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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:47 GMT
#761
On July 10 2020 01:46 whiterabbit wrote:
Sad for souL, he is always so often like one or two steps to really good results and legit relevance. :/

he's still a young player, I think he has it in him and will soon get a breakthrough performance
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 16:55:07
July 09 2020 16:48 GMT
#762
On July 10 2020 01:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:45 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:43 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:
Now for wall vs little dragon.. Gonna be wall probably

Probably but PvP is still PvP

honestly if this PvP is anything like yesterday's (Neeb - Astrea) I'll have to agree the mu has become rather watchable, even for a historic PvP hater like me

Didn't watch :/ But recent pvps make me agree (but recent disruptors Games still are quite clowney :D)

I found myself enjoying it. Astrea even nearly made a Nexus first work lol

In the Taiwan playoff finals in Has vs Nice, Has went nexus first 2 or 3 times out of 5 games and did really well with it.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:50 GMT
#763
On July 10 2020 01:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:45 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:43 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:
Now for wall vs little dragon.. Gonna be wall probably

Probably but PvP is still PvP

honestly if this PvP is anything like yesterday's (Neeb - Astrea) I'll have to agree the mu has become rather watchable, even for a historic PvP hater like me

Didn't watch :/ But recent pvps make me agree (but recent disruptors Games still are quite clowney :D)

I found myself enjoying it. Astrea even nearly made a Nexus first work lol

In the Taiwan playoff finals in Has vs Nice, Has went nexus first 4 or 5 times out of 6 games and did really well with it.

I really liked Neeb's response which featured a lot of void rays and his own proxy shield batteries

