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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 22:21:59
July 04 2020 22:21 GMT
#201
overall I think we all agree you can imagine things that are somehow anchored in some reality (even mental). The imperfections of the imagined things compared to the actual things are more due to a default of calculation (really taking every parameter into account, which is practically impossible) rather than a default of modelization (if everything it's based on is anchored in reality, you can imagine it).

but yeah, back to the games I think ^^
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 04 2020 22:22 GMT
#202
On July 05 2020 07:18 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:15 Penev wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:13 [PkF] Wire wrote:
ok I'm watching without sound but it looks like Nina is playing after all ?

I'm doing the same as you so beats me

But shouldn't it be possible to imagine anything as long as the imagination (or dream) is made up of elements you have seen before?

that's what I was arguing but actually I'm not sure anymore.

Let's say for instance that you're in love with someone and wondering if you should tell them. You picture the confession in your head based on your previous experiences, your knowledge of the person, etc. But then when you do it it usually feels nothing like what you had imagined. But one could argue that what was the problem here was a lack of anticipation, not a lack of imagination (you could have imagined if you'd have known how that'd feel, etc). It's very complicated.


Yea it can never really be the same to think about it and experience it. Once you actually experience it there is another person there, a real one, who will impact reality in ways that you could only have anticipated if you were able to create a 100% accurate copy of their personality in your mind. And imo that will never be possible. (that's not saying that you could never anticipate certain things, of course. Like Maru was always going to 2-rax etc)
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:24 GMT
#203
just visited Nina's twitter and she seems to have deleted the storm tweet. Everything probably just fixed itself
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 04 2020 22:24 GMT
#204
Well I imagine it could be tough for Nina to be literally playing through a storm.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:29 GMT
#205
I like Semper's composition a bit more. Will probably need to add more phoenix if he wants to deal with the disruptors in an efficient way.
yay the second stargate
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
July 04 2020 22:31 GMT
#206
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:32 GMT
#207
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
July 04 2020 22:32 GMT
#208
It's been a while since I've seen any announcements
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
July 04 2020 22:35 GMT
#209
On July 05 2020 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong

Alphabet/ Google discontinuing a project? I never!

Would be a shame, I found it quite interesting
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:35 GMT
#210
I love how they're both getting shadow stride at nearly exactly the same time
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 22:37:24
July 04 2020 22:36 GMT
#211
On July 05 2020 07:32 Penev wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen any announcements


Last I heard they took it down because they had got what they wanted. This was also when it was starting to beat top tier pros, so I imagine there could have been a deal with blizzard that they had to stop it at that point.

On July 05 2020 07:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong

Alphabet/ Google discontinuing a project? I never!

Would be a shame, I found it quite interesting


I think they have continued the project but just not in Starcraft...
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 22:37:06
July 04 2020 22:36 GMT
#212
On July 05 2020 07:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong

Alphabet/ Google discontinuing a project? I never!

Would be a shame, I found it quite interesting

that was very interesting indeed but I think that once they achieve what they had in mind they move on to another challenge. They did it with go and chess, I don't see why they wouldn't move on with sc2. Dunno the next step though.
On July 05 2020 07:36 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:32 Penev wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen any announcements


Last I heard they took it down because they had got what they wanted. This was also when it was starting to beat top tier pros, so I imagine there could have been a deal with blizzard that they had to stop it at that point.

yeah pretty much this
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 04 2020 22:38 GMT
#213
This new patch really has done wonders for pvp.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
July 04 2020 22:39 GMT
#214
On July 05 2020 07:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:35 Penev wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong

Alphabet/ Google discontinuing a project? I never!

Would be a shame, I found it quite interesting

that was very interesting indeed but I think that once they achieve what they had in mind they move on to another challenge. They did it with go and chess, I don't see why they wouldn't move on with sc2. Dunno the next step though.
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:36 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:32 Penev wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen any announcements


Last I heard they took it down because they had got what they wanted. This was also when it was starting to beat top tier pros, so I imagine there could have been a deal with blizzard that they had to stop it at that point.

yeah pretty much this

Yeah but they didn't really prove (to the world) the agents would reliably win vs the best like with Go
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:39 GMT
#215
On July 05 2020 07:38 sneakyfox wrote:
This new patch really has done wonders for pvp.

sarcasm, right ?
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
July 04 2020 22:40 GMT
#216
Worst recall 2020? Right into disruptor shots.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 04 2020 22:41 GMT
#217
Turns out Nina can weather the storm just fine
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 04 2020 22:42 GMT
#218
On July 05 2020 07:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:38 sneakyfox wrote:
This new patch really has done wonders for pvp.

sarcasm, right ?


No seriously. Taking your third is no longer ultra late game, it's not over in a blink of an eye. You don't like it?
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
July 04 2020 22:43 GMT
#219
On July 05 2020 07:39 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:36 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:35 Penev wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:32 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:31 Penev wrote:
How is Alphastar doing these days btw?

I don't think they are continuing this project, but people who actually know the answer will correct me if I'm wrong

Alphabet/ Google discontinuing a project? I never!

Would be a shame, I found it quite interesting

that was very interesting indeed but I think that once they achieve what they had in mind they move on to another challenge. They did it with go and chess, I don't see why they wouldn't move on with sc2. Dunno the next step though.
On July 05 2020 07:36 sneakyfox wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:32 Penev wrote:
It's been a while since I've seen any announcements


Last I heard they took it down because they had got what they wanted. This was also when it was starting to beat top tier pros, so I imagine there could have been a deal with blizzard that they had to stop it at that point.

yeah pretty much this

Yeah but they didn't really prove (to the world) the agents would reliably win vs the best like with Go


That could have been blizzard's condition for letting them use the ladder though, that they couldn't beat the best. Go, on the other hand, is not controlled by anyone so google could do as they pleased.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-04 22:44:57
July 04 2020 22:44 GMT
#220
On July 05 2020 07:42 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2020 07:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 05 2020 07:38 sneakyfox wrote:
This new patch really has done wonders for pvp.

sarcasm, right ?


No seriously. Taking your third is no longer ultra late game, it's not over in a blink of an eye. You don't like it?

well I used to play Protoss and PvP was the main reason I stopped actually playing the game so I'm a bit biased here, it's hard for me to appreciate PvP even in an overall interesting game like this one. That's why I asked and I'm sincerely glad you enjoy it. For me the pts is too hard to overcome !
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