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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 20:27:29
March 30 2015 20:25 GMT
#93301
I feel pretty good that I finished by my Modern deck with the one key piece.

An Iona for 20 bucks seems awesome.

edit: I've watched grown ass men forced to karaoke Madonna songs. Pretty lolzy just sayin.
Forever Young
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 30 2015 20:25 GMT
#93302
Actually, on second thought, not so convinced on Chromaggus.

Looks good but there's a lot of good 8 mana legendaries.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 30 2015 20:27 GMT
#93303
On March 31 2015 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
I feel pretty good that I finished by my Modern deck with the one key piece.

An Iona for 20 bucks seems awesome.


Not a bad grab. I ended up get my play set of the dragonlords and commands from the new set for like 60 bucks.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 30 2015 20:27 GMT
#93304
It's basically the cousin of Thoughtsteal.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
March 30 2015 20:27 GMT
#93305
On March 31 2015 05:24 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:20 Zdrastochye wrote:
On March 31 2015 05:15 Cixah wrote:
Idk how much tcg exp you have zdra, but cards that effectly become copies 3-5 or 6-8 are really really good. Yea you have to draw them but that's the same mind set of, "this card is bad because mage can fireball it." They still have to spend the card to get the effect and they have two to my 5+


I'm a professional child at an online children's card game.

And no, if they're mid-ranging you out of the game those extra copies won't come into play. Gang Up is a fantastic later mid-game into lategame card with very little early game impact, besides activating a combo card.


I agree, it doesn't affect current board state almost ever. But that's not the point of the card. It's a very different kind of card that hearthstone hasn't had before and I'm telling you it is quite good.

Well, it's kinda like Malorne, except it's not utterly trash
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
March 30 2015 20:28 GMT
#93306
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 30 2015 20:28 GMT
#93307
On March 31 2015 05:25 Ketara wrote:
Actually, on second thought, not so convinced on Chromaggus.

Looks good but there's a lot of good 8 mana legendaries.


Chromaggus will be great for Paladin. Consort Turn 5 -> Chromaggus Turn 6 (or any other 8 drop Dragon for that matter) will be pretty hard to deal with.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 30 2015 20:29 GMT
#93308
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.


#justeurothings
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 30 2015 20:29 GMT
#93309
I'm telling you that it's not as good of a card that you think it is because it's a win-more card that only helps if you can get ahead to draw its benefits. Getting ahead as rogue is usually not too hard to do but then you're playing a tempo rogue which is reliant on ending the game earlier rather than waiting for 3 copies of cards.

I'll just agree to disagree with you, I think Gang Up is one of the weaker cards in the constructed format because there's not yet been a very powerful control rogue deck that would make use of it.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 20:34:35
March 30 2015 20:32 GMT
#93310
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.


give it 3 days, you'll be in a stubbly, itchy hell

On March 31 2015 05:29 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.


#justeurothings


distinctly untrue
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 20:36:57
March 30 2015 20:36 GMT
#93311
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.


Wtf looooooool

I can understand pubes/ballz, but.....

On March 31 2015 05:27 Cixah wrote:
Not a bad grab. I ended up get my play set of the dragonlords and commands from the new set for like 60 bucks.


Noice. Reading up on some of them now. Not sure what Standard looks like nowadays, but the G/W and U/W ones look like they're the best. U/W is almost guaranteed to attack at least once.
Forever Young
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 30 2015 20:36 GMT
#93312
On March 31 2015 05:17 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I had to sing for live for you shitters, and if I fucked it up really bad, I'd never hear the end of it.

You say that as if we couldn't find something else, anything else, if we wanted to pester you.

On top of that, I've never sung live for any number of people.

Well it's never too late!

Karaoke tip: get someone who sings good to sing with you or choose something you know people will sing along to. There, noone will pay attention to your voice!
Plus it's not like people are actually good singers. Well... there's a guy from the conservatoire who comes sometimes, last he sang something it was an Italian opera song which he just sang a capella and filled the whole bar and beyong with. There are people with really good voices too. There are also awful people, and a bunch who aren't in synch with the tune at all even when they have a decent voice. Sometimes they sing badly, have a meh voice, and even choose trash like Fun or that one disney song for the 4th time in 4 evenings and you're tired of it.
Just grab a few people and go try it, let a few people let go (forcibly) or their ego first so you get some time to realise it's not that bad, then go for it!