But that's very interesting to hear, could shake the meta of this mu quite a bit
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:50 GMT
#764
ok time for the match, sorry Showtime I'll root for my fellow countryman ! Gogo Drogo !
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
July 09 2020 16:51 GMT
#765
If I dont see 1 gate expand or nexus first at least from one side every game im disappointed
~~~~~
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:51 GMT
#766
Submarine and Golden Wall to open the ball
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
July 09 2020 16:51 GMT
#767
On July 10 2020 01:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:46 whiterabbit wrote:
Sad for souL, he is always so often like one or two steps to really good results and legit relevance. :/

he's still a young player, I think he has it in him and will soon get a breakthrough performance


Really hope so, when he is feeling it he is so fun T to watch!
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 16:52:11
July 09 2020 16:51 GMT
#768
On July 10 2020 01:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:48 Elentos wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:45 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:43 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:
Now for wall vs little dragon.. Gonna be wall probably

Probably but PvP is still PvP

honestly if this PvP is anything like yesterday's (Neeb - Astrea) I'll have to agree the mu has become rather watchable, even for a historic PvP hater like me

Didn't watch :/ But recent pvps make me agree (but recent disruptors Games still are quite clowney :D)

I found myself enjoying it. Astrea even nearly made a Nexus first work lol

In the Taiwan playoff finals in Has vs Nice, Has went nexus first 4 or 5 times out of 6 games and did really well with it.

I really liked Neeb's response which featured a lot of void rays and his own proxy shield batteries

But that's very interesting to hear, could shake the meta of this mu quite a bit

The power of the battery overcharge kept him safe from reactionary aggression (e. g. a proxied 3rd gate).
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:53 GMT
#769
On July 10 2020 01:51 whiterabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:46 whiterabbit wrote:
Sad for souL, he is always so often like one or two steps to really good results and legit relevance. :/

he's still a young player, I think he has it in him and will soon get a breakthrough performance


Really hope so, when he is feeling it he is so fun T to watch!

agree. I think his issues are more about him managing to keep his level of play good enough when the stakes are high and you tend to become shaky. You could clearly see how he dropped one or two levels quality of play wise once he got a winning position vs MaNa.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:55 GMT
#770
On July 10 2020 01:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:48 Elentos wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:45 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:43 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:
Now for wall vs little dragon.. Gonna be wall probably

Probably but PvP is still PvP

honestly if this PvP is anything like yesterday's (Neeb - Astrea) I'll have to agree the mu has become rather watchable, even for a historic PvP hater like me

Didn't watch :/ But recent pvps make me agree (but recent disruptors Games still are quite clowney :D)

I found myself enjoying it. Astrea even nearly made a Nexus first work lol

In the Taiwan playoff finals in Has vs Nice, Has went nexus first 4 or 5 times out of 6 games and did really well with it.

I really liked Neeb's response which featured a lot of void rays and his own proxy shield batteries

But that's very interesting to hear, could shake the meta of this mu quite a bit

The power of the battery overcharge kept him safe from reactionary aggression (e. g. a proxied 3rd gate).

I think builds that proxy heavy hitting units (VRs or immos, VR seem better to me since stargate can also net eco kills with an oracle first) and build shield batteries at the front of the natural can still beat Nexus first, but this is a theory discussion I'm eager to see pros have
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:56 GMT
#771
Nexus first from the memelord, we get our wish ^^
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 16:59:02
July 09 2020 16:57 GMT
#772
On July 10 2020 01:55 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:51 Elentos wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:50 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:48 Elentos wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:46 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:45 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:44 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:43 darklycid wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:42 Penev wrote:
Now for wall vs little dragon.. Gonna be wall probably

Probably but PvP is still PvP

honestly if this PvP is anything like yesterday's (Neeb - Astrea) I'll have to agree the mu has become rather watchable, even for a historic PvP hater like me

Didn't watch :/ But recent pvps make me agree (but recent disruptors Games still are quite clowney :D)

I found myself enjoying it. Astrea even nearly made a Nexus first work lol

In the Taiwan playoff finals in Has vs Nice, Has went nexus first 4 or 5 times out of 6 games and did really well with it.

I really liked Neeb's response which featured a lot of void rays and his own proxy shield batteries

But that's very interesting to hear, could shake the meta of this mu quite a bit

The power of the battery overcharge kept him safe from reactionary aggression (e. g. a proxied 3rd gate).

I think builds that proxy heavy hitting units (VRs or immos, VR seem better to me since stargate can also net eco kills with an oracle first) and build shield batteries at the front of the natural can still beat Nexus first, but this is a theory discussion I'm eager to see pros have

Probably. I mean it takes a while for the nexus to pay for itself and for you to catch up in army.

If you know your opponent is prone to nexus first you can just blind counter it tho if you feel it's coming imo.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:57 GMT
#773
ok Showtime goes for the proxy answer. I'm already so excited to see this game !
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 16:59 GMT
#774
that phoenix and that lift were soooo good
whiterabbit
Profile Joined June 2009
2675 Posts
July 09 2020 17:00 GMT
#775
On July 10 2020 01:53 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2020 01:51 whiterabbit wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:47 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On July 10 2020 01:46 whiterabbit wrote:
Sad for souL, he is always so often like one or two steps to really good results and legit relevance. :/

he's still a young player, I think he has it in him and will soon get a breakthrough performance


Really hope so, when he is feeling it he is so fun T to watch!

agree. I think his issues are more about him managing to keep his level of play good enough when the stakes are high and you tend to become shaky. You could clearly see how he dropped one or two levels quality of play wise once he got a winning position vs MaNa.


Yeah, sometimes it feels like pressure when he is so close to make a great result gets to him. Hopefully he overcomes that and we get to see him play in his full potential more often!
NUTELLA y u no make me skinny?!?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 17:01 GMT
#776
this is so tense
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
July 09 2020 17:01 GMT
#777
I'm like actually worried that if you can hold proxy robo with nexus first this will eventually become a phoenix meta again.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 17:02 GMT
#778
On July 10 2020 02:01 Elentos wrote:
I'm like actually worried that if you can hold proxy robo with nexus first this will eventually become a phoenix meta again.

possible, although seeing this I really think proxy stargate is more menacing to Nexus first
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
July 09 2020 17:02 GMT
#779
My God Showtime's control to keep the prism alive is incredible
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
July 09 2020 17:03 GMT
#780
that prism is on its 4th or 5th life already
I Protoss winner, could it be?
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