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On May 06 2016 03:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Well what do you know. Seems the higher ups maybe learned their lesson this time and don't want a 4th dead website. All kinds of hilarious.
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On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots. PTSD already?
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On May 06 2016 03:42 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots. PTSD already?
My dreams have been freaking crazy lately man.
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So I'm assuming some of you have had recurring dreams before, yes? I used to have one when I was younger where people had weird color skin and my hair wouldn't stop growing or something. Found out many years later that there was apparently a movie that was very eerily similar to the dream I'd have, and to this date I have still never seen it.
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On May 06 2016 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote: So I'm assuming some of you have had recurring dreams before, yes? I used to have one when I was younger where people had weird color skin and my hair wouldn't stop growing or something. Found out many years later that there was apparently a movie that was very eerily similar to the dream I'd have, and to this date I have still never seen it.
I've had a few. The most impactful one started when I was pretty young and manifests usually as a nightmare. It takes a lot of different forms, but always revolves around an incredible feeling of being overwhelmed trying to understand the perspective of multiple people, even those across the world, all at once. It leaves me feeling very small afterwards.
It's interesting, thinking back, how early my feelings of sonder started.
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Kept having nightmares about random shit that happened in the first X-Men movie. Who would've thought watching a pg-13 movie as a 7 year old would be a bad idea? Funnily enough it only lasted a few days and I just went ahead and watched actual scary movies and shit never really bothered me after.
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When I was young there was a closed panel about a foot of the floor in my room that led to attic space. I used to dream all the time it would open and a goblin would be standing there with glowing eyes. Specifically the one from the fantasy tile set of a computer mahjong game.
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Random thought: what if MOBAs like League of Legends and Dota 2 took a page from MTG and introduced formats like "standard" and "legacy"? Would that be genius or would that just be impossible to work into a MOBA?
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On May 06 2016 05:02 phyvo wrote: Random thought: what if MOBAs like League of Legends and Dota 2 took a page from MTG and introduced formats like "standard" and "legacy"? Would that be genius or would that just be impossible to work into a MOBA?
I wonder if it would be that different. Patch cycles almost create this with what is "in meta" anyways.
Unless you're suggesting like... a yearly set of new heroes/champions or something like that.
That'd be NUTS.
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formats like this dont really make sense if you still keep updating the old pool in mtg they are fine since wizards cant update printed cards, so it's the only way to create formats of layered degeneracy, and you want at least some way to have people play a non-degenerate format. a game like HS wouldnt need to do this but they did it anyway even though they can patch degenerate cards instead to keep the game in an illusory state of accessability
mobas are better off patching the whole champ pool and hope it works out, people who just want variety get (usually) custom game modes, or in LoL maybe sometimes a different game mode but only for the weekend or something, wait there are other modes? better delete dominion
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Stuff like Captain's Draft is already a "limited" format.
It's interesting but I don't think it should be made into "the way" to play.
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Limited isn't even that great a format if you think about it. It's really just there because the monetization aspect of the game forces them to make it a format which alternatively impacts the quality of the other aspects of the game. They could potentially make it a really good format I think but then that may harm the monetization or again other formats. MTGs model is really just a lose lose when it comes to gameplay. Don't think we want to be looking at them for ideas that side.
Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format.
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Limited is super fun numy, reasons behind its existence notwithstanding. I still don't understand how you're already so jaded with a game you haven't been playing all that long.
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On May 06 2016 04:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2016 03:42 Gahlo wrote:On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots. PTSD already? My dreams have been freaking crazy lately man. Can it beat mine?
+ Show Spoiler +Last dream I had that I remember, my mother asked me to come over to my parents house. Why? So I can construct a two story tall recliner that is to be made out of old, fake christmas trees. It wasn't so bad, since the Rock was there for some reason to help me. So afterwards him and I go to a hotel to relax, because for some reason we had a hotel room. I guess the Rock and I are chill like that. Then for whatever reason blonde hair dark eyebrows from GoT comes in and starts banging the rock so no reason what so ever and then I wake up.
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Where are the overwatching ppls?
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On May 06 2016 05:55 Numy wrote: Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format. probably not significantly different, except you eliminate the few cases where a sealed pool ends up with 4 crap rares that do nothing because they were made for kitchen table decks
which is an incredibly small %
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On May 06 2016 07:06 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2016 05:55 Numy wrote: Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format. probably not significantly different, except you eliminate the few cases where a sealed pool ends up with 4 crap rares that do nothing because they were made for kitchen table decks which is an incredibly small % Tell that to every online pool I've ever opened lol
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you play online, you knew what you signed up for
but actually i meant because it is already relatively rare in sealed, but also people draft a LOT more than they play sealed so its an incredibly tiny % overall
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On May 06 2016 05:37 Dandel Ion wrote: formats like this dont really make sense if you still keep updating the old pool in mtg they are fine since wizards cant update printed cards, so it's the only way to create formats of layered degeneracy, and you want at least some way to have people play a non-degenerate format. a game like HS wouldnt need to do this but they did it anyway even though they can patch degenerate cards instead to keep the game in an illusory state of accessability
mobas are better off patching the whole champ pool and hope it works out, people who just want variety get (usually) custom game modes, or in LoL maybe sometimes a different game mode but only for the weekend or something, wait there are other modes? better delete dominion The other reason to do it is the rate of content expansion. When you're adding hundreds of new cards each year, a nonrotating format has an exponentially increasing number of card interactions to keep track of, which makes it harder to balance. Fixed format size at least makes the balance problem one of fixed complexity.
This is probably the real reason that Blizzard adopted a rotating standard format. Balancing the game is hard enough as is without them making the job more difficult for themselves by adding more moving parts.
As far as MOBA games go, neither Dota nor LoL adds content at a high enough rate for this to be necessary.
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On May 06 2016 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Limited is super fun numy, reasons behind its existence notwithstanding. I still don't understand how you're already so jaded with a game you haven't been playing all that long. I think Numy is referring to how good cubes draft way better than retail sets due to how a cube designer doesn't have to sacrifice set design for the sake of making money off people who crack packs for constructed staples.
Which isn't really wrong.
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