• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:11
CEST 06:11
KST 13:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence1Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7
Community News
WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments0SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia7Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon What happened to Singapore/Brazil servers?
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence Pros React To: SoulKey's 5-Peat Challenge BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group C [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! Is there English video for group selection for ASL [ASL20] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 950 users

[Interview] ZenioWerra, Top Korean Zerg player - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
February 24 2010 13:33 GMT
#21
Great interview
A true passion player
I Can Fly...
ReiKo
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Croatia1023 Posts
February 24 2010 13:34 GMT
#22
garimtoss = garimto?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33430 Posts
February 24 2010 13:37 GMT
#23
yeah, that garimtoss =o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
February 24 2010 13:42 GMT
#24
are there any replays of the muta build he was talking about?
This is my truth, tell me yours!
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
February 24 2010 13:42 GMT
#25
maybe hes one of those guys that lets resources stack and then spends it all in one shot. ..
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Aro_X
Profile Joined February 2009
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 13:59:05
February 24 2010 13:43 GMT
#26
i remember zenio.werra from wc3.. he played orc and he wasnt really a top wc3 player.. maybe in the amatures even then he was pretty average. pretty cool he doing so well at sc2

also he mentions check[pooh] who is pretty much a legend in wc3 who's still active atm (along with Moon probably the longest active korean player in the wc3 scene)

some background on some of the wc3 players for those interested

EDIT- didnt see the check interview didnt know he stopped wc3.. he's qualified for a chinese tournament, Stars war.. if he backs out WeMadeFOX.Lyn would be next in line
You're slow, even when falling.
Protocon
Profile Joined February 2010
United States255 Posts
February 24 2010 13:47 GMT
#27
Nice interview, I hope he succeeds in going pro.
asdf
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 16:37:36
February 24 2010 13:54 GMT
#28
edit: nevermind ._______.
wwww
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
February 24 2010 13:58 GMT
#29
Nice that sound issues were mentioned, awesome
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 24 2010 13:58 GMT
#30
This also makes me think Terrans definitely will want to choose targets "manually" for Siege Tanks instead of "Siege mode" and "Tank mode" being the only orders for Siege Tanks
wwww
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 14:10:53
February 24 2010 14:06 GMT
#31
On February 24 2010 22:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 22:07 FortuneSyn wrote:
5 hatch roach with queens on 2 base? :O Is that seriously possible

I can't imagine this is possible :p

He can't mean 5 hatches all with queens constantly using spawn larvae, the amount of larvae coming out of 5 hatchs with queens seems to outpace income from two saturated bases easily.


It's easy to calculate the amount of resources you get, 8 drones gather around 300 minerals according to the income tool in the replay, 16 gathers around 600, etcetc. the cap of mining per base is close to 8x3 drones, after this each drone mine 50% less since it has to wait, and it's useless to spend minerals on 8 addiotnal drones that will only give the amount of minerals of 4 normal drones. so yea close to 2k with 2 over saturated hatcheys.

No way you can support 5 hatch with queen on that.


There is allot more that doesn't make sense in this interview.

Just take his view on the protoss vs Zerg. Voidrays with a few phoenix and archons can easily destroy a pure muta/ling force, it's not even funny how badly zerg/muta die to this combo.

The most funny shit is that he actually win games by making mass roaches, zealots and immortals are the main units for the Protoss ground arny right now and totally counters this. Oh yea I forgott, the guy some how magically supports 5 hatcherys WITH queens from 1 expansion and one main thats how he can win with mass roaches haha.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 14:12:17
February 24 2010 14:10 GMT
#32
he's right about the mutas

give them hydra/roach/ling (i haven't tried corruptors yet) support and it becomes an incredibly hard to stop force
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
February 24 2010 14:12 GMT
#33
On February 24 2010 23:06 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 22:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On February 24 2010 22:07 FortuneSyn wrote:
5 hatch roach with queens on 2 base? :O Is that seriously possible

I can't imagine this is possible :p

He can't mean 5 hatches all with queens constantly using spawn larvae, the amount of larvae coming out of 5 hatchs with queens seems to outpace income from two saturated bases easily.


It's easy to calculate the amount of resources you get, 8 drones gather around 300 minerals according to the income tool in the replay, 16 gathers around 600, etcetc. the cap of mining per base is close to 8x3 drones, after this each drone mine 50% less since it has to wait, and it's useless to spend minerals on 8 addiotnal drones that will only give the amount of minerals of 4 normal drones. so yea close to 2k with 2 over saturated hatcheys.

No way you can support 5 hatch with queen on that.


There is allot more that doesn't make sense in this interview.

Just take his view on the protoss vs Zerg. Voidrays with a few phoenix and archons can easily destroy a pure muta/ling force, it's not even funny how badly zerg/muta die to this combo.

The most funny shit is that he actually win games by making mass roaches, zealots and immortals are the main units for the Protoss ground arny right now and totally counters this. Oh yea I forgott, the guy some how magically supports 5 hatcherys WITH queens from 1 expansion and one main thats how he can win with mass roaches haha.

