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On January 28 2014 02:21 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 18:54 Sub40APM wrote:
sometimes i wish the 3d engine was disabled. its impossible not to rage when you watch 10 of your corners do nothing and then lose the cup final to someone when they go 2-2 on corners. disgusting. You can play with the 2D match engine. Though the scenario you described isn't really that unrealistic. Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 17:39 ZeroChrome wrote:Finished my first season in FM14 just now + Show Spoiler +I was in 3rd place and tied on points with Oberneuland going into the 28th matchday and then we just collapsed against 2 shit teams and they clinched the playoff spot in the 2nd last game  Finished with the best defensive record though, 25 conceded in 30 games, and considering the financial disparity 3rd is pretty good. Promotion should be no problem next season. + Show Spoiler + You play in the Oberliga? Now that is hipster.
Yeah, the lowest tier I'd managed in before was the 3rd tier in Spain so I wanted to see what was even lower than that haha. Not gonna go for one of those English 11th tier games though.
This transfer window is being a bitch to me so far. I signed 1 good DM, and then went for an awesome CM. His demands were €95 per week and my remaining budget was €126 per week. I was like fuck it, offered him €110 per week and he agrees. Next week he signs for OSC Bremerhaven (same division as me and currently rock bottom with 0 points) for €290 per week ffs. Same thing happened 4 times during the window so far, and now my good keeper is getting poached from me for €190 per week I did manage to sign a striker with 10 finishing+ 11 heading which is ridiculous for a 5th tier player imo. He's fucking ruthless in front of goal haha.
The scouting system seems somewhat broken at this level, perhaps because these leagues aren't standard in the game? Every single player I scout gets a 5 star ability rating from my staff when in reality 99.9% of the time they aren't even half as good as my backups. Makes it pretty difficult to find good players when there are more than 1,500 in my database all with the same rating. I basically have to individually compare any potential signing with a player currently in my squad, and there are way too many players to check every one. I thought that the star rating was relative to the quality of players in your squad but it seems like it's based on the reputation of my club.
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Yeah the lowest I've ever done was the third tier in Germany, but I used the editor to activate the Regionalliga so that I could have access to my B team when I play as a team in that nation. I think that's the lowest I could ever go, I prefer to stick with professional teams 
I think the star rating is based mainly on your squad, in your case I think the ratings are the way that they are because your coaches probably aren't very good, though it could be a glitch as you said.
I'd try to get some players on loan, since it seems you don't really have the budget to sign a lot of players. Loans are the best way to get out of the lower leagues in FM imo.
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On January 28 2014 08:25 Ferrose wrote:Yeah the lowest I've ever done was the third tier in Germany, but I used the editor to activate the Regionalliga so that I could have access to my B team when I play as a team in that nation. I think that's the lowest I could ever go, I prefer to stick with professional teams I think the star rating is based mainly on your squad, in your case I think the ratings are the way that they are because your coaches probably aren't very good, though it could be a glitch as you said. I'd try to get some players on loan, since it seems you don't really have the budget to sign a lot of players. Loans are the best way to get out of the lower leagues in FM imo.
The chairman rejected my proposal to get a parent club :/ I'll try asking again once we're in the Regionalliga because with an annual budget of €30k we will probably get stomped.
Despite my bitching I am top of the league and undefeated 10 games into the season anyways.
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The scouting system is relative to your team, as you get better players, scouts will be tougher with their ratings.
Currently in my 6th season as La Coruna, going for a three-peat in La Liga, Xavi/Iniesta retiring made Barca beatable. I have a team of awesome regens and a new owner who didn't really change the finances. I keep asking for a new stadium every few months but the board always says they don't see the fanbase increasing despite the team having worldwide reputation now. I spent most of my profits upgrading the facilities. Selling a couple of world class players (Stanciu) netted me 100m+. I haven't gotten past semifinals of CL yet but did win Europa league in my 3rd year. Will post some ss when I can.
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i promoted to Premier League with Milwall in my second season. Some rich guy bought club and gave me 19m budget lol.
Now im playing the gayest football possible in PL. 5 defenders, 1 anchorman, 1 regista, 2 wingers whose dribbing is good and a target man with 2.02m height lolol. It's really fun.
