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CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 21:09:59
March 14 2011 20:58 GMT
#1
I've decided to release a good sized replay pack of recent games I've had to help promote the new team I've joined called The KiwiClone Army!

Our team has set up a stream at Justin.tv and we have the ad viewership deal, so that means if we stream and get a lot of viewers, you viewing the stream actually directly supports The KiwiClone Army financially! The revenue generated could potentially help pay for new team gear or flight tickets to LAN events. So check out our stream to support us the next time you see it in the streams list!

+ Show Spoiler [KiwiClone Army Info!] +
The KiwiClone Army's Site

Here is my team's main lineup:
(Z)Pono         (~3200 masters NA, 2500 masters KR)
(Z)Bad ( 3500 masters NA, ? KR)
(P)CecilSunkure (~3500 masters NA, 800? diamond KR)
(P)Wannabecool ( 4000 masters NA, 2000 masters KR)
(T)mizore ( 3200 +400 bonus pool masters NA, 1900 masters KR)
(T)SiN (~4000 masters NA)

Link to Stream - We'll be streaming ladder and practice sessions. When I stream I enjoy interacting with the chat while providing insight to the games I've played.

Feel free to ask any questions about my play in this thread, and I'll gladly answer them. Here are some unique characteristics of my play you might find interesting:
  • PvP - I never 4 gate, and I still play successfully at high Masters level.
  • PvZ - Hardly ever 6 gate as I feel gateway unit pushes are weak in general. I also try to avoid colossus and templar, as I find using immortals and voidrays very fun!
  • PvT - I have recently adopted a very aggressive style of PvT, where I utilize heavy aggression while taking my natural as well as using large offensives with sentries. Overall, I use sentries quite a bit in PvT to an interesting degree.

Replay pack: >> <<
Grimez
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands5 Posts
March 14 2011 22:24 GMT
#2
Hey man, thanks for releasing those replays, I'll be looking in to them to see if there is stuff I can learn from, I'm mostly interested in your PvP, seeing as you stated that you never 4 gate. I wish you and your team the best of luck gaining sponsorship money to go to those tournaments and stuff.
imba
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 22:55 GMT
#3
Wow thanks! I was kinda scared nobody was going to post replies to this topic D:
WindOw
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden407 Posts
March 14 2011 23:00 GMT
#4
Maybe tl ough to make a own topic for rep packs.... anyway ill probably check some games out
AKA WindOw[InCa] (BW) | TheMisT (SC2) | NaNiwa FC founder
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
March 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#5
nice. interested to see your PvP style, im sick of 4gating
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 23:03 GMT
#6
On March 15 2011 08:02 L3g3nd_ wrote:
nice. interested to see your PvP style, im sick of 4gating

I've been working on that popularized 3 Stalker build, trying to find a good time and a good way to go stargate tech without dieing, but haven't gotten something extremely solid yet. Although the things I do should wreck all players in lower levels
majestouch
Profile Joined December 2010
United States395 Posts
March 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#7
i wonder if there are any games in there of me 8pooling you....

if any reps in that pack cecil gets 8pooled by the illustrious bluewaffle. i would be it.

cool stuffs dawg.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#8
On March 15 2011 08:04 majestouch wrote:
i wonder if there are any games in there of me 8pooling you....

if any reps in that pack cecil gets 8pooled by the illustrious bluewaffle. i would be it.

cool stuffs dawg.

No I actually didn't record those TT

But yeah bluewaffle is a pretty good zerg. Lost twice in a row to him on ladder.
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 15 2011 00:13 GMT
#9
Loaded up all these replays into a folder to watch soon! Looking forward to gaining some insight.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
March 15 2011 00:37 GMT
#10
stealing your stuff right now

thanks thanks thanks thanks
RubikPi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
March 15 2011 01:19 GMT
#11
"PvP - I never 4 gate, and I still play successfully at high Masters level."

I love you <3 Have been trying (quite unsuccessfully) to avoid defending 4 gate with another 4 gate, so I'm definitely looking forward to looking these over. Thank you
-Shade-
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia11 Posts
March 15 2011 01:33 GMT
#12
Omg thank you finally a PvP strat which doesn't revolve around the 4 gate rush!

Much <3
Day[9] made me do it :)
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
March 15 2011 01:56 GMT
#13
I'm surprised most people are interested in the PvP. I've written a few wiki pages about some nice PvP openings which detail exactly what I do
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
March 15 2011 02:32 GMT
#14
i downloaded this strictly for the PvPs. Difficult MU
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 02:59:10
March 15 2011 02:35 GMT
#15
Should be cool to see some alternative PvP builds, hope i can emulate them a bit. thanks


edit. Just gone through one of the PvP's on Xel naga.. Fantastic building placement :O totally reworked the way i think about my base layout
Cryogenic
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada75 Posts
March 15 2011 03:04 GMT
#16
I too am going to download this, because PvP is such a headache. The only matchup I have trouble with. Thanks Cecil!
"If you don't go after what you want, you'll never have it. If you don't ask, the answer is always no. If you don't step forward, you're always in the same place." - Nora Roberts .:| Scarlett |:.
Noyjeetut
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 15 2011 03:23 GMT
#17
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?
RubikPi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7 Posts
March 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#18
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 05:38:47
March 15 2011 05:37 GMT
#19
On March 15 2011 13:03 RubikPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)

It was actually a calculated risk. I could have kept 2 stalkers and a zealot on the pylon, but instead chased the probe with my other stalker to see where more proxy pylons would be laid.


On March 15 2011 11:35 Eleaven wrote:
Should be cool to see some alternative PvP builds, hope i can emulate them a bit. thanks


edit. Just gone through one of the PvP's on Xel naga.. Fantastic building placement :O totally reworked the way i think about my base layout

Thanks, glad to know my play helped you out!
Noyjeetut
Profile Joined March 2011
2 Posts
March 15 2011 05:49 GMT
#20
On March 15 2011 13:03 RubikPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:23 Noyjeetut wrote:
CecilSunkure, I was wondering when you do your PvP 3 stalker into robo build what would you do if the toss were to steal your gas? If you went zealot to destroy the gas would you then just transition into a 4gate to counter their 4gate?

In Replay #356 of this replay pack the other toss does steal his second gas on Shat Temple. He pulls two probes off to kill it, then with just the zealot when it arrives. He continued on his 2 gate robo build though and pulled the game out. While there was a lucky timing that helped him, it still seemed pretty solid. (Lucky timing of killing a pylon just (within a second) before a few enemy toss units warped in on it)



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