How many hatches with queens can you support with ~20 drones per mineral field?
wwww
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 14:18:17
February 24 2010 14:17 GMT
#34
I think he mean't second expo, not second base cause 5 hatch roaches + queen injecting larvae sounds impossible on just 2 bases.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33430 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-24 14:20:51
February 24 2010 14:19 GMT
#35
Guys, it's a rough outline.

Take what ideas you will from it, it's not like he said "I do this exactly every game with no flexibility whatsoever." This is a guy who's #1 and gets his losses when he decides to play Terran for fun.

and yeah he probably means 2nd expansion for a total of three bases ;o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 24 2010 14:24 GMT
#36
Awesome interview! I'm really interested to hear the Korean's take on SC2.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
February 24 2010 14:27 GMT
#37
On February 24 2010 22:01 Carnac wrote:
smart kid


Well, I don't know how smart it is to actually dump your gf and get in trouble with your parents to put all your chances on gaming. Sounds a bit risky to me.
Pretty sure he will regret this.
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
February 24 2010 14:36 GMT
#38
On February 24 2010 23:27 Asta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 22:01 Carnac wrote:
smart kid


Well, I don't know how smart it is to actually dump your gf and get in trouble with your parents to put all your chances on gaming. Sounds a bit risky to me.
Pretty sure he will regret this.

100% agreed, lol. Dumping everything to go pro at a game when you just know thousands of others are going to try to do seems so stupid. I agree with follow your dreams and aim high etc. But as long as you consider the possibility you're not talented enough to pull it off and weigh up the pros/cons of failure -_-;;
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 24 2010 14:41 GMT
#39
On February 24 2010 23:12 beetlelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 23:06 Integra wrote:
On February 24 2010 22:26 Hot_Bid wrote:
On February 24 2010 22:07 FortuneSyn wrote:
5 hatch roach with queens on 2 base? :O Is that seriously possible

I can't imagine this is possible :p

He can't mean 5 hatches all with queens constantly using spawn larvae, the amount of larvae coming out of 5 hatchs with queens seems to outpace income from two saturated bases easily.


It's easy to calculate the amount of resources you get, 8 drones gather around 300 minerals according to the income tool in the replay, 16 gathers around 600, etcetc. the cap of mining per base is close to 8x3 drones, after this each drone mine 50% less since it has to wait, and it's useless to spend minerals on 8 addiotnal drones that will only give the amount of minerals of 4 normal drones. so yea close to 2k with 2 over saturated hatcheys.

No way you can support 5 hatch with queen on that.


There is allot more that doesn't make sense in this interview.

Just take his view on the protoss vs Zerg. Voidrays with a few phoenix and archons can easily destroy a pure muta/ling force, it's not even funny how badly zerg/muta die to this combo.

The most funny shit is that he actually win games by making mass roaches, zealots and immortals are the main units for the Protoss ground arny right now and totally counters this. Oh yea I forgott, the guy some how magically supports 5 hatcherys WITH queens from 1 expansion and one main thats how he can win with mass roaches haha.

How many hatches with queens can you support with ~20 drones per mineral field?

Hard to tell since I only played ladders.

With 1 base and 1 expansion I guess I could support 3 hatch and 2 queens, Don't quote me on that though, it's just an approximation, it could very well only be 2 hatch with 2 queens or a 3 hatch 1queen variation.
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
February 24 2010 14:48 GMT
#40
On February 24 2010 23:36 Ftrunkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2010 23:27 Asta wrote:
On February 24 2010 22:01 Carnac wrote:
smart kid


Well, I don't know how smart it is to actually dump your gf and get in trouble with your parents to put all your chances on gaming. Sounds a bit risky to me.
Pretty sure he will regret this.

100% agreed, lol. Dumping everything to go pro at a game when you just know thousands of others are going to try to do seems so stupid. I agree with follow your dreams and aim high etc. But as long as you consider the possibility you're not talented enough to pull it off and weigh up the pros/cons of failure -_-;;

People who succeed in such endeavors rarely consider their chances. Otherwise they wouldn't exist. It's not just the destination that people experience it's the way there.
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 137
Nina 128
ProTech66
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 2034
JulyZerg 467
Leta 439
Noble 80
sSak 52
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
NaDa 18
SilentControl 8
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever744
League of Legends
JimRising 674
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K670
semphis_33
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox639
Mew2King17
Other Games
shahzam787
WinterStarcraft488
C9.Mang0268
Maynarde122
ViBE49
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH250
• Sammyuel 13
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity3
• iopq 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1112
• Lourlo892
Other Games
• Scarra1127
• Shiphtur237
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
5h 49m
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Wardi Open
6h 49m
OSC
19h 49m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 5h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 5h
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
PiGosaur Monday
1d 19h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maru vs Reynor
Cure vs TriGGeR
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Zoun vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Online Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.