Play Wider
Pump ball into box
Pass into space
Hit Early crosses
Parking my Bus ezpz.
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if you get a rich enough team the game starts to be broken/boring. My schalke 04 has now won three Champions Leagues back to back and every year another 5 star youth is pumped out of my system while my wage budget is enough to keep anyone I want. The interesting thing is how unsubtle the game imitates you, the German league automatically has become the best league and everyone plays the same 4-3-3 I play except for Dortumund.
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Well, that's why I prefer getting teams from poor leagues or very low ones. Polish league or 5th English league.
And so I bought FM2014, so far I find the new tactic system quite interesting - but maybe lacking a bit of depth of the old one? Guess I need to get used to it. So far only played 4 games as Wrexham, so a lot ahead of me.
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On February 02 2014 08:00 Sub40APM wrote:
if you get a rich enough team the game starts to be broken/boring. My schalke 04 has now won three Champions Leagues back to back and every year another 5 star youth is pumped out of my system while my wage budget is enough to keep anyone I want. The interesting thing is how unsubtle the game imitates you, the German league automatically has become the best league and everyone plays the same 4-3-3 I play except for Dortumund.
Try something different. Instead of your 4-3-3, try a new tactic, like a 3-5-2 or something. Sell your best players and try to make a new squad. Try the youth academy challenge. Hell, leave Schalke and try to make another club into a powerhouse (and watch as the AI crashes and burns your carefully crafted squad ;__;)
I always try to freshen things up, because I get bored of using the same players and tactics season after season.
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The January transfer update is now out (276mb). Now you can start a new save in the summer of 2013, with squads updated to include all of the players that they signed in January. I prefer to play without it because I feel that it kinda destroys the realism of the game.
+ Show Spoiler [Patch Notes] +UPDATE 14.3.0
DATABASE
- Updated to January 2014
PERFORMANCE
- Fixed rare crash related to city inhabitants in edited save
- Fixed rare crash when holidaying to next fixture
- Fixed rare transfer deadline day crash
- Fixed crash related to Turkish player names
- Fixed rare crash when histories have been corrupted
- Fixed rare crash when recalling players from loan
COMPETITIONS
- Fixed State leagues not being scheduled when adding Brazilian leagues
- Fixed past Winners screen for the Polish Ekstraklasa using positions from the Regular Season and not the positions from after the Split
- Bulgarian and Romanian Players no longer need a Work Permit for British Clubs from January 2014
- Fixed user not given opportunity to Postpone Premier Division match due to International Callups
- Improved scheduling of domestic fixtures before/after European matches
- Fixed user not being asked to set length of End of Season Break after last match of season
- Fixed MLS teams being unable to register players for Club World Championship
- Improved the selection of players in the MLS Draft pool
- CFA League Schedule now correctly matching other French Leagues
- Improved A-League AI teams' signing of Marquee players
TRANSFERS & CONTRACTS
- Relaxed some German transfer preferences to allow users to sign more players from outside of Germany
- Prevented AI managers from leaving jobs before playoff finals
- Increased amount of international management sackings
- Prevented the AI from signing a player on loan when the player has already played for two teams in the current season
- Prevented players loans getting extended automatically when being loaned to South American sides
- Tweaks to transfers made by the AI for users players
- Prevented recently relegated side from the lowest playable league from entering a loop of hiring and firing managers on a daily basis
INTERACTION
- Fixed backroom advice not appearing for some clients online
- Fixed Youth Setup Category not upgrading despite request being accepted
- Fixed player wanting to discuss failure to qualify for Champions Cup despite having qualified
- Fixed irrational response to player being congratulated on first international cap
- Fixed a few issues of strange/contradictory responses in team meetings
MEDIA & NEWS
- Fixed transfer records being incorrectly broken with lower fee when using South Korean Won
- Fixed manager to go odds displaying already sacked manager
- Fixed backroom advice link allowing user to repeat private chat
- Fixed remove Offer from Backroom Advice not functioning correctly
- Fixed Champions League top goalscorer record broken shows previous record as -1
- Fixed code displayed in news item when international team changes national captain without a current manager
- Fixed incorrect calculation for number of players signed in transfer window press conference question
