• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:52
CET 10:52
KST 18:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational5SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Starcraft 2 will not be in the Esports World Cup When will we find out if there are more tournament
Tourneys
$70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1500 users

[Rumor] SPL New Season, Possible Foreign Team Addition - P…

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 10:55:14
November 25 2012 10:51 GMT
#41
On November 25 2012 17:38 Fionn wrote:
Jeez, just hurry up and fucking merge already, KeSPA. It makes too much sense not to just fuse GSTL/Proleague in 2013.

Only can do weekends on OGN? Hey, the other two nights can be on GOM. Only have seven teams? GSTL has enough to make it an actual Proleague and not a dwindling amount of teams every single season.

Proleague is not going to do anything but continue to dissolve until ESF/KeSPA come together and make a real Proleague. I'm not saying LG-IM vs. KT is going to start the new SC2 boom period in Korea, but it would be a good start. Sadly, with talks of fees and ESF teams other than FXO, LG-IM and possibly Startale with enough money to pay it, we'll probably never see KeSPA letting minnows like HoSeo play on OGN.


The lack of stability of eSF teams is worrisome and could also be one of the reasons when KeSPA does not want to include them. When you're trying to run a full-league style tournament like pro-league. Especially because pro-league has multiples rounds in one season.

Although I definitely think more stable teams like LG-IM, ST, FXO should definitely be included, there could also be an issue that LG-IM, ST, FXO don't want to "betray" the other eSF teams and go into pro league by themselves.

I wonder who the foreign team is though with TLO leaving Korea TL is down to HerO, TaeJa, and Zenio. EG currently has Huk, PuMa, and JYP but I guess they could potentially send more players (IdrA, Stephano, etc.) over relatively easily. The PL scheduling has to be a nightmare for eSF teams and Foreign teams alike though if their players are trying to attend foreign events. Maybe a foreign union team TL+EG? That could work? I don't think FXO can be considered a foreign team considering they're a part of eSF and we're talking about the Korean roster.
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
November 25 2012 10:53 GMT
#42
I call it, Axiom/EG partnership to go play in the SPL ! It would be sick but i don't think Ax has the money for it !
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 25 2012 10:57 GMT
#43
On November 25 2012 17:53 Battleaxe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 17:51 digmouse wrote:
My bet is on EG, as incontrol already hinted a big move.


My thoughts exactly after reading the OP

This so many times.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
November 25 2012 10:58 GMT
#44
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 25 2012 11:02 GMT
#45
A foreign team shouldn't join Proleague just for the hell of it. They should only join if they think they have what it takes to have a respectable season.

Also having only 6 players is a terrible idea for Proleague, because it makes everyone so much easier to snipe given map orders.

Sigh, I really home Kespa and eSF join forces one day
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
November 25 2012 11:04 GMT
#46
On November 25 2012 19:58 quannguyen wrote:
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.


Byul, Puma, Huk, JYP, Thorzain, and Stephano would make 6. Plus they may have others they may be getting.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 25 2012 11:10 GMT
#47
On November 25 2012 20:02 lichter wrote:
A foreign team shouldn't join Proleague just for the hell of it. They should only join if they think they have what it takes to have a respectable season.

Well, considering they're replacing Air Force Ace.........

Haha just kidding. Probably won't reflect very nicely on the foreign scene if that really happens.
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:15:02
November 25 2012 11:12 GMT
#48
On November 25 2012 19:38 Laryleprakon wrote:
EG to join pro league and add a team house + LOL team (shortly after) imo.


That would be siiiiiiiick ! This would be the first time a foreign team invest so much money at once in korea ! (and maybe in the world)

Team house+ Players+Play in the PL+LoL roster+Logistic+convincing the player to stay for an entire PL season (or maybe more)

I know EG isn't the team you think of when we speak abvout money problems but still ... O_O
rly ?
MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
November 25 2012 11:18 GMT
#49
Is there any rumour or news about what maps will be used for the next proleague?
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 25 2012 11:24 GMT
#50
On November 25 2012 20:18 MyFirstProbe wrote:
Is there any rumour or news about what maps will be used for the next proleague?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382258

Given the recent showmatch between STX vs SKT, I think that Guillotine, transistor and desert flower will be in the map pool. I don't know for the other maps.
rly ?
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
November 25 2012 11:25 GMT
#51
In Starcraft 2, only Korea has a league for professional teams [T/N: Hmm... Maybe the writer hasn't heard too much about some foreign team leagues].


To be fair, all of the foreign team leagues are online. Really not the same thing as in-person matches at all.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 25 2012 11:28 GMT
#52
On November 25 2012 20:25 Kettchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
In Starcraft 2, only Korea has a league for professional teams [T/N: Hmm... Maybe the writer hasn't heard too much about some foreign team leagues].


To be fair, all of the foreign team leagues are online. Really not the same thing as in-person matches at all.

Ah that's true actually. Thanks
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:34:37
November 25 2012 11:31 GMT
#53
Well ... this will be interesting to say the least.

I like the idea of an EG/Axiom partnership in Korea.

Sucks EG didn't get MMA if EG is indeed the team that is going to be replacing AirFoce Ace.

What if it turns out to be MJ Team! dundundun
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 25 2012 11:32 GMT
#54
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#55
On November 25 2012 20:32 red4ce wrote:
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.


their A team is only composed by 5 player :/
rly ?
MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
November 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#56
On November 25 2012 20:37 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:32 red4ce wrote:
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.


their A team is only composed by 5 player :/


Then they just bring Harstem over :D
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
November 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#57
On November 25 2012 20:04 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:58 quannguyen wrote:
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.


Byul, Puma, Huk, JYP, Thorzain, and Stephano would make 6. Plus they may have others they may be getting.


Is Byul already acquired by EG? O.O. I didn't see any news about that.
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#58
I'm not sure whether I'd rather have a GOM/eSF team in the Proleague or a foreign team.

Really looking forward to this starting, either way.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 25 2012 11:52 GMT
#59
This is terrible news. fucking idiots on both sides of ESF and Kespa... why not make it a good 12+ team League with both sides? That would have been what SC2 needed in Korea and internationally.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 25 2012 12:05 GMT
#60
On November 25 2012 19:51 PixelNite wrote:
They have Byul (probably) , JYP, Puma, HuK and Thorzain will go to Korea soon (after or during IPL5 I think). Plus Hwanni the manager/coach/badass/whatever he is.


that team is very weak imo. it's more likely to be FXO
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 180
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 860
Hyun 152
Mini 151
EffOrt 130
Shine 113
Killer 102
JulyZerg 92
Hm[arnc] 77
Shinee 70
Mong 68
[ Show more ]
Mind 52
Movie 48
Shuttle 40
Sacsri 26
Nal_rA 25
HiyA 25
zelot 25
ToSsGirL 19
Bale 17
NotJumperer 16
GoRush 14
Soma 12
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Sexy 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe72
League of Legends
JimRising 869
C9.Mang0340
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1121
shoxiejesuss922
allub221
Other Games
summit1g6876
ceh9493
Pyrionflax186
XaKoH 175
Mew2King105
QueenE26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1003
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 43
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH237
• LUISG 21
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos985
• Stunt504
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8m
OSC
1h 8m
Clem vs Cure
ByuN vs TBD
TBD vs Solar
MaxPax vs TBD
Krystianer vs TBD
ShoWTimE vs TBD
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
3 days
BSL 21
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.