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bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 10:55:14
November 25 2012 10:51 GMT
#41
On November 25 2012 17:38 Fionn wrote:
Jeez, just hurry up and fucking merge already, KeSPA. It makes too much sense not to just fuse GSTL/Proleague in 2013.

Only can do weekends on OGN? Hey, the other two nights can be on GOM. Only have seven teams? GSTL has enough to make it an actual Proleague and not a dwindling amount of teams every single season.

Proleague is not going to do anything but continue to dissolve until ESF/KeSPA come together and make a real Proleague. I'm not saying LG-IM vs. KT is going to start the new SC2 boom period in Korea, but it would be a good start. Sadly, with talks of fees and ESF teams other than FXO, LG-IM and possibly Startale with enough money to pay it, we'll probably never see KeSPA letting minnows like HoSeo play on OGN.


The lack of stability of eSF teams is worrisome and could also be one of the reasons when KeSPA does not want to include them. When you're trying to run a full-league style tournament like pro-league. Especially because pro-league has multiples rounds in one season.

Although I definitely think more stable teams like LG-IM, ST, FXO should definitely be included, there could also be an issue that LG-IM, ST, FXO don't want to "betray" the other eSF teams and go into pro league by themselves.

I wonder who the foreign team is though with TLO leaving Korea TL is down to HerO, TaeJa, and Zenio. EG currently has Huk, PuMa, and JYP but I guess they could potentially send more players (IdrA, Stephano, etc.) over relatively easily. The PL scheduling has to be a nightmare for eSF teams and Foreign teams alike though if their players are trying to attend foreign events. Maybe a foreign union team TL+EG? That could work? I don't think FXO can be considered a foreign team considering they're a part of eSF and we're talking about the Korean roster.
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
November 25 2012 10:53 GMT
#42
I call it, Axiom/EG partnership to go play in the SPL ! It would be sick but i don't think Ax has the money for it !
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 25 2012 10:57 GMT
#43
On November 25 2012 17:53 Battleaxe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 17:51 digmouse wrote:
My bet is on EG, as incontrol already hinted a big move.


My thoughts exactly after reading the OP

This so many times.
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quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
November 25 2012 10:58 GMT
#44
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 25 2012 11:02 GMT
#45
A foreign team shouldn't join Proleague just for the hell of it. They should only join if they think they have what it takes to have a respectable season.

Also having only 6 players is a terrible idea for Proleague, because it makes everyone so much easier to snipe given map orders.

Sigh, I really home Kespa and eSF join forces one day
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
November 25 2012 11:04 GMT
#46
On November 25 2012 19:58 quannguyen wrote:
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.


Byul, Puma, Huk, JYP, Thorzain, and Stephano would make 6. Plus they may have others they may be getting.
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 25 2012 11:10 GMT
#47
On November 25 2012 20:02 lichter wrote:
A foreign team shouldn't join Proleague just for the hell of it. They should only join if they think they have what it takes to have a respectable season.

Well, considering they're replacing Air Force Ace.........

Haha just kidding. Probably won't reflect very nicely on the foreign scene if that really happens.
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algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:15:02
November 25 2012 11:12 GMT
#48
On November 25 2012 19:38 Laryleprakon wrote:
EG to join pro league and add a team house + LOL team (shortly after) imo.


That would be siiiiiiiick ! This would be the first time a foreign team invest so much money at once in korea ! (and maybe in the world)

Team house+ Players+Play in the PL+LoL roster+Logistic+convincing the player to stay for an entire PL season (or maybe more)

I know EG isn't the team you think of when we speak abvout money problems but still ... O_O
rly ?
MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
November 25 2012 11:18 GMT
#49
Is there any rumour or news about what maps will be used for the next proleague?
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 25 2012 11:24 GMT
#50
On November 25 2012 20:18 MyFirstProbe wrote:
Is there any rumour or news about what maps will be used for the next proleague?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382258

Given the recent showmatch between STX vs SKT, I think that Guillotine, transistor and desert flower will be in the map pool. I don't know for the other maps.
rly ?
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
November 25 2012 11:25 GMT
#51
In Starcraft 2, only Korea has a league for professional teams [T/N: Hmm... Maybe the writer hasn't heard too much about some foreign team leagues].


To be fair, all of the foreign team leagues are online. Really not the same thing as in-person matches at all.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 25 2012 11:28 GMT
#52
On November 25 2012 20:25 Kettchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
In Starcraft 2, only Korea has a league for professional teams [T/N: Hmm... Maybe the writer hasn't heard too much about some foreign team leagues].


To be fair, all of the foreign team leagues are online. Really not the same thing as in-person matches at all.

Ah that's true actually. Thanks
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yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-25 11:34:37
November 25 2012 11:31 GMT
#53
Well ... this will be interesting to say the least.

I like the idea of an EG/Axiom partnership in Korea.

Sucks EG didn't get MMA if EG is indeed the team that is going to be replacing AirFoce Ace.

What if it turns out to be MJ Team! dundundun
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 25 2012 11:32 GMT
#54
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
November 25 2012 11:37 GMT
#55
On November 25 2012 20:32 red4ce wrote:
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.


their A team is only composed by 5 player :/
rly ?
MyFirstProbe
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands294 Posts
November 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#56
On November 25 2012 20:37 algue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 20:32 red4ce wrote:
It's gotta be Fnatic. They're already made up of many Koreans based in Korea and their presence in the GSTL is almost superficial. Playing in SPL would at least give them regular exposure and playing time, as opposed to the GSTL where they play a few matches and then get knocked out.


their A team is only composed by 5 player :/


Then they just bring Harstem over :D
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
November 25 2012 11:44 GMT
#57
On November 25 2012 20:04 Kiyo. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 19:58 quannguyen wrote:
I don't think EG will ever have 6 players (the minimum for SPL) in Korea, unless they merge with Fnatic. So a foreign team as the 8th participant seems highly unlikely.


Byul, Puma, Huk, JYP, Thorzain, and Stephano would make 6. Plus they may have others they may be getting.


Is Byul already acquired by EG? O.O. I didn't see any news about that.
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 25 2012 11:50 GMT
#58
I'm not sure whether I'd rather have a GOM/eSF team in the Proleague or a foreign team.

Really looking forward to this starting, either way.
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 25 2012 11:52 GMT
#59
This is terrible news. fucking idiots on both sides of ESF and Kespa... why not make it a good 12+ team League with both sides? That would have been what SC2 needed in Korea and internationally.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 25 2012 12:05 GMT
#60
On November 25 2012 19:51 PixelNite wrote:
They have Byul (probably) , JYP, Puma, HuK and Thorzain will go to Korea soon (after or during IPL5 I think). Plus Hwanni the manager/coach/badass/whatever he is.


that team is very weak imo. it's more likely to be FXO
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