- Fixed sextuple news item not generating
- Fixed press conference question considering league to be a close run contest incorrectly
- Fixed press Conference question incorrectly referring to non-striker as striker
- Fixed missing headline on AWOL news item
- Fixed duplicated information in player debut news
- Fixed league specific question being asked in post-match press conference
USER INTERFACE
- Fixed user's ability to select different player roles on the Player Coach Report screen
- Prevented Nations duplicating when user changes Match Detail on Detail Level screen
- Fixed sorting of club scouting assignments
- Fixed filters resetting on the Team Selection Overview screen
- Fixed Opposition Instructions clearing when user uses the Set Piece Wizard in Match
- Fixed Match widgets staying faded out after highlight has played out
- Fixed Home and Away Team stats switching in Match Overview
- Fixed Assistant Manager Advice automatically updating in Match Overview
- Fixed Important Attributes panel in Player Tactics not updating
- Fixed Scout Report Training Development & Happiness displaying blank bars for player out on loan
- Fixed Cup tied players not appearing on Fixture Details panel
FMC SPECIFIC
- News Item priority improvements to Manager News Website
- Assistant Training will correctly update the training pie chart
- Stopped players learning new positions when subbed into that position for very short periods of time
- Improved player training when user changes tactics frequently
MISC
- Fixed double prize money payout in Norway
- Fixed rounding issue in Sponsorship news item
- Fixed issue with illogical stadium completion date
- Fixed issue with £0 Sponsorship
- Improved newgen creation in View-only leagues
- Fixed issue where proposed plans to improve a stadium had fallen through and weren't explained to the user
- Fixed issue where a board only increased a transfer budget from -£2k to £0
- Adjusted the creation of African and Albainian newgens created in Italy
PRE-GAME EDITOR
- Fixed a number of unique crashes when verifying files in Advanced Rules
- Restored a number of verification warnings that were previously not generating
- Fixed an issue where fixture rules were removed when adding lower divisions to existing structures and converting to Advanced Riles
- Fixed an issue where certain leagues' default rules appeared with no dates or promotion/relegation information
- Improved the functionality of average points tables in custom nation rules
- Fixed a rare issue where a player would be given a positional rating of 20 and it would not extract into the game properly
IN-GAME EDITOR
- Fixed an issue where a player's unhappiness was removed, only for it to return the next day
- Enabled the editing of nations
MATCH ENGINE v1454
- Increased dribbling speed at higher end
- Improved pass and shot accuracy slightly at higher end
- Improved goalkeeper save AI
- Fixed keeper trying to pick up ball at feet but not being able to hold it
- Fixed some instances of unrealistically dreadful poor touch
- Fixed some full backs going forward too quickly off the ball
- Increased likelihood of certain attacking roles dropping deeper to look for ball
- Improved destination height of headed clearances
- Fixed up "Mark six yard area" at corners to mean zonal marking of the edge of the six yard box
- Fixed headed clearance trajectory bug
- Slight reduction in overhit passes
- Fixed potential own goal bug when player tries to stand still with ball near own goal line
- Prevented midfield players going too deep when defending own area
- Increased speed defenders will push up out of box when ball won back or cleared in deep areas
- Reduced instances of defenders turning back on ball and retreating too quickly when team is generally well positioned defensively
- Fixed error causing defenders to mark opponents and drop too deep into own area
- Tweaked pace and target point of some short passes to feet when receiving player is under pressure
- Slightly encouraged some more passes in behind opposition d-line
- Reduced some further instances of overly long first touches
- Reduced premature pot shots from distance when placed to take ball closer to opposition goal
- Encouraged taking on of opponents by players likely to run with ball more
- Some small dribbling AI tweaks
- Encouraged ball forward to target man a bit more
- Tweaked pass AI slightly
- Tweaked cross AI slightly
- Increased fouls slightly at lower levels
- Reduced mentality choice slightly for low directness AI teams
- Increased use of direct play strategy for smaller teams
- Potential fix for odd throw ins
- Fixed an issue when the subbed player doesn't drop the ball
- Tweaked pass choice AI
- Tweaked run with ball AI
- Tweaked when to cross AI
- Tweaked when to shoot long AI
- Tweaked shot choice AI for top players
- Tweaked header accuracy slightly
- Tweaked when to clear ball AI
- Fixed error causing many corners to go too close to goal line
- Tweaked off ball movement around ball player
- Fixes and tweaks to passing AI
- Fixed some issues causing poor dribbling and first touch decisions
