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RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
May 21 2013 00:29 GMT
#21
I actually posted about this earlier in the SC2 thread, as I wasn't sure it justified a thread of its own - but I guess it does, really. I first found the article on the Guardian Android app - it was one of the featured stories for the US news section, which kind of surprised me when I stumbled across it! Really quite prominent, which is nice.

It's nice to see this kind of stuff published by the Guardian, especially since Rock, Paper, Shotgun (PC games blog run by various PC Gamer UK staffers) only even mention StarCraft II once in a blue moon.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
May 21 2013 00:37 GMT
#22
Good stuff. Professionally written.
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#23
Surely Idra can beat this guy:

[image loading]
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 21 2013 02:34 GMT
#24
Nice article, the most surprising part is that this is getting coverage in a publication as prestigious as The Guardian. Whatever you think about Idra, this just underlines the point that he makes for good copy, as they say in the biz. He's the Sean Avery of e-sports (for you NHL fans.)
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
May 21 2013 02:52 GMT
#25
I like the professionalism of the article. Good piece of journalism and I'll gladly support The Guardian if they continue discussing pro-gaming in this manner.
mjuuy
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway506 Posts
May 21 2013 02:55 GMT
#26
On May 21 2013 09:52 Thrill wrote:
Surely Idra can beat this guy:

[image loading]

Yeah, it's #1 now.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
May 21 2013 02:56 GMT
#27
Excellent writing; clear and concise. Maybe the best explanation of esports I've seen in a mainstream publication. Interesting story to boot!
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MateShade
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia736 Posts
May 21 2013 02:57 GMT
#28
This article is so badly written, rookie journalist?
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 21 2013 02:59 GMT
#29
What's funny is people were curious of BM people in esports. The only difference is, in real sports, if you can play, you can get away with it lol.

braller
Profile Joined January 2013
96 Posts
May 21 2013 03:01 GMT
#30
On May 21 2013 11:59 kakaman wrote:
What's funny is people were curious of BM people in esports. The only difference is, in real sports, if you can play, you can get away with it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDzXV7IgiI


He was banned for eight months because of that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
May 21 2013 03:01 GMT
#31
I don't trust the Guardian or the Observer. But I do trust Grack
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kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
May 21 2013 03:03 GMT
#32
On May 21 2013 12:01 braller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 11:59 kakaman wrote:
What's funny is people were curious of BM people in esports. The only difference is, in real sports, if you can play, you can get away with it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDzXV7IgiI


He was banned for eight months because of that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.


Yeah he was banned by the FA, not Man U. It's like saying MLG banning Greg or something like that. Also, United did not let him go, which is what EG did to Greg.
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
May 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#33
On May 21 2013 12:03 kakaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2013 12:01 braller wrote:
On May 21 2013 11:59 kakaman wrote:
What's funny is people were curious of BM people in esports. The only difference is, in real sports, if you can play, you can get away with it lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRDzXV7IgiI


He was banned for eight months because of that, so I have no idea what you're talking about.


Yeah he was banned by the FA, not Man U. It's like saying MLG banning Greg or something like that. Also, United did not let him go, which is what EG did to Greg.


Yeah, success lets you stay. Kinda like Suarez at Liverpool not getting tossed from the team.
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Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
May 21 2013 03:10 GMT
#34
lol already 2 mainstream papers write about Idra. Nice.
Hangman89
Profile Joined May 2013
Singapore43 Posts
May 21 2013 03:17 GMT
#35
It was a great article. And in my head somehow i read all of Idras quotes in his voice. Lol
VasHeR
Profile Joined June 2011
166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 04:26:29
May 21 2013 04:25 GMT
#36
Just to put things into perspective here, this article was not written as praise or acknowledgment of the hard work and accomplishments of anybody in esports. It was about how one of the most popular Starcraft 2 players outside of Korea is a former top player turned troll magnet who got fired for his nerd rage and disrespect towards other players and the SC2 community. Is this the kind of exposure esports needs? Why are people proud of this?
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 21 2013 08:40 GMT
#37
I was having a conversation with a friend, and I said there's a 99% chance he gets kicked for this. No chance he doesn't get kicked for this


How does that even work?
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 21 2013 09:00 GMT
#38
Great article, but you probably made a mistake with the url of Real Talk's video, when you said "Two days after being fired, Fields announced his retirement in an interview", problem is that the said video is one year old :p
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 21 2013 09:10 GMT
#39
On May 21 2013 17:40 Nekovivie wrote:
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I was having a conversation with a friend, and I said there's a 99% chance he gets kicked for this. No chance he doesn't get kicked for this


How does that even work?


He's a math major. It's nothing to do with numbers.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
ScGDarkness
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom9 Posts
May 26 2013 00:41 GMT
#40
The Guardian is one of the most read websites in the UK and a major publication in the newspaper world. Nice to see.
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