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VasHeR
Profile Joined June 2011
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 15:08:07
January 16 2014 12:32 GMT
#61
On January 16 2014 20:18 PengWin_SC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 15:22 VasHeR wrote:
On January 16 2014 11:44 PengWin_SC wrote:
On January 16 2014 10:20 VasHeR wrote:
So during whatever clan war showmatch that took place to celebrate reynor joining mYi, Pengwin thought it'd be fun to "cast like the Italian guy" from Vasacast. He basically just shouted into the mic in a poor imitation that seemed like he was ripping off Mexican soccer commentators because "that's what he sounds like." Kind of objectively offensive. It was met with... mixed reviews... in chat. He then said that someone messaged him on sc2 "If you ever cast like that again, I'll kill you." For whatever reason, he decided that I was the one that did it and blamed me for it on stream. I said I didn't appreciate the slander. Then he permabanned me.
So between the slander, the racist casting, and the generally less than mediocre casting he normally gives, I'm pretty bummed he'll be covering WCS at all. I hope there are additional casters for this.

Also, does anyone know if this revolver is the same guy who was a top undead in warcraft3? I've been unsure of that for a while.


Hi there,

First off, there was no offense intended, and none was taken on Vasa's side. He is a good friend of mine, and found it entertaining himself, albeit somewhat silly. As you pointed out, there were mixed reactions in chat, and we took that into account when we decided not to cast another game like that.

As for why I assumed you wrote me on battle.net, you were pretty much saying the exact same thing in chat, which is why you were permabanned, though I don't remember banning you personally, may well have been one of the mods. Either way it was well earned.

EDIT: No additional casters, it's all Madals and myself, sorry VasHeR

I was saying the same things in chat? How delusional are you dude? I said "You're casting is ruining this game for me," followed shortly thereafter by me saying "f***in pengwin," and so I got an agreeable and deserved tempban, because you're the caster in the middle of a cast so you call the shots. No problem. Then you slandered me and permabanned me (yourself) when I said "Don't slander me, bro."
You are lying again publicly pretending I said something completely ridiculous because you're too much of a coward to admit your own mistake. What a clown. Lying scumbag.

Also, do I really have no explain to you what "objectively offensive" means? It's great that your buddy Vasa was not offended. Do you truly believe that means that nobody else could take offense to it? If you were trying to 'talk like temp0' and he found it entertaining, do you think that makes it ok? Please do it

BasetradeTV and Rif, much love. Solid casting, cool map intros, and the "first blood" and "mega kill" sounds are fun. But how would you feel when someone is publicly lying, telling others you've said some horrible things? And then when he does it a second time here on these forums?
It's not right.


I don't really see how you think I'm in the wrong here. You flamed me, I banned you. If you told me you were not the person writing me on battle.net, I would have said on stream that you had said so. I'd check the VOD but honestly I'm not going to waste my time. Feel free to check it if you want. I banned you for flaming me, not for trying to profess innocence. That would be fucking dumb.

And about the whole offensive thing, I never once said I was imitating a group of people or anything. You have to be pretty dumb to think that me imitating one specific person (which, as both rif and I said in the cast, was intended as a silly homage to the guy) who does not represent any group of people can be construed as offensive to anybody but that one person. It's not even like Vasa's casting represents an Italian stereotype or anything. You're just looking for ammunition to throw at me because you're salty that I banned you.

Ironically, you're complaining about my alleged "slander" against you while misquoting me in your first post and maintaining that I banned you for something different than what I banned you for, which, ironically, is you throwing slander in my direction.

+ Show Spoiler +
Your delusional distortion of events is scary. You temp banned for flame, then permabanned when I complained about slander. You would not and did not say so on stream. Just banned rather than admit wrong or even say that I denied it. I agree that it is dumb. More cowardly, really. It's what you did. And you're adding to lies saying I was "saying the exact same thing in chat." Did i misquote that?
You don't even need to check VOD anyway. This is my account name. It could be checked against your list of blocked people (assuming you blocked the guy who messaged you "If you ever cast like that again, I'll kill you." Fair assumption?). I'm not in there. You'll probably convince yourself that I bought a second copy of WoL+HotS just so I could message you that.
"alleged 'slander'"...
VasHeR
Profile Joined June 2011
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 15:08:31
January 16 2014 12:33 GMT
#62
On January 16 2014 20:59 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 15:22 VasHeR wrote:
On January 16 2014 11:44 PengWin_SC wrote:
On January 16 2014 10:20 VasHeR wrote:
So during whatever clan war showmatch that took place to celebrate reynor joining mYi, Pengwin thought it'd be fun to "cast like the Italian guy" from Vasacast. He basically just shouted into the mic in a poor imitation that seemed like he was ripping off Mexican soccer commentators because "that's what he sounds like." Kind of objectively offensive. It was met with... mixed reviews... in chat. He then said that someone messaged him on sc2 "If you ever cast like that again, I'll kill you." For whatever reason, he decided that I was the one that did it and blamed me for it on stream. I said I didn't appreciate the slander. Then he permabanned me.
So between the slander, the racist casting, and the generally less than mediocre casting he normally gives, I'm pretty bummed he'll be covering WCS at all. I hope there are additional casters for this.

