• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:46
CET 13:46
KST 21:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC211[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage19Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) Dark returns! GSL CK #7 4v4 Team Battle (Nov 19) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Korean players' earnings Hit New All-Time High! List of top players active on ShieldBattery SOOP Hosts SC1 & SC2 Event Tournament: Kevin Scrim BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Bisu's Team vs Shuttle's Team 2026-11-14
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Simple Questions, Simple Answers Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Free Space RTS Game, optimised f. Phone/Tablet etc List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5
Dota 2
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10752 users

The LiquidLegends Lounge - Page 1217

Forum Index > The Shopkeeper′s Inn
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1215 1216 1217 1218 1219 1885 Next
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 05 2016 18:17 GMT
#24321
On May 06 2016 03:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well what do you know.
Seems the higher ups maybe learned their lesson this time and don't want a 4th dead website.

All kinds of hilarious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 05 2016 18:42 GMT
#24322
On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 02:45 Eppa! wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/overwatch/ doesn't seem like it.


Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works


So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots.

PTSD already?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 05 2016 19:10 GMT
#24323
On May 06 2016 03:42 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 06 2016 02:45 Eppa! wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/overwatch/ doesn't seem like it.


Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works


So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots.

PTSD already?


My dreams have been freaking crazy lately man.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 05 2016 19:14 GMT
#24324
So I'm assuming some of you have had recurring dreams before, yes?
I used to have one when I was younger where people had weird color skin and my hair wouldn't stop growing or something. Found out many years later that there was apparently a movie that was very eerily similar to the dream I'd have, and to this date I have still never seen it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 05 2016 19:21 GMT
#24325
On May 06 2016 04:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
So I'm assuming some of you have had recurring dreams before, yes?
I used to have one when I was younger where people had weird color skin and my hair wouldn't stop growing or something. Found out many years later that there was apparently a movie that was very eerily similar to the dream I'd have, and to this date I have still never seen it.


I've had a few. The most impactful one started when I was pretty young and manifests usually as a nightmare. It takes a lot of different forms, but always revolves around an incredible feeling of being overwhelmed trying to understand the perspective of multiple people, even those across the world, all at once. It leaves me feeling very small afterwards.

It's interesting, thinking back, how early my feelings of sonder started.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 19:32:41
May 05 2016 19:32 GMT
#24326
Kept having nightmares about random shit that happened in the first X-Men movie. Who would've thought watching a pg-13 movie as a 7 year old would be a bad idea? Funnily enough it only lasted a few days and I just went ahead and watched actual scary movies and shit never really bothered me after.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
May 05 2016 19:47 GMT
#24327
When I was young there was a closed panel about a foot of the floor in my room that led to attic space. I used to dream all the time it would open and a goblin would be standing there with glowing eyes. Specifically the one from the fantasy tile set of a computer mahjong game.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
May 05 2016 20:02 GMT
#24328
Random thought: what if MOBAs like League of Legends and Dota 2 took a page from MTG and introduced formats like "standard" and "legacy"? Would that be genius or would that just be impossible to work into a MOBA?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 05 2016 20:13 GMT
#24329
On May 06 2016 05:02 phyvo wrote:
Random thought: what if MOBAs like League of Legends and Dota 2 took a page from MTG and introduced formats like "standard" and "legacy"? Would that be genius or would that just be impossible to work into a MOBA?


I wonder if it would be that different. Patch cycles almost create this with what is "in meta" anyways.

Unless you're suggesting like... a yearly set of new heroes/champions or something like that.

That'd be NUTS.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 05 2016 20:37 GMT
#24330
formats like this dont really make sense if you still keep updating the old pool
in mtg they are fine since wizards cant update printed cards, so it's the only way to create formats of layered degeneracy, and you want at least some way to have people play a non-degenerate format.
a game like HS wouldnt need to do this but they did it anyway even though they can patch degenerate cards instead to keep the game in an illusory state of accessability

mobas are better off patching the whole champ pool and hope it works out, people who just want variety get (usually) custom game modes, or in LoL maybe sometimes a different game mode but only for the weekend or something, wait there are other modes? better delete dominion
A backwards poet writes inverse.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 05 2016 20:48 GMT
#24331
Stuff like Captain's Draft is already a "limited" format.

It's interesting but I don't think it should be made into "the way" to play.
Writer@WriterYamato
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 20:58:08
May 05 2016 20:55 GMT
#24332
Limited isn't even that great a format if you think about it. It's really just there because the monetization aspect of the game forces them to make it a format which alternatively impacts the quality of the other aspects of the game. They could potentially make it a really good format I think but then that may harm the monetization or again other formats. MTGs model is really just a lose lose when it comes to gameplay. Don't think we want to be looking at them for ideas that side.

Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 05 2016 21:24 GMT
#24333
Limited is super fun numy, reasons behind its existence notwithstanding.
I still don't understand how you're already so jaded with a game you haven't been playing all that long.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
May 05 2016 21:38 GMT
#24334
On May 06 2016 04:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 03:42 Gahlo wrote:
On May 06 2016 02:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On May 06 2016 02:45 Eppa! wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/overwatch/ doesn't seem like it.


