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PROJECTILE
United States226 Posts
On August 23 2010 01:53 KingRajesh wrote: In my opinion, winning by cheese is worse than losing with style. This kind of opinion is those shared by people who don't understand how competition in general works. People play to win, even in inconsequential endeavors, and when money is involved, they DEFINITELY play to win. Playing to appease some sort of arbitrary constraints you have on "proper play" just makes you a loser. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On August 23 2010 00:48 Slow Motion wrote: whitera and huk were supposed to carry the protoss hope. it's very disappointing that they couldn't play to their true potential, and i think the tournament was the lesser for it. it would have been awesome to see some bo5 TvP or ZvP. This exactly, I was getting tired of TvT/ZvT. Needed some Protoss action. Congrats Morrow, certainly well deserved. Thanks for a great tournament. | ||
boesthius
United States11637 Posts
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AskJoshy
United States1625 Posts
I recorded some casts of 15 games from this tournament, I'll link them here in spoilers.  + Show Spoiler [Casts from IEM!] + TLO vs. ClouD entire series: TLO vs. WhiteRa entire series: TLO vs. MaDFroG entire series: IdrA vs. Naniwa entire series: IdrA vs. Strelok entire series: TLO vs. MorroW, one game: IdrA vs. Sarens, one game: Tarson vs. MaDFroG, one game: DIMAGA vs. DeMusliM, one game (banelingasm): | ||
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blacktoss
United States121 Posts
All of Dimaga's games impressed me, and I can give Morrow credit for that win. It was well earned and exciting. But Morrow's TvZ in the finals was not fun to watch. For that, I am disappointed. I am also disappointed that instead of sticking to his own style, he just resorted to the most insipid play for 2.5k dollars. I know that is a lot of money, but was it worth it to be a terrible showman and to basically admit "I am a worse player than you Idra, so I am going to abuse the things that make Terran so much more powerful than Zerg." He even admitted that after he won vs. Dimaga. Honestly, take the win. I don't care, I'm not a fan anymore. | ||
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Eldest
Sweden18 Posts
On August 23 2010 01:02 epicfailswede wrote: Why can't we vote for MorroW being the most disappointing for taking a final series over a better player with reaper abuse? Nothing is as disappointing as seeing a stronger player lose because of an opening which MorroW admittedly says is imba, but uses repeatedly to win because he knows he would lose without it. Oh yeah and he denied ZvT scouting in the last game, epic skills, bravo. Morrow for most disappointing option please. ![[image loading]](http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6540/haterst.jpg) Seriously though, I really think there are few people who would do anything differently in MorroWs situation. He found a good strategy, albeit he even himself said it was imbalanced, and why would he abandon it in the biggest SC2 pricepool tournament to date? It's like finding out muta-stacking (not exactly, but please bear with me for the sake of the example) and then not use it because people might find it overpowered. Hate the game, not the player. | ||
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Brad
2754 Posts
On August 23 2010 01:54 boesthius wrote: yeah seriously, these LR thread were fucking amazing. superb quality, amazing banners/picture. good job, man. On August 23 2010 01:54 choboPEon wrote: props to brad for the awesome live threads ESPORTS! But really, thanks. Just trying to do my part. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
Have nothing against Morrow. It was a tournament and he played to win, which meant finding the most effective build and then performing it well. The neverending balance argument will continue (personally, I find TvZ to be fucking ridiculous after watching those games), but the fact is that Morrow capitalized on Idra's mistakes and performed his build well. In the game on Desert Oasis I really wanted to see Idra burrow some banelings on his side of the hedge next to his third, since he knew a bio army would walk across it. Taking that expo instead of the gold (or rather, not taking it and the gold since Morrow took his gold) didn't make much sense and building his ultra cavern there instead of his main or nat was a bit of a mistake. | ||
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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MaleficOR
United States315 Posts
On August 23 2010 00:50 AyJay wrote: Morrow disappointed me in the finals. | ||
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Skeyser
Canada219 Posts
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
White-Ra's drop was a huge surprise. Gg's Idra & Dimaga. | ||
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SnowB
Poland18 Posts
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knyttym
United States5797 Posts
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Latham
9569 Posts
On August 23 2010 02:11 Grettin wrote: Morrow disappointed me in the finals aswell. I seriously thought he could beat Idra without such a one-base build in every game, but since its a tournament and winning is the goal, you gotta do what you have to do to win. White-Ra's drop was a huge surprise. Gg's Idra & Dimaga. I'm not disappointed in MorroW at all. It's EXACTLY what I expected of him. He also didn't lose any of my respect, because he never had any of it from the start. Seriously the finals were super bad, and not just because of MorroW. It's that Dimaga and Tarson put on such a show in those 2 epic game 4's that those games completely out shined every other RO-X. They are the true winners here. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
and Brad did epic jobs with the live threads(loved all those lol troll pics he used ^^)Amazing event, looking forward to next time, hopefully with less "OMG imbalance whine(yeah not gonna happen)" and more Protoss that don't disapoint | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
But it wasn't very fun to watch. A friend of mine and me watched the games and "ooh... reapers again. Gonna go getting something to drink". And then those SCVs allins... meh. Yeah sure, with that much money at stake I'd do the same thing  but wasnt fun to watch in my opinion.For me Dimaga was the most likable person in the final four. He seemed way happier than Idra/Morrow even though he "only" got 3rd. And he didnt have this "awkward aura" around him. Big props to him, he now has a new fan | ||
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BattleSheen
United States58 Posts
But seriously, if the next patch nerfs 5-rax reaper in any way, i consider morrow an abuser, although a very talented abuser. | ||
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