My voice is bad and my range is very narrow, plus I choose a bunch of stuff you sing with your guts but I can't truly push it or my voice gets even worse, and I'm not even the worst one there.

On March 31 2015 05:17 Ketara wrote:
Quick Shot and Chromaggus look really good to me.

Chromaggus too slow.
The chaman card that gain 1-4 attack from its battlecry is gonna be so annoying when it rolls high though, it'll feel like playing against druid. x')
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 30 2015 20:36 GMT
#93313
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.



Whoa did you do a full shave or just a trim. Full shave seems scary to me.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 30 2015 20:37 GMT
#93314
On March 31 2015 05:29 Zdrastochye wrote:
I'm telling you that it's not as good of a card that you think it is because it's a win-more card that only helps if you can get ahead to draw its benefits. Getting ahead as rogue is usually not too hard to do but then you're playing a tempo rogue which is reliant on ending the game earlier rather than waiting for 3 copies of cards.

If you have a good card in your deck, you want as many of it as possible. If card limits didn't exist in MtG or HS, I assure you there would be a lot of cards people would happily splurge really hard for. Gang Up basically lets you do that for a small cost. The drawback is probably not that huge because if you're playing a good deck you should have good cards to copy anyway. You're getting +1 extra mana every turn so you're not worried about ramping into this. And your deck size is small enough that even if you play this very early you will probably see at least one extra copy of the card you want before the game ends.

Gang Up isn't a card that will fit into every deck. But the way it currently is, it's a good card.

On March 31 2015 05:27 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
I feel pretty good that I finished by my Modern deck with the one key piece.

An Iona for 20 bucks seems awesome.


Not a bad grab. I ended up get my play set of the dragonlords and commands from the new set for like 60 bucks.

Wow nice value.

Btw Cixah random question. I've suddenly developed an urge for the really cool creature tokens that SCG makes. (Kristen Plescow's art is so good!) But there doesn't seem to be many places I can actually get them without paying through the nose. Do you have any suggestions? I'm more into the cute creature collection series and Soldier/Spirit/etc. tokens than the ones representing pro-players.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
March 30 2015 20:37 GMT
#93315
On March 31 2015 05:28 Doctorbeat wrote:
Upside of shaving my ass hair: wiping is incredibly easy after taking a shit.

Downside of shaving my ass: Farts that used to be silent aren't anymore.

and its a completely different noise. very startling.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 30 2015 20:39 GMT
#93316
On March 31 2015 05:29 Zdrastochye wrote:
I'm telling you that it's not as good of a card that you think it is because it's a win-more card that only helps if you can get ahead to draw its benefits. Getting ahead as rogue is usually not too hard to do but then you're playing a tempo rogue which is reliant on ending the game earlier rather than waiting for 3 copies of cards.

I'll just agree to disagree with you, I think Gang Up is one of the weaker cards in the constructed format because there's not yet been a very powerful control rogue deck that would make use of it.


I think it's a card that's very hard to evaluate in terms of competitiveness. It's easy enough to look at current Rogue decks and say, "Well, this doesn't really fit." and that's fine, but I think it's a stretch to say this card can't end up being the lynchpin of a future Rogue deck.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 30 2015 20:45 GMT
#93317
On March 31 2015 05:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:29 Zdrastochye wrote:
I'm telling you that it's not as good of a card that you think it is because it's a win-more card that only helps if you can get ahead to draw its benefits. Getting ahead as rogue is usually not too hard to do but then you're playing a tempo rogue which is reliant on ending the game earlier rather than waiting for 3 copies of cards.

If you have a good card in your deck, you want as many of it as possible. If card limits didn't exist in MtG or HS, I assure you there would be a lot of cards people would happily splurge really hard for. Gang Up basically lets you do that for a small cost. The drawback is probably not that huge because if you're playing a good deck you should have good cards to copy anyway. You're getting +1 extra mana every turn so you're not worried about ramping into this. And your deck size is small enough that even if you play this very early you will probably see at least one extra copy of the card you want before the game ends.