- Some tweaks re when to shoot or not
- Increased urgency of off ball movement in some situations
- Fixed offsides being called after player has moved back onside before pass
- Fixed bug where dive by attacker could result in penalty regardless of where it occurred
- Improved keeper reactions in some situations
- Made keepers sweep up balls more aggressively when needed
- Improved keeper positioning when narrowing angle
- Fixed a pass being reported as 550 yards in distance
- Fixed unrealistic examples of keepers holding shots
- Fixed keeper making unnecessary save attempt when already letting ball run out
- Fixed keepers making buggy attempts to save ball when they have it under control already
- Improved goalkeeper distribution
- Fixed buggy offsides being given when player fouled
- Fixed some instances of players continuing with pointless attempts to intercept balls that are destined for opponent
- Made players quicker to move to slow moving ball when under pressure
- Fixed some instances of buggy poor first touches
- Less risky passes around own danger area
- Some minor general passing AI tweaks
- Tweaked long shot AI slightly
- Reduced instances of silly passes when player in goalscoring opportunity
- Made players less gung ho about drifting offside
- Fixed buggy kick offs where the 2 players get in each other’s' way
- Fixed some keeper clearances being given insufficient elevation
- Fix for some crosses not being attempted
- Reduction in dangerous and long back passes
- Reduced DFK conversion slightly
- Further fixes for keeper handling and judgement of ball issues
- Removed illogical zonal marking on free kicks around corner of penalty area
- Reduced unnaturally looped kicks from ground
- More minor tweaks to on ball decision making AI
- Fixed rare occurrence of player "teleporting" randomly on ball
- Reduced unrealistic instances of long shots
- Fixed bug causing some shot velocities to be reduced
- Fine-tuned shot and pass accuracy
- Fine-tuned player ratings
- Fixed underhit long kicks
- Fix occasional penalty awards when offence nowhere near area
- Fixed rare occurrence of match not kicking off after goal
http://www.sigames.com/news/14337/Football Manager v143 Transfer Update out now
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damn, new ME updates, have to retune all my tactics again.
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Hi guys, I had a quick question for you all as I've been eyeing FM13 and 14 for a while and wondering whether it's a game for me. At the current 17$ price point on steam that question has been renewed.
I love management games and love football (yes stupid fellow americans... it IS football, not that sport that should be called "handegg"), but I'm wondering just how much of the management and player value/progression is mirrored off of real world production. My ideal football sim would be managing and discovering worth in made-up players in a league that wasn't necessarily based in reality. As I'm on the other side of the pond, I don't have access to much league play and am not really that interested in following it. How are the management, research, scouting, character progression aspects of the game handled? I remember vaguely reading people saying on some forum (not here) "go buy such and such a player for value in lower leagues" and that level of meta involvement doesn't appeal to me.
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There are thread here and there about 'talents that are cheap to buy from from lower league clubs", but that's only an option for first few months or years. If you don't follow such threads and just play, you can create a scout network to search for players you need (talented youngster, solid addition to first team and so on): depending on your club, you can search only your own country, the region or the whole continent. And of course you can always try to persuade to the board that building better training grounds and youth academy is the way to go and hope that one day you'll have your own Messi 
So, buy it. 17$ is quite good price I would say. FM 2014 is a bit different in terms of tactics, but it's actually a bit more... human friendly? No more sliders to tell your players how wide they have to play etc.
And of course I recommend to NOT pick top teams. Too easy and boring. Personally lower leagues is the way to go and creating something from nothing, including hunting for young talents and creating a strong academy.
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Football Manager 2014 is on sale on steam for 75% off.
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Kronen, they are all pretty good but obvs not realistic. This game gets really fun when you are in 2030 and your entire team is made up of generated characters. You actually have to use the in-game resources to work out who is the best for you. It's pretty fun I would say. You have to bear in mind that there are hidden stats in football manager so you have to pay attention to information you might not consider to be important to build a picture of someone's mental fortitude and desire to improve.