Also, does anyone know if this revolver is the same guy who was a top undead in warcraft3? I've been unsure of that for a while.


Hi there,

First off, there was no offense intended, and none was taken on Vasa's side. He is a good friend of mine, and found it entertaining himself, albeit somewhat silly. As you pointed out, there were mixed reactions in chat, and we took that into account when we decided not to cast another game like that.

As for why I assumed you wrote me on battle.net, you were pretty much saying the exact same thing in chat, which is why you were permabanned, though I don't remember banning you personally, may well have been one of the mods. Either way it was well earned.

EDIT: No additional casters, it's all Madals and myself, sorry VasHeR

I was saying the same things in chat? How delusional are you dude? I said "You're casting is ruining this game for me," followed shortly thereafter by me saying "f***in pengwin," and so I got an agreeable and deserved tempban, because you're the caster in the middle of a cast so you call the shots. No problem. Then you slandered me and permabanned me (yourself) when I said "Don't slander me, bro."
You are lying again publicly pretending I said something completely ridiculous because you're too much of a coward to admit your own mistake. What a clown. Lying scumbag.

Also, do I really have no explain to you what "objectively offensive" means? It's great that your buddy Vasa was not offended. Do you truly believe that means that nobody else could take offense to it? If you were trying to 'talk like temp0' and he found it entertaining, do you think that makes it ok? Please do it

BasetradeTV and Rif, much love. Solid casting, cool map intros, and the "first blood" and "mega kill" sounds are fun. But how would you feel when someone is publicly lying, telling others you've said some horrible things? And then when he does it a second time here on these forums?
It's not right.


If you're offended by somone immitating other casters / players in a bad way, for your sake don't watch homestory cup... Like never or 2GD or Incontrol for that matter.

See you never

+ Show Spoiler +
It is possible for two people to tell the exact same joke and one sounds funny and the other sounds inappropriate. Did you know that was possible? You just learned something
You watch 30 rock? Remember when Tracy calls Twofer the n word, then Twofer says it to Tracy and everyone freaks out? Light bulb over ur head?
You're a little late to white knight anyway. We've already established his Vasa impression had mixed reviews in chat, to put it nicely.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 16 2014 13:15 GMT
#63
On January 16 2014 21:33 VasHeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 20:59 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 16 2014 15:22 VasHeR wrote:
On January 16 2014 11:44 PengWin_SC wrote:
On January 16 2014 10:20 VasHeR wrote:
So during whatever clan war showmatch that took place to celebrate reynor joining mYi, Pengwin thought it'd be fun to "cast like the Italian guy" from Vasacast. He basically just shouted into the mic in a poor imitation that seemed like he was ripping off Mexican soccer commentators because "that's what he sounds like." Kind of objectively offensive. It was met with... mixed reviews... in chat. He then said that someone messaged him on sc2 "If you ever cast like that again, I'll kill you." For whatever reason, he decided that I was the one that did it and blamed me for it on stream. I said I didn't appreciate the slander. Then he permabanned me.
So between the slander, the racist casting, and the generally less than mediocre casting he normally gives, I'm pretty bummed he'll be covering WCS at all. I hope there are additional casters for this.

Also, does anyone know if this revolver is the same guy who was a top undead in warcraft3? I've been unsure of that for a while.


Hi there,

First off, there was no offense intended, and none was taken on Vasa's side. He is a good friend of mine, and found it entertaining himself, albeit somewhat silly. As you pointed out, there were mixed reactions in chat, and we took that into account when we decided not to cast another game like that.

As for why I assumed you wrote me on battle.net, you were pretty much saying the exact same thing in chat, which is why you were permabanned, though I don't remember banning you personally, may well have been one of the mods. Either way it was well earned.

EDIT: No additional casters, it's all Madals and myself, sorry VasHeR

I was saying the same things in chat? How delusional are you dude? I said "You're casting is ruining this game for me," followed shortly thereafter by me saying "f***in pengwin," and so I got an agreeable and deserved tempban, because you're the caster in the middle of a cast so you call the shots. No problem. Then you slandered me and permabanned me (yourself) when I said "Don't slander me, bro."
You are lying again publicly pretending I said something completely ridiculous because you're too much of a coward to admit your own mistake. What a clown. Lying scumbag.

Also, do I really have no explain to you what "objectively offensive" means? It's great that your buddy Vasa was not offended. Do you truly believe that means that nobody else could take offense to it? If you were trying to 'talk like temp0' and he found it entertaining, do you think that makes it ok? Please do it

BasetradeTV and Rif, much love. Solid casting, cool map intros, and the "first blood" and "mega kill" sounds are fun. But how would you feel when someone is publicly lying, telling others you've said some horrible things? And then when he does it a second time here on these forums?
It's not right.


If you're offended by somone immitating other casters / players in a bad way, for your sake don't watch homestory cup... Like never or 2GD or Incontrol for that matter.

