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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 10 2016 07:59 GMT
#24561
I haven't leagued in ages. Think I went 0-5 in my first pauper league though . Burn is one tough son of a bitch and this was back when Delver had those mother fucking fairies.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 10 2016 11:14 GMT
#24562
playing pauper weekly now cause store holds event every tuesday, it's pretty great format.
at the very least, it freed me of any remaining desire to get into modern (small as that was anyway)

delver ez matchup now, not even a problem. dont get me wrong, everyone still plays it, but they keep getting run over by the robot masterrace.

and with ez MU i mean that it's probably 60-40 but it seems like you can't get much better than that in paups. unless you're like, gobbos/burn and get matched vs teachings or something. that works.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 11:16:53
May 10 2016 11:16 GMT
#24563
Hey son I've beaten goblins as teachings. Issue is more with burn if they manage to get out a bloody curse on you. Almost no way to kill it outside of bouncing -> counter which is just too much.

Pauper is fantastic format. Modern is pretty fun too though. I'd prob try delver if Daze wasn't so expensive on Modo.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 11:22:27
May 10 2016 11:21 GMT
#24564
supposedly daze is pretty easy to replace, haven't seen a lot of people even run it (even if they have it).
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 10 2016 11:25 GMT
#24565
You can replace daze but the deck will never be quite as strong as having it as it allows you to counter stuff while tapped out. It's like trying to replace Gush with another card draw spell. You can do it but it won't be as good. Card is just too good not to run. Guessing it matters more for mirror and Mono B matchup. Even though Mono B is pretty rough for delver as is.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 11:26:22
May 10 2016 11:25 GMT
#24566
Wow Daze's are worth $5 in paper? I probably have like 20... Ah I see the Nemesis version is more like $3.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 10 2016 11:31 GMT
#24567
It's $10 online which is what really wrecks me . Sell those bad boys mordek. Get enough cash to throw it all into Hearthstone packs.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 10 2016 11:44 GMT
#24568
On May 10 2016 20:25 Numy wrote:
You can replace daze but the deck will never be quite as strong as having it as it allows you to counter stuff while tapped out. It's like trying to replace Gush with another card draw spell. You can do it but it won't be as good. Card is just too good not to run. Guessing it matters more for mirror and Mono B matchup. Even though Mono B is pretty rough for delver as is.

well i dont play pussy decks but way i hear it, without fairy mirror goes longer which makes daze pretty shit, and as you said it can't salvage mbc anyway so no point there
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 10 2016 12:11 GMT
#24569
On May 10 2016 20:31 Numy wrote:
It's $10 online which is what really wrecks me . Sell those bad boys mordek. Get enough cash to throw it all into Hearthstone packs.

Honestly I may buy a fat pack or two and draft with my brothers for nostalgia next Christmas or something. I have an inkling there's a foil Daze in the binder too...
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 10 2016 13:40 GMT
#24570
What is robot masterrace, affinity?
I wonder what Nahiri does in miracles. She's just another way of digging for cards? Since she makes you discard, she doesn't seel that good, and is using her to exile an artifact/enchantment worth it?

As for manga, my brother stopped buying Gunnm Last Order, so I'll have to check them out, if the author kept it going.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 13:52:20
May 10 2016 13:48 GMT
#24571
She's a clock. She gets you the big spaghetti monster to win the game while getting chaff out of your hand. She can also deal with troublesome enchantments while dodging abrupt decay range. She's weaker than Jace for making sure you don't lose but stronger than him for winning in time which is a big problem for miracles in tournaments.

Remember she starts on 4 loyalty and goes up to 6 with one tick. That means it only takes you 2 turns after playing her to get your big mama on board if she's not dealt with. Just really flexible planeswalker. I think one of the nicer things about her as well is that she doesn't dilute the miracles gameplan too much compared to the legends version of the deck that sacrifices a lot in order to get a real clock out.

Anyway it's just some new tech people trying so it may not be the real deal. Joe tends to be pretty on point with miracles tech though.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 10 2016 14:23 GMT
#24572
So Nahiri in Miracles is her+Emrakul replaces JTMS+whatever you're using as your wincon (like Entreat the Angels), etc.for a generic package, that also includes enchantment/artifact removal in a pinch?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 10 2016 14:30 GMT
#24573
HYYYYYYYPE



I usually always go water but owls are too cute.
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 10 2016 14:33 GMT
#24574
On May 10 2016 23:30 Requizen wrote:
HYYYYYYYPE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn25hijDL7c

I usually always go water but owls are too cute.


Also that seal has some serious Mudkip goofy shit going on.

But I bet their final evolutions are dope as hell.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 10 2016 14:34 GMT
#24575
I don't like any of these starters, I hope they don't evolve into stupid shit.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 10 2016 15:14 GMT
#24576
Going sun because lion looks p cool.

Probably grass cuz flying starter type
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 10 2016 15:40 GMT
#24577
On May 11 2016 00:14 Cixah wrote:
Going sun because lion looks p cool.

Probably grass cuz flying starter type

Nah bruh, Embrace the Heresy.

Right now, think I'm going to agree with you on the starter, just because the owl looks like it's got GBM swag.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 10 2016 16:09 GMT
#24578
On May 11 2016 00:40 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 00:14 Cixah wrote:
Going sun because lion looks p cool.

Probably grass cuz flying starter type

Nah bruh, Embrace the Heresy.

Right now, think I'm going to agree with you on the starter, just because the owl looks like it's got GBM swag.

HERESY *BLAM*

Owl best starter. Owls are cute as hell. Flying type top 3 types. Having a starter with Fly so you don't need a shitty Flybot is dope. Anyone who disagrees is factually incorrect.

Rowlet for president.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-10 16:16:27
May 10 2016 16:12 GMT
#24579
You have an HM Slave because eating a move slot on a an actually useful mon gimps them, not because they can't.

Charizard could learn Fly, but I'd never ever teach Charizard Fly, esp in the early gen games where you couldn't unlearn HMs.

Flying as a type has come a long way though, I think I started liking it in Gen 3 when the games started having Flying moves other than Drill Peck (which only like 3 Pokemon can feasibly learn maingame) that don't suck e.g. Aerial Ace.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 10 2016 16:14 GMT
#24580
Yeah but I like Fly.
It's your boy Guzma!
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