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On October 27 2010 22:52 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2010 22:43 attackfighter wrote:
that system seems really unprofessional, 75% of the players have penatly points
I think it's a way for them to just save some money instead of to enforce good rules. although I've never been a fan of these tiny 'impromptu' tournament things anyways. rather have more proffesional ones like GSL, I don't even see how this "EPS" thing is even alive. Then they should follow the rules, as guys like Hasu show it is possible. EPS is going on for so many years now(started 2002 or something like that), it is one of the most stable and professional tournaments out there. You should really inform yourself :p This sc2-season is quite stupid, but WC3-EPS was extremely entertaining, especially due to enforced statements.
Absolutely. EPS is extremely well organized I got msged from an admin (not germany EPS obviously) like 10 minutes after naming a replay wrong (named it correctly file-wise, but uploaded it on ESL with just "round 1" or something). If they don't have penalties everyone will start slacking off with all the replays and match statements which defeats the point of having them.
I doesn't really matter if 75% have some penalty points because a small number makes a very small difference to anything.
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135 employees in Cologne, 15 franchise holders, active in 37 countries is not what you call a company? Do some research before you post. Or if you post and get taught better - at least admit it. 
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On October 27 2010 22:52 GreEny K wrote:
I like Naniwa, I dont get why you're all hating on him.
Anyway, this sucks... I think he could have won too, hes great from what I've seen of him.
If you read the posts you'd see why hes getting such heat. He has no respect for representing his sponsor in a good light, no respect for his opponents and no respect for the organization's rules.
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This will not look good for MYM.
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I feel sorry for him since going to germany was solely based on playing in the EPS(as I've understood it) but at the same time cant help but think that he had it coming with how he acts which is just insane. It's not idra bm it's just plain rage issues that he takes out on anyone he meets.
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I'm all for less Naniwa in tournaments, so this is nothing short of good news for me.
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On October 27 2010 23:06 GenoZStriker wrote:
This will not look good for MYM.
Yeap. Lots of shit dropping on them. First the Sunny(?) episode, now this.
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Sound's like he had it coming, and that ESL did everything perfectly professionally to me.
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Yay.. Thats an important step for less waiting inbetween games when watching a tournament stream :p.
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If MYM cared they should've reacted after Naniwa had collected a lot of PP... It's not like he got them all at once.
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On October 27 2010 22:20 Barrin wrote:Show nested quote +Not supised hes got such a bad attitude every time ret won him he was lol OMG ZERG IMBA ROACH IMBA I don't understand why protoss don't make more immortals to pwn roaches. Only need like 1 or 2 collosi to deal with zerglings.
Immortals have shorter range, less mobility (cliff walking), can't kite, don't give cliff vision, do less or similar dps when there are 3 roaches next to each other (30x3=90 vs 50 for immortal), aren't as good versus lings, hydras, drones, static defense, queens. They also can cliff kite ultras a bit and only a few immortals are needed for ultra anyway.
FF + 9 range = lolroach
I've never heard of this guy tbh. Protoss needs more heroes imo. Tester got knocked out of GSL2 qualifiers and white-ra doesn't play as much  . I think there are very few toss (spoiler) left in GSL as well.
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I shouldn't be surprised, but I still am.
I thougth he had a line, but apparently he is his own worst enemy.
Still a pain in the ass to play against so I guess GZ to the rest of the EPS players.
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Naniwa, Idra, laloush, satini should team up and create biggest BM squad ever.
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On October 27 2010 23:06 GenoZStriker wrote:
This will not look good for MYM.
You and I both know MYM hasn't looked good for a while now.
And about suNNy - he left MYM as the Warcraft III manager before SC2 beta was announced, after a giant argument with DeMusliM in the private crew channel. suNNy is in no way fit to manage any players, imo.
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On October 27 2010 23:10 HolydaKing wrote:
If MYM cared they should've reacted after Naniwa had collected a lot of PP... It's not like he got them all at once.
They even have German staff members, it's not like they were unable to help Nani.
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I understand a series like this needs penalty points to discipline players, and I understand that if a player accrues too many penalty points then he will get kicked.
I've no problem with that.
What I really dislike, however, is the rule to link a lessening of the prize money to the penalty points.
What this does is give the series a financial motivation to hand out as many penalty points as they possibly can, because they will save money while at the same time being able to advertise larger prize pools than they actually end up paying.
Naniwa received 9 minor penalty points for a single missing replay, thats a 9% reduction in prize money. If GSL did penalties like that, then they'd save like 7800$ just for a single 9% penalty against the tournament winner.
This feels quite wrong to me.
Not feeling sorry for Naniwa very much though, his degree of BM is a bit too much.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Old MYM interview of Naniwa where he talks about getting kicked out of home, school and went on to living with a friend. He's had it pretty tough but I still don't think he should be so rude to others 24/7.
http://www.mymym.com/en/news/11751.html
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On October 27 2010 23:16 Nixda wrote:
I understand a series like this needs penalty points to discipline players, and I understand that if a player accrues too many penalty points then he will get kicked.
I've no problem with that.
What I really dislike, however, is the rule to link a lessening of the prize money to the penalty points.
What this does is give the series a financial motivation to hand out as many penalty points as they possibly can, because they will save money while at the same time being able to advertise larger prize pools than they actually end up paying.
Naniwa received 9 minor penalty points for a single missing replay, thats a 9% reduction in prize money. If GSL did penalties like that, then they'd save like 7800$ just for a single 9% penalty against the tournament winner.
This feels quite wrong to me.
Not feeling sorry for Naniwa very much though, his degree of BM is a bit too much.
Jesus Christ, at least read some of the posts in the thread before you post.
The prizemoney reduction from Penalty Points is equally distributed between the other players.
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On October 27 2010 23:11 dondake wrote:
Naniwa, Idra, laloush, satini should team up and create biggest BM squad ever.
Idra really isn't bm at all lately o_o
Btw I'm really happy to see Naniwa kicked out, hope he screws up in other tournaments as well. Extremely annoying.
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EPT