Weird, it tells me I don't have permission to view the thread from liquidlegends, but the TL link works


So you know how when you're playing a game a lot, and you starting imagining things/hearing things related to it? My sleep-deprived brain keeps hearing Widow shots.

PTSD already?


My dreams have been freaking crazy lately man.

Can it beat mine?

+ Show Spoiler +
Last dream I had that I remember, my mother asked me to come over to my parents house. Why? So I can construct a two story tall recliner that is to be made out of old, fake christmas trees. It wasn't so bad, since the Rock was there for some reason to help me. So afterwards him and I go to a hotel to relax, because for some reason we had a hotel room. I guess the Rock and I are chill like that. Then for whatever reason blonde hair dark eyebrows from GoT comes in and starts banging the rock so no reason what so ever and then I wake up.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
May 05 2016 21:48 GMT
#24335
Where are the overwatching ppls?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 05 2016 22:06 GMT
#24336
On May 06 2016 05:55 Numy wrote:
Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format.

probably not significantly different, except you eliminate the few cases where a sealed pool ends up with 4 crap rares that do nothing because they were made for kitchen table decks

which is an incredibly small %
A backwards poet writes inverse.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 05 2016 22:07 GMT
#24337
On May 06 2016 07:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2016 05:55 Numy wrote:
Man I'm actually interested now in what MTG limited format may be like if they didn't have to intentionally design to sell packs but instead design purely best experience in the format.

probably not significantly different, except you eliminate the few cases where a sealed pool ends up with 4 crap rares that do nothing because they were made for kitchen table decks

which is an incredibly small %

Tell that to every online pool I've ever opened lol
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 22:12:34
May 05 2016 22:11 GMT
#24338
you play online, you knew what you signed up for

but actually i meant because it is already relatively rare in sealed, but also people draft a LOT more than they play sealed so its an incredibly tiny % overall
A backwards poet writes inverse.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-05 22:30:30
May 05 2016 22:28 GMT
#24339
On May 06 2016 05:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
formats like this dont really make sense if you still keep updating the old pool
in mtg they are fine since wizards cant update printed cards, so it's the only way to create formats of layered degeneracy, and you want at least some way to have people play a non-degenerate format.
a game like HS wouldnt need to do this but they did it anyway even though they can patch degenerate cards instead to keep the game in an illusory state of accessability

mobas are better off patching the whole champ pool and hope it works out, people who just want variety get (usually) custom game modes, or in LoL maybe sometimes a different game mode but only for the weekend or something, wait there are other modes? better delete dominion

The other reason to do it is the rate of content expansion. When you're adding hundreds of new cards each year, a nonrotating format has an exponentially increasing number of card interactions to keep track of, which makes it harder to balance. Fixed format size at least makes the balance problem one of fixed complexity.

This is probably the real reason that Blizzard adopted a rotating standard format. Balancing the game is hard enough as is without them making the job more difficult for themselves by adding more moving parts.

As far as MOBA games go, neither Dota nor LoL adds content at a high enough rate for this to be necessary.
Moderator
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 05 2016 22:33 GMT
#24340
On May 06 2016 06:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Limited is super fun numy, reasons behind its existence notwithstanding.
I still don't understand how you're already so jaded with a game you haven't been playing all that long.

I think Numy is referring to how good cubes draft way better than retail sets due to how a cube designer doesn't have to sacrifice set design for the sake of making money off people who crack packs for constructed staples.

Which isn't really wrong.
Moderator
Prev 1 1215 1216 1217 1218 1219 1885 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
SHIN vs RogueLIVE!
ByuN vs Solar
MaxPax vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
WardiTV939
TaKeTV 350
Rex133
Liquipedia
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #155 (PatchesSC Mod)
herO vs ByuNLIVE!
ByuN391
CranKy Ducklings133
CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 391
Rex 133
Codebar 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5462
Rain 1832
Shuttle 1827
Soulkey 1457
BeSt 696
Light 537
Mini 503
Hyuk 297
firebathero 263
actioN 181
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 167
Last 150
ZerO 144
Killer 141
hero 132
Mind 131
Zeus 114
Snow 108
Larva 84
Pusan 84
Barracks 81
Hyun 61
Yoon 46
sorry 35
Mong 34
ToSsGirL 31
PianO 31
Free 24
Aegong 23
Hm[arnc] 23
Sharp 21
JYJ 20
910 18
HiyA 15
soO 15
scan(afreeca) 14
Sacsri 12
yabsab 12
NaDa 8
Icarus 1
Dota 2
Gorgc6746
XcaliburYe206
monkeys_forever204
Counter-Strike
x6flipin344
Other Games
FrodaN3060
singsing2087
B2W.Neo413
Happy333
XaKoH 184
ToD181
KnowMe129
ZerO(Twitch)13
CosmosSc2 11
Organizations
StarCraft 2
ComeBackTV 705
IntoTheiNu 623
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 14
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
4h 14m
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
7h 14m
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
SOOP
21h 14m
soO vs FanTaSy
WardiTV Weekly
23h 14m
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
BSL
6 days
eOnzErG vs StRyKeR
Cross vs JDConan
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-14
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
IEM Kraków 2027
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.