Gang Up isn't a card that will fit into every deck. But the way it currently is, it's a good card.

Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:27 Cixah wrote:
On March 31 2015 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
I feel pretty good that I finished by my Modern deck with the one key piece.

An Iona for 20 bucks seems awesome.


Not a bad grab. I ended up get my play set of the dragonlords and commands from the new set for like 60 bucks.

Wow nice value.

Btw Cixah random question. I've suddenly developed an urge for the really cool creature tokens that SCG makes. (Kristen Plescow's art is so good!) But there doesn't seem to be many places I can actually get them without paying through the nose. Do you have any suggestions? I'm more into the cute creature collection series and Soldier/Spirit/etc. tokens than the ones representing pro-players.


IIRC the creature collection is through the star city game night stuff which ends up being like fnm and what not on a different night if your store wants in. Idk if starcity sells the cards individually (I think wizards doesn't like it tbh) but as far as that goes I need about 10 more Dylan donagan elementals lol.
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 20:51:12
March 30 2015 20:48 GMT
#93318
Its not going to be used in oil rogue maybe there will be some new meta rogue deck but I doubt it.
Resurrect is strong in standard priest because of insane value and tempo it can give with blademasters and soul priest.

Fireguard is insane probably the best in minion this expansion. It has incredible stats, it does not block turn 6 fire elemental.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 30 2015 20:52 GMT
#93319
On March 31 2015 05:48 Eppa! wrote:
Its not going to be used in oil rogue maybe there will be some new meta rogue deck but I doubt it.
Resurrect is strong in standard priest because of insane value and tempo it can give with blademasters and soul priest.

Fireguard is insane probably the best in minion this expansion. It has incredible stats, it does not block turn 6 fire elemental.

At worst it's 4/6 for "5." Seems pretty good.
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
March 30 2015 21:01 GMT
#93320
On March 31 2015 05:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:29 Zdrastochye wrote:
I'm telling you that it's not as good of a card that you think it is because it's a win-more card that only helps if you can get ahead to draw its benefits. Getting ahead as rogue is usually not too hard to do but then you're playing a tempo rogue which is reliant on ending the game earlier rather than waiting for 3 copies of cards.

If you have a good card in your deck, you want as many of it as possible. If card limits didn't exist in MtG or HS, I assure you there would be a lot of cards people would happily splurge really hard for. Gang Up basically lets you do that for a small cost. The drawback is probably not that huge because if you're playing a good deck you should have good cards to copy anyway. You're getting +1 extra mana every turn so you're not worried about ramping into this. And your deck size is small enough that even if you play this very early you will probably see at least one extra copy of the card you want before the game ends.

Gang Up isn't a card that will fit into every deck. But the way it currently is, it's a good card.

Show nested quote +
On March 31 2015 05:27 Cixah wrote:
On March 31 2015 05:25 sung_moon wrote:
I feel pretty good that I finished by my Modern deck with the one key piece.

An Iona for 20 bucks seems awesome.


Not a bad grab. I ended up get my play set of the dragonlords and commands from the new set for like 60 bucks.

Wow nice value.

Btw Cixah random question. I've suddenly developed an urge for the really cool creature tokens that SCG makes. (Kristen Plescow's art is so good!) But there doesn't seem to be many places I can actually get them without paying through the nose. Do you have any suggestions? I'm more into the cute creature collection series and Soldier/Spirit/etc. tokens than the ones representing pro-players.


I would totally agree with your assessment of including as many good cards into a deck as you should, except I don't agree that Gang Up is across the board a great card. Situationally it's very strong like divine favor for mini pally (thanks Cixah) decks, or like how good naturalize is in mill druid decks. I think Gang Up is at least on par with how strong those cards are in their prospective decks, but I wouldn't rate it much higher than that.

Every card is good and bad in and against certain decks, I absolutely do not believe Gang Up is one of the strongest cards in BRM however, not like Thaurissan. I don't even think it can hold a torch in comparison.
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