See you never

It is possible for two people to tell the exact same joke and one sounds funny and the other sounds inappropriate. Did you know that was possible? You just learned something
You watch 30 rock? Remember when Tracy calls Twofer the n word, then Twofer says it to Tracy and everyone freaks out? Light bulb over ur head?
You're a little late to white knight anyway. We've already established his Vasa impression had mixed reviews in chat, to put it nicely.


Do you know you sound a little too aggressive ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
partouf
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Netherlands405 Posts
January 16 2014 13:55 GMT
#64
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm not going to quote this guy, as I'm not going to pretend I remember anything of what happened many months ago. I can reason that someone might feel hurt because he or she got a temp- or perma-ban in someone's chat channel. But as one of many mods on the BasetradeTv channel, I can honestly tell anyone that we hardly ever ban anyone. If you have been legitimately banned and it wasn't a missclick meant for someone else, then I can tell you I'm 100% sure the bannee deserved it. There's only 1 rule on the channel, it's not that hard.


That said,

Pengwin is one of the better community casters (and no, I don't mean the many others are bad), and I'm positive that Madals and Pengwin will do the players and the matches in this season's Challenger justice. I'm really excited for these matches!
[update twitchuser set banned=1 where lastmessage like '%nohomo%';] - twitter.com/@partouf
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:27:30
January 16 2014 14:04 GMT
#65
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day
madals
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom624 Posts
January 16 2014 14:24 GMT
#66
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?
Caster: @Madals91 http://www.youtube.com/Madals91 <--
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 16 2014 14:35 GMT
#67
On January 16 2014 23:24 madals wrote:
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?

Heromarine!
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12882 Posts
January 16 2014 14:39 GMT
#68
On January 16 2014 23:24 madals wrote:
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?

jjakji
San
Happy

God I love the Wcs eu, great line ups
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
January 16 2014 14:44 GMT
#69
On January 16 2014 23:04 NovaMB wrote:
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day

They are 16, not 10. When did you go to bed when you were 16?
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
January 16 2014 14:44 GMT
#70
On January 16 2014 23:44 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:04 NovaMB wrote:
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day

They are 16, not 10. When did you go to bed when you were 16?

When I had school the next day? 10pm
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:45:41
January 16 2014 14:45 GMT
#71
On January 16 2014 23:44 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:44 grs wrote:
On January 16 2014 23:04 NovaMB wrote:
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day

They are 16, not 10. When did you go to bed when you were 16?

When I had school the next day? 10pm


You sir didn't play enough BW ! Damn i had so few sleeping hours when i was young and playing that game :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 14:46:28
January 16 2014 14:45 GMT
#72
On January 16 2014 23:45 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:44 NovaMB wrote:
On January 16 2014 23:44 grs wrote:
On January 16 2014 23:04 NovaMB wrote:
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day

They are 16, not 10. When did you go to bed when you were 16?

When I had school the next day? 10pm


You sir didn't play enough BW !

I was a Nintendo kid. Still am
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
January 16 2014 15:01 GMT
#73
On January 16 2014 23:44 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:44 grs wrote:
On January 16 2014 23:04 NovaMB wrote:
I find it odd that they let the two 16 year olds duke it out at 9pm on a school day

They are 16, not 10. When did you go to bed when you were 16?

When I had school the next day? 10pm

Wow, that is an answer I did not expect :O
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 16 2014 15:27 GMT
#74
On January 16 2014 07:44 Paragleiber wrote:
Bad luck for elfi and Bly but otherwise it doesn't look too bad.

And Grubby will play somebody that he almost played in 2007 already.
http://www.wcg.com/6th/tournament/2007/tm_match_single_R16_wc.html

You meann bad luck for San? Its PvP vs elfi :D
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 16 2014 15:29 GMT
#75
On January 16 2014 23:35 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 23:24 madals wrote:
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?

Heromarine!

Welmu & elfi
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#76
On January 16 2014 20:25 kellymilkies wrote:
GO SORTOF


Kelly pls :D
Nani needs you too, not only SortOf.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#77
Interesting matches, some will be pretty one sided i think tho.
RIP MKP
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States766 Posts
January 16 2014 17:23 GMT
#78
anybody know when the NA matchups will be announced?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
January 16 2014 17:28 GMT
#79
On January 16 2014 23:24 madals wrote:
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?

San vs elfi
Kas vs Zanster
Showtime vs Morrow
Firecake vs Strelok
Daisy vs Bly
Starbuck vs Heromarine

That would be the ones, I look forward to the most.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
January 16 2014 17:36 GMT
#80
On January 16 2014 23:24 madals wrote:
Super excited to be casting all these games with PengWin.

I can confirm that I will be in the ESL UK Studio for all of the broadcasts too

What games are people most looking forward to seeing?


Happy/ABomB
San/elfi
Starbuck/Heromarine
Daisy/Bly

Looking forward to seeing all the relatively unknown players; you know at least some of them will get facerolled but I bet a few look great and pull major upsets too.
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