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divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
September 21 2012 13:08 GMT
#21
Unfortunate that you're paying for a membership on top of contributing something to win the contest. Kind of like those department stores or online deals where you're buying stuff to be entered into something, where it doesn't completely diminish their margin and people aren't really aware of that.

Smegaman also brings up a valid point, though I imagine it's not hard to circumvent.
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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
September 21 2012 20:12 GMT
#22
I think this contest will hurt SPG more than it helps. Which is unfortunate, from what I can gather the service you offer looks decent. However, there will probably be few people who pay the prize just to enter the raffle and for the others, this contest will just leave a bad taste.
tertos
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania394 Posts
September 21 2012 21:17 GMT
#23
On September 21 2012 21:59 CCFxSmegaman wrote:
Requiring a paid subscription to your website in order to be eligible to enter the sweepstakes is directly in conflict with the Federal Trade Commission's gambling laws. Either enable a free entry method, or risk running an illegal operation.

Edit: "The Promotion will be legal if one of the three elements is eliminated. Therefore, a Promotion without required Consideration, but with a Prize and Chance, is legal, and is referred to as a "Game of Chance" or a "Sweepstakes." Similarly, a Promotion without Chance but with a Prize and Consideration is legal, and is referred to as a "Game of Skill" or a "Contest." For Sweepstakes, Entrants must be able to enter without charge, and winners must be selected by Chance from the qualifying entries (those entries which have met the requirements of the Sweepstakes rules). With Contests, Contestants must perform some type of skilled act, the qualifying entries must be judged and scored by objective measurable criteria, and the Contestant with the highest score among the entries wins the Prize."


Nice try but,
They are actually charging money for membership, in exchange you get access to 6pool services, whatever those services are.
They are offering contest entries for free to members, where "Contestants must perform some type of skilled act" thus making it completely legit.
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
September 21 2012 22:52 GMT
#24
On September 22 2012 06:17 tertos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 21:59 CCFxSmegaman wrote:
Requiring a paid subscription to your website in order to be eligible to enter the sweepstakes is directly in conflict with the Federal Trade Commission's gambling laws. Either enable a free entry method, or risk running an illegal operation.

Edit: "The Promotion will be legal if one of the three elements is eliminated. Therefore, a Promotion without required Consideration, but with a Prize and Chance, is legal, and is referred to as a "Game of Chance" or a "Sweepstakes." Similarly, a Promotion without Chance but with a Prize and Consideration is legal, and is referred to as a "Game of Skill" or a "Contest." For Sweepstakes, Entrants must be able to enter without charge, and winners must be selected by Chance from the qualifying entries (those entries which have met the requirements of the Sweepstakes rules). With Contests, Contestants must perform some type of skilled act, the qualifying entries must be judged and scored by objective measurable criteria, and the Contestant with the highest score among the entries wins the Prize."


Nice try but,
They are actually charging money for membership, in exchange you get access to 6pool services, whatever those services are.
They are offering contest entries for free to members, where "Contestants must perform some type of skilled act" thus making it completely legit.


Word, become a member do something creative and you qualify.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 22 2012 01:14 GMT
#25
Yea, you get quite a bit of content for signing up, so I'd definitely recommend it. Getting a chance to win a trip to an event is really awesome as well!

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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
September 22 2012 06:37 GMT
#26
On September 22 2012 10:14 Xeris wrote:
Yea, you get quite a bit of content for signing up, so I'd definitely recommend it. Getting a chance to win a trip to an event is really awesome as well!



Well it doesn't look like the forum is on fire from people climbing over each other to get a piece of this prize. I can't see what the site offers that isn't already available for free. We have streams, youtube, daily tournament, forums, podcasts this stuff is kinda already done by other groups and done well... it just seems difficult for them to compete with all the talent currently out there.

The pro list is small and questionable, the forums have double digit posts which doesn't suggest their is a vibrant community there. Is it right they only have 1 pod cast?... not sure I can see them all without signing up... the premium price is on par with a live stream ticket for an MLG or GSL.... so its difficult to say its worth it.

Well enough of my poo poo, Good luck with the site!
FlashDave.999 aka Star
Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
September 22 2012 08:58 GMT
#27
@aka_star. I see what you are saying and while this is a challenge for the people at SPG, I can't help but stress the fact that they need the help of the community to grow. I am a subscriber there and I can tell you that using the forums of SPG is completely free. You havent got any costs to post there.