I have a young guy who started off as a prospect named Martin Spooner, he had 3.5 stars projected ability and 1 star current (bearing in mind the stars system is relative and my team is basically a team of superstars; 4 being the rating of like 3 players in the world lol); brought him in from Man City's youth system which has been rich in talent (I am Real Madrid with a stupid, stupid amount of money but our youth system still sucks for some reason). I allowed him on the field very occasionally and I noticed that the he had done well for himself and he got a couple of goals. Despite the fact that they seemed basically lucky goals and my players played him in, I decided to give him a couple of more shots; and put him with a tutor. In the next season, I decided to loan him out to get some experience. Followed him with a scout who said that he was impressed with various attributes he displayed. Bear in mind that I was doing this with another 5-10 guys at any one season (too much money lol). The next season, I put him on for a few games and my assistant was always saying that he was impressive. He actually scored like 3 hat tricks against really bad, low teams (low cup games, friendlies).
So he happened to squeeze into the England squad because of some key injuries to the team and then the first game he played for England he scored a hat trick. I was like 'o.O' and then the news article said 'King Martin!'. Turns out that this kid apparently has some awesome stones; despite the average stats he clearly had mental fortitude so I played him a bit more in my team as my 5th ranked striker. He carried on producing the goods every time he was subbed in and he also scored for England in some friendlies. The next season his stats continued to improve drastically and he basically went from a guy I purchased for like 2 million to being someone whose raw value is 20.5 million at age 22; meaning obviously that I could probably sell him for close to 60-80 million. He is so good that I have loaned out my 80 million pound striker dario medjimorec for 3 seasons in a row because I simply didn't need him lol.
It's been really fun following King Martin's rise in fame and ability; I have other footballers who have failed to impress and others who are following the same path as Martin...it's a real attractive feature of Football Manager that they have hidden stats and if you pay attention you can sometimes spot where someone has some real intangible qualities that mean they can become the best.
Also, even though as other people have said the competition is a bit less than you might hope; I have too much attachment to my manager (who went through some tough, tough times and some close scrapes) and the game is still fun because the world number 1 player point blank refuses to sign for me as do a lot of the other top world players. So I still have plenty of competition.
Also, I appreciate how people like the whole challenge of going with one club up to the top but I find it jarring and weird to have morecambe town winning the treble. So I like to float upwards in clubs and just generally experience new settings. The journey of my manager, Ugo Lusack, Ivory Coast ex-international DM goes:
Evian TG - fired after relegation
SC Herenveen - won dutch cup, took them to 4th, quit for:
FC Twente - wonder eredivisie, left club at end of season (was hoping I would interest other clubs but no T_T)
18 months of unemployment, considered quitting
Leeds - got the chance halfway through season, previous manager sacked, in relegation zone (squeezed into playoffs, won promotion, then 10th in the prem the next season)
Sunderland - won the league second season with them, but quit due to no money being available to restock aging squad
Leverkusen - established something of a legacy with the club and set a nice groundwork. Stayed for 3 seasons and won the league once and got to the final of the CL, won the German Cup too. Offered the big job at RM.
RM - was not going to take the job because I very much enjoyed Leverkusen; but Bayer were offering me 20 million a year to work with; Real Madrid offered me a budget of 230 million o.O. So I have been at Real Madrid for something like 6 seasons. Probably going to stay at Real Madrid until they fire me LOL
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Paul Pogba playing FM14.
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So do Cabaye and Griezmann:
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wonder how players feel when they look at their own profiles and their stats are shit
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On June 24 2014 13:48 Ferrose wrote:So do Cabaye and Griezmann:
why are they playing economy class?
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Doing the San Marino Challenge, now in Serie B after my second season but I'm under a lot of financial duress. Urgh.
National team is still doing shit though, but at least I managed to salvage a 1-1 draw against Israel in the Euro qualifiers.
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After finally winning the Bundesliga with Leverkusen in 2016, I finished fourth in 2017, but I got to the final of the Champions League, taking down Man United, Liverpool, and Bayern, only to lose on penalties to Spurs
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