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JimmiC
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On February 21 2017 00:56 Scarecrow wrote: Sac's hoping for an AD injury and subsequent pelican lottery pick (which they'll blow anyway). I think most teams that are already high seeds are very wary of trading for boogie when he's going to be suspended for every tech in the playoffs, has never had a winning season, chews through coaches and can do unknowable locker room damage. It's pretty damning that the Pelicans were rumored to be considering a similar deal for Jahlil Okafor... As for Boston they're already contending whilst having the Nets tank for them. The only way they can really fuck that up is by taking a risk on someone like Boogie. The Celtics (Ainge) is pretty dumb for not picking Boogie up. The guy isnt "toxic" and his teammates dont have a bad word to say about him. The Celtics are a poor defensive rebounding team. They cant just sit on assets forever and wait for Lebron to get old. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
Also, I still remember when we used to talk about Tyreke Evans on the Kings on here 8D | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17708 Posts
 http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18727486/kings-gm-vlade-divac-says-received-better-demarcus-cousins-trade-offer-2-days-ago he could've had a better deal 2 days ago? huh? i guess he wants to make it 100% clear this was ownership's deal and not his. | ||
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JimmiC
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Sone Celts fans were irate Ainge didnt do the deal for Ibaka because he didnt want to throw in Rozier rofl. NBA trade deadline is always full of craziness. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17708 Posts
On February 21 2017 10:08 Ace wrote: Sone Celts fans were irate Ainge didnt do the deal for Ibaka because he didnt want to throw in Rozier rofl. NBA trade deadline is always full of craziness. The Ross contract is bad. Ibaka was there for the taking. I'm kinds surprised the Raptors managed to unload him. I guess the Magic really wanted that 1st rounder. Ross was good for a couple of months in the Lowry+Bench lineup. Once teams learned how to deal with the early in the shot clock high screen there was not enough skill and talent in that 5 man team to adjust and that unit just stopped producing. Funny it started happening right after another poster rattled off all these "great stats" about Ross. Right after that Lowry+Bench stalled and never recovered as teams started executing a good scheme against it. They basically ignored Nogueira until he got within 3 feet of the hoop. Ross and every one floundered except Lowry. | ||
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JimmiC
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17708 Posts
On February 21 2017 10:56 JimmiC wrote: Most of the sporting world disagree's with you take on T. Ross and his contract. http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbenjamin/2017/02/14/terrence-ross-could-benefit-most-from-the-serge-ibaka-trade/#30cc2e48659f + Show Spoiler + Ross, on the other hand, is the more interesting player in the deal. A former first-round pick out of Washington, the 26-year-old is perhaps best known for winning the 2013 Slam Dunk Contest in his rookie year. As a player under coach Dwane Casey the past couple of years, he has settled into a role as a bench shooter. Ross is averaging 10.4 points over 22.4 minutes per game this year and is shooting 37.5% from three-point range. That's not at all bad considering his $10 million salary, which is an arguable bargain for a player of his type in a league with a rising salary cap. http://hoopshabit.com/2017/02/14/nba-trade-grades-toronto-raptors-snag-serge-ibaka/2/ + Show Spoiler + Terrence Ross is a useful bench piece who will help provide some scoring to a team that needs it as the NBA’s 29th-ranked offense. He’s still only 26, he’s a high-flying, entertaining dunker and perhaps on a worse team he’ll get more chances to shine. News now coming out the Thomas didn't want cousins to come to Boston. Wasn't a fan when he was in Sac. no, people who don't watch the games who like to play with #s think Ross can be something. Most of the US based sports media does not watch the Raptors games. Ross was almost useless once the Lowry+Bench scheme was cracked by the opposition. The article quoted sounds like a bunch of guys who don't actually watch Ross play. Here is some commentary from some guys who actually , you know, watch the actual games Ross plays in. "We’re talking about Terrence Ross here – the Andrea Bargnani of the Masai Ujiri era." http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/12/02/terrence-ross-has-not-scored-31-points-since-signing-his-31-million-contract/ Ross is only interesting to boxscore watchers. He is a below average small forward as a starter and a streaky scorer. He is a slightly above average bench player. Norm Powell instantly moved higher up on the depth chart after he played about 300 minutes with the Raptors. For $10 million a year... that is not a good contract. When one of these "experts" outlines detail-for-detail the disintegration of the Lowry+Bench lineup and why and how it happened i'll listen to what they have to say. If they're going to play with boxscore #s i can do that myself just by heading to basketball reference dot com. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On February 21 2017 07:34 Ace wrote: The guy isnt "toxic" and his teammates dont have a bad word to say about him. On February 21 2017 10:56 JimmiC wrote: News now coming out the Thomas didn't want cousins to come to Boston. Wasn't a fan when he was in Sac. You were saying? It's pretty clear he's not a positive guy to have in the locker room, or for coach-team dynamics. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Outside of George Karl or the Kings brass where are the people calling Boogie a bad teammate or toxic? | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On February 21 2017 11:56 Ace wrote: News from where? Outside of George Karl or the Kings brass where are the people calling Boogie a bad teammate or toxic? Maybe we have different ideas of what toxic is? He's the worst kind of leader a team could have. He blames officials constantly. Abuses coaches. Gets techs. If I had a teammate who routinely throws tantrums resulting in losses/suspensions I'd be frustrated too. I don't see any players coming out in support of Boogie and he has the sort of temperament where I wouldn't want to criticize him publicly then have to play with him either. Obviously neither of us are in that locker room, but I highly doubt he's been a positive influence over the years. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On February 21 2017 07:34 Ace wrote: his teammates dont have a bad word to say about him. Come to think of it, teammates will rarely call each other out at all, and only for play/effort (areas where Boogie doesn't have issues). Personal attacks/character criticism between players is VERY rare, and not because everyone loves playing with each other, but because they tend to keep that shit private/unspoken. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Which again leads me to ask - who is calling him toxic or a bad teammate . I think we're trying to fill in the story ourselves instead of just taking what it is at face value. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Also why are you using JimmyJ smileys? Don't tell me there are 3 of you. | ||
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