned ForGG briefly in the preview for Group B, pointing to him as a cautionary tale about Koreans who have a sizzling first few months overseas before eventually flaring out.

Though he's lost the "best player in Europe" aura, ForGG is still a very strong player. He's also a frustrating enigma, playing on par with the very best Korean players in one tournament, only to flop out of another tournament a week later. We mean that literally: he was magnificent at ASUS ROG Winter where he defeated Jaedong and San, and almost beat Dear, but was uninspiring two weeks later in a Ro16 elimination at IEM Cologne.

Teammate BabyKnight will be hoping it's the off-form, raging at Protoss ForGG that shows up to this match. BabyKnight is a good player in his own right, more than capable of winning series against Korean pros. But if it's the ForGG from ASUS ROG Winter who shows up, then BabyKnight should forget about winning the match and make second place his goal in the group.

Predictions: ForGG's form will dictate how this group goes. It's likely he'll go through in first place, but elimination at the hands of BabyKnight and VortiX is a small but real possibility.

VortiX > Lilbow
BabyKnight > ForGG
VortiX > BabyKnigt
ForGG > Lilbow
ForGG > BabyKnight

VortiX and ForGG advance.

WCS Europe Premier League Season 1 Player List


Protoss (13): MC, Genius, Stardust, NaNiwa, Grubby, BlinG, Lilbow, Welmu, ShoWTimE, HasuObs, San, BabyKnight, NightEnD
Terran (8): MMA, Mvp, Happy, Bunny, Dayshi, Kas, ForGG, jjakji
Zerg (11): VortiX, Nerchio, TargA, FireCake, Starbuck, Slivko, TLO, Bly, LiveZerg, Snute, Miniraser

Writers: Waxangel.
Graphics: ESL.
Front page photos: Silverfire.
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partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
February 22 2014 07:46 GMT
#2
Gogo ForGG and Babyknight!
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14456 Posts
February 22 2014 07:57 GMT
#3
FORGG !!!!!!!!!
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 22 2014 08:00 GMT
#4
go BBK and vortix!
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 08:50:55
February 22 2014 08:50 GMT
#5
I'm curious to see what Lilbow can do here, if nerves kick in or not. It would be lovely to see an upset in this group, I wish for both Vortix and BBK to move on.
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 08:53:58
February 22 2014 08:51 GMT
#6
Exact same prediction that I posted in my blog 4 hours ago (EXACTLY), even Babyknight winning the first match versus ForGG and lose the second...

Well at least I think like Waxangel :D
I write stuff on LiquidDota also I own omwproductions.com
RaiderRyan
Profile Joined February 2014
United States78 Posts
February 22 2014 08:52 GMT
#7
1. forgg 2. vortix

seems like a straight forward group
Better to live as a hawk for a day than as a pigeon for a lifetime
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 22 2014 08:54 GMT
#8
On February 22 2014 17:51 DJWilma wrote:
Exact same prediction that I posted in my blog 4 hours ago (EXACTLY), even Babyknight winning the first match versus ForGG and lose the second...

Well at least I think like Waxangel :D

It doesn't make any sense, if anything he will lose the first one and win the second one
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
February 22 2014 08:59 GMT
#9
On February 22 2014 17:54 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 17:51 DJWilma wrote:
Exact same prediction that I posted in my blog 4 hours ago (EXACTLY), even Babyknight winning the first match versus ForGG and lose the second...

Well at least I think like Waxangel :D

It doesn't make any sense, if anything he will lose the first one and win the second one


I disagree, Babyknight has shown to bring out his A game in those beginning matches. I think ForGG is the better player, and with that even if he loses in the first series, he will be able to pull it back in the second. Look at what happened to BabyKnight in Asus Rog, wrecks Alicia first BO3, and gets trumped in the second.
I write stuff on LiquidDota also I own omwproductions.com
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
February 22 2014 09:18 GMT
#10
BBK and ForGG, those two I think.
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Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
February 22 2014 09:52 GMT
#11
TL writers predictions not very good, often based on outdated informations, you have been wrong in your predictions for months now, you really need to step up your game and I don't think Vortix will advance today, seeing how his recent play has been extremely disappointing.
Hell, it's about time
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
February 22 2014 10:11 GMT
#12
On February 22 2014 17:59 DJWilma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 17:54 Nerchio wrote:
On February 22 2014 17:51 DJWilma wrote:
Exact same prediction that I posted in my blog 4 hours ago (EXACTLY), even Babyknight winning the first match versus ForGG and lose the second...

Well at least I think like Waxangel :D

It doesn't make any sense, if anything he will lose the first one and win the second one


I disagree, Babyknight has shown to bring out his A game in those beginning matches. I think ForGG is the better player, and with that even if he loses in the first series, he will be able to pull it back in the second. Look at what happened to BabyKnight in Asus Rog, wrecks Alicia first BO3, and gets trumped in the second.

That is Starcraft2 and PvP, Forgg always plays the same style so after first bo3 you have bigger chances of winning.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12375 Posts
February 22 2014 10:13 GMT
#13
On February 22 2014 18:52 Cinim wrote:
TL writers predictions not very good, often based on outdated informations, you have been wrong in your predictions for months now, you really need to step up your game and I don't think Vortix will advance today, seeing how his recent play has been extremely disappointing.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444171
they just made a perfect prediction here
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
February 22 2014 10:15 GMT
#14
I hope to see good games from ForGG he played really impressive at the last ASUS ROG
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DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-22 11:03:24
February 22 2014 10:57 GMT
#15
On February 22 2014 19:13 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 18:52 Cinim wrote:
TL writers predictions not very good, often based on outdated informations, you have been wrong in your predictions for months now, you really need to step up your game and I don't think Vortix will advance today, seeing how his recent play has been extremely disappointing.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=444171
they just made a perfect prediction here


I did too
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=444188

EDIT: The final result that is...
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 22 2014 11:27 GMT
#16
VortiX + BabyK please :D
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Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
February 22 2014 11:57 GMT
#17
VortiX! Do it!
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
February 22 2014 11:58 GMT
#18
ForGG and Lilbow lets go !!

ForGG will wreck everyone, screw you wax for even thinking he would lose a match.
And then lilbow for the surprise.
RIP MKP
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 22 2014 12:04 GMT
#19
On February 22 2014 19:11 Nerchio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2014 17:59 DJWilma wrote:
On February 22 2014 17:54 Nerchio wrote:
On February 22 2014 17:51 DJWilma wrote:
Exact same prediction that I posted in my blog 4 hours ago (EXACTLY), even Babyknight winning the first match versus ForGG and lose the second...

Well at least I think like Waxangel :D

It doesn't make any sense, if anything he will lose the first one and win the second one


I disagree, Babyknight has shown to bring out his A game in those beginning matches. I think ForGG is the better player, and with that even if he loses in the first series, he will be able to pull it back in the second. Look at what happened to BabyKnight in Asus Rog, wrecks Alicia first BO3, and gets trumped in the second.

That is Starcraft2 and PvP, Forgg always plays the same style so after first bo3 you have bigger chances of winning.

You sure know how to hold a grudge.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 22 2014 12:58 GMT
#20
Don't know VortiX's current form at the moment so I'll go with my Millenium boys.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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