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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19387 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:44 SimDawg wrote: 5 million more people like yourself and this league is done for! That comment's not necessary. AsianEcksDragon has a right to feel that way. Your reply is just going to incite arguments about nothing. I understand where AsianEcksDragon is coming from, the top KESPA players are already focusing on one major tournament that isn't SC2 based. They have quite a workload. It's not the Kespa player's fault they were put in this situation and deserve mad respect for what they are fighting through. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:42 AsianEcksDragon wrote: This is so unfair to the original kespa players. I'm done with OGN. Care to elaborate on that? They don't even have to face the real competition and instead get their own separate qualifiers, which guarantees some spots for them (about half the spots I guess?). I think it's fair to give them a little extra bonus while they are still transitioning, but keeping them all by themselves would be stupid, you need to face real opponents if you want to improve yourselves. I think they found a nice compromise with this. | ||
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Kryt0s
Germany209 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:49 Zeroxk wrote: MVP won the first GSL Code S so I think it's proper he wins the first SC2 OSL The first one to win GSL was FruitDealer Edit: Nvm, you DID say Code S. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
That was the very first GSL (open season1). Zeroxk is talking about the first code S. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:44 SimDawg wrote: 5 million more people like yourself and this league is done for! I'll give it a year or two. There are already dozens of foreign tournaments and the GSL in Korea. OGN does not have a duopoly on SC2 like it had with BW. Even the GSL isn't particularly huge in Korea and oversea fans wouldn't need to stay up until 5 am to watch it when they already have IGN, MLG, and ESL. I'm just dreading the possibility of Zergbong winning an OSL playing SC2 and gets mentioned along with the likes of Nal_ra, Stork and Effort. | ||
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Kryt0s
Germany209 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:55 ACrow wrote: That was the very first GSL (open season1). Zeroxk is talking about the first code S. In the moment you posted, I updated my post xD | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19387 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:51 ACrow wrote: Care to elaborate on that? They don't even have to face the real competition and instead get their own separate qualifiers, which guarantees some spots for them (about half the spots I guess?). I think it's fair to give them a little extra bonus while they are still transitioning, but keeping them all by themselves would be stupid, you need to face real opponents if you want to improve yourselves. I think they found a nice compromise with this. The thing is, this has been a premier tournament for KESPA players for over a decade. And now they have to compete in the next one under practiced against the top dogs of non Kespa SC2. Like in my post above, the top 8 players are practicing for SC:BW and SC2 right now and now there is a demand for them to compete and show good games at the qualifiers. Even if the qualifiers are seperate, they still have to practice 2 different games for the proleague while trying to fight through the OSL against player playing one game. While I"m excited for a new OSL, the timing is horrible. PL coaches are notorious for preventing players from practicing for individual leagues when team league is the primary focus in this era of PL. There is lots more to be said but that's a summary of it. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:56 AsianEcksDragon wrote: I'll give it a year or two. There are already dozens of foreign tournaments and the GSL in Korea. OGN does not have a duopoly on SC2 like it had with BW. Even the GSL isn't particularly huge in Korea and oversea fans wouldn't need to stay up unti 5 am to watch it when they have IGN, MLG, and ESL. I'm just dreading the possibility of Zergbong winning an OSL playing SC2 and gets mentioned along with the likes of Nal_ra, Stork and Effort. ...The likes of Effort? | ||
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:51 BisuDagger wrote: That comment's not necessary. AsianEcksDragon has a right to feel that way. Your reply is just going to incite arguments about nothing. I understand where AsianEcksDragon is coming from, the top KESPA players are already focusing on one major tournament that isn't SC2 based. They have quite a workload. It's not the Kespa player's fault they were put in this situation and deserve mad respect for what they are fighting through. Well that's probably precisely why they have a separate qualifier, I think ogn is being considerate by not making them qualify with the current sc2 players... E: didn't see your reply a couple posts above this. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
Is this a troll? Effort is really good. | ||
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VoidEnergy
United Kingdom5 Posts