However, in order to help build this service into an even better platform, we need people that join us and post actively. I know the team well and presently that is the bottleneck. If you have suggestions for the service they offer and what you'd like to see, head over there and let them know.
''The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.''—Ronald Reagan
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
September 22 2012 17:03 GMT
#28
On September 22 2012 17:58 Aelonius wrote:
@aka_star. I see what you are saying and while this is a challenge for the people at SPG, I can't help but stress the fact that they need the help of the community to grow. I am a subscriber there and I can tell you that using the forums of SPG is completely free. You havent got any costs to post there.

However, in order to help build this service into an even better platform, we need people that join us and post actively. I know the team well and presently that is the bottleneck. If you have suggestions for the service they offer and what you'd like to see, head over there and let them know.


Doesn't change the fact that you're competing with an extremely large amount of free content on TL, Youtube, Twitch etc., at a price comparable to a GSL or MLG season ticket. If you want people to pay for your community content, you need to make it as attractive as humanly possible.

Maybe starting out with paid membership is not the best option - maybe they should consider growing the community for free first, and then tacking on a monthly subscription later?
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Mo0Rauder
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada182 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-22 21:14:44
September 22 2012 21:11 GMT
#29
On September 21 2012 18:38 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2012 17:36 ROOTCatZ wrote:
On September 21 2012 12:31 desRow wrote:
I think it's a decent idea to get more subscribers for your site but I don't think it will be a popular contest. People are broken/don't give a fuck anymore about getting better. There's a minority that wants to get good. Should have made it a free contest with giving away subscriptions to top5. If it's free more creative people will be into it.

+ Show Spoiler +

lol. you're actually as dumb as I thought you were.


Okay. Thank you for your constructive criticism. It is very much appreciated. Have a wonderful day!



I don't think they will be able to butter their bread unless they get more subscribers, something desrow will understand of course.
That comment was dripping with sweat, I mean sarcasm

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Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-23 22:58:52
September 23 2012 20:47 GMT
#30
On September 23 2012 02:03 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2012 17:58 Aelonius wrote:
@aka_star. I see what you are saying and while this is a challenge for the people at SPG, I can't help but stress the fact that they need the help of the community to grow. I am a subscriber there and I can tell you that using the forums of SPG is completely free. You havent got any costs to post there.

However, in order to help build this service into an even better platform, we need people that join us and post actively. I know the team well and presently that is the bottleneck. If you have suggestions for the service they offer and what you'd like to see, head over there and let them know.


Doesn't change the fact that you're competing with an extremely large amount of free content on TL, Youtube, Twitch etc., at a price comparable to a GSL or MLG season ticket. If you want people to pay for your community content, you need to make it as attractive as humanly possible.

Maybe starting out with paid membership is not the best option - maybe they should consider growing the community for free first, and then tacking on a monthly subscription later?


While I can not speak for SPG and their development aims, by all means please let me know what you think would be needed to make a premium membership worth it. What do you want to pay, and what do you want to see. I'll get in touch with the team and relay the best idea's.

Sixpoolgaming is always looking for more volunteers and if you're feeling like helping out then let me know.

Edit:

If you've got idea's, suggestions or questions you can shoot me an e-mail on 'Michael@Sixpoolgaming.com'
I will try to answer them as quickly as possible, and I really appreciate feedback for the organisation.
''The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.''—Ronald Reagan
rshswe
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden40 Posts
September 24 2012 21:24 GMT
#31
Im already going to dreamhack :D
Starcraft was created to have a worst race. You always pick the worst one."
Aelonius
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands432 Posts
September 25 2012 06:35 GMT
#32
On September 25 2012 06:24 rshswe wrote:
Im already going to dreamhack :D


So imagine that you get the chance to go to an MLG event! =D
''The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.''—Ronald Reagan
MMOwnageSports
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom300 Posts
September 27 2012 00:33 GMT
#33
wait.. i thought this was $14.99 ONCE.. not fucking $14.99/month or $143.99/YEAR!!

RU CRAZY? O.O if this was mb $5/month and $40/year then you'd get some actual premium subscribers but DUDE $14.99/month is like 3 hours work for most people on here.. 3 hours to get entered into a contest ur prolly not guna win and some cool content.. MEH!
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Sassback
Profile Joined September 2012
United States718 Posts
September 28 2012 05:28 GMT
#34
14.99 a month is too rich for my blood....
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Rainman5419
Profile Joined January 2011
United States92 Posts
September 28 2012 18:25 GMT
#35
On September 21 2012 06:23 aka_star wrote:
You should probably put the pay to enter on the front of the post, I was about to enter but discovering its pay to enter I wont... if I hadn't seen it from another post I might of wasted my time


This please.
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TheLunatic
Profile Joined February 2011
309 Posts
October 01 2012 19:21 GMT
#36
This is tight
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