It will be interesting to see who makes it through the qualifiers considering there are lots of candidates who could reasonably have a chance depending on brackets but only 8/12/16 (does anyone know) places. This might be how they will stop stomping-by-GSL-players, along possibly with the format and seeds, if that even is a problem. Also, the qualifiers are only 2 days with Bo3 single elimination (?); we will probably see some lesser known SC2 players, which also might help give KeSPA players a better chance. With that said I hope to watch OSL when the season starts properly. The OSL format is probably one of the best formats for a ~32(40) man tournament I've seen. Seeing bw players and current SC2 players play will be interesting. I wonder if they will use single games in the Ro16 though as in SC2 Bo1 matches are considered to be a very bad idea. How well did this work in bw and how much more stable was bw than SC2? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19387 Posts
It's more about what he has accomplished in the OSL I believe. Of all zergs he picked Effort and not the Great JD or Savior. But for newer fans Effort is the name to be known since he defeated Flash 2 years ago. But honestly, so many other legends to choose from, kinda funny he chose Effort. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
On June 16 2012 02:33 BisuDagger wrote: It's more about what he has accomplished in the OSL I believe. Of all zergs he picked Effort and not the Great JD or Savior. But for newer fans Effort is the name to be known since he defeated Flash 2 years ago. But honestly, so many other legends to choose from, kinda funny he chose Effort. You'd have to win more than 1 OSL to be worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as JD or Flash. Effort would probably smash Savior as hard as Bisu did. If you're gonna point out a name that's out of place, it should be Nal_ra. Stork and Effort are definitely far better than he and Savior. | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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SilverJohnny
United States885 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:56 AsianEcksDragon wrote: I'll give it a year or two. There are already dozens of foreign tournaments and the GSL in Korea. OGN does not have a duopoly on SC2 like it had with BW. Even the GSL isn't particularly huge in Korea and oversea fans wouldn't need to stay up until 5 am to watch it when they already have IGN, MLG, and ESL. I'm just dreading the possibility of Zergbong winning an OSL playing SC2 and gets mentioned along with the likes of Nal_ra, Stork and Effort. (Slightly Off-Topic/Rant) + Show Spoiler + Why? just because he was Zergbong in bw and wasn't the best, he's not allowed to make himself into one of the hands down best sc2 Zergs and wreck people? I understand what you mean, but obviously its a different game and there's no reason to arbitrarily say "oh god these scrubs are suddenly good/decent, everything must be shit and I hate it!" That's the attitude I feel like many BW exclusive people have, and while everyone is entitled to their opinions just hating because players that were formerly bad are now good is silly. Its not like Nestea winning an OSL now makes Nal_ra, Stork, or Effort any less good or their accomplishment less meaningful. On Topic: I think its a bit sad that the OSL will just pass quickly in to sc2. I only managed to watch the last few, but I loved every second of them. I hope they can transfer all the things that made OSL awesome into SC2, and that it succeeds. Transferring to sc2 may seem bad to some, but letting such a prestigious league just fade away would be worse imo. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19387 Posts
On June 16 2012 02:39 AsianEcksDragon wrote: You'd have to win more than 1 OSL to be worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as JD or Flash. Effort would probably smash Savior as hard as Bisu did. If you're gonna point out a name that's out of place, it should be Nal_ra. Stork and Effort are definitely far better than he and Savior. The heck? Savior was a far more dominant player then effort will ever be. And as for Stork even if his vZ is historically his weakest match up you can definitely compare him to savior. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L7mJb.png) I had your back until this post. Now you're just frustrating. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
On June 16 2012 01:51 BisuDagger wrote: That comment's not necessary. AsianEcksDragon has a right to feel that way. Your reply is just going to incite arguments about nothing. I understand where AsianEcksDragon is coming from, the top KESPA players are already focusing on one major tournament that isn't SC2 based. They have quite a workload. It's not the Kespa player's fault they were put in this situation and deserve mad respect for what they are fighting through. My post was bad, I will agree. The original was just as poor. A complete vomiting of feelings in one line with no feelings, context or much value. So while I probably should have restrained myself, I don't think I was out of line to mock the ridiculousness of opinions like that. In fact, whoever that was has probably "lost all respect" at some point for Wheat, Incontrol, and some various members of of the community. People (like yourself) who think these useless one liners are worth defending certainly don't do much to bring up the tone of these forums. I'll try and be more constructive in my criticism in the future, but if I slip once or twice again into mockery, please don't hold it against me. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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jabberwockzerg
United States294 Posts
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