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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 07 2020 19:50 GMT
#461
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 07 2020 19:51 GMT
#462
I mean this game has been over since the first mutas came out and it's just a boring death animation since then since there's been 0 comeback potential for Showtime at any point
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 07 2020 19:51 GMT
#463
Catz jokingly says "you just gg" but I've been thinking that for some time, there's no point playing out that kind of situation, I even think you give Serral even more confidence and momentum by allowing him to play out those endgames
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 19:54:38
July 07 2020 19:53 GMT
#464
On July 08 2020 04:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment

implying serral wont defend them perfectly

I wanna see him try some Robo stuff. a collossi timing or disruptors
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 07 2020 19:53 GMT
#465
Showtime doesn't know how to be disgusting sadly
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 07 2020 19:54 GMT
#466
On July 08 2020 04:51 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Catz jokingly says "you just gg" but I've been thinking that for some time, there's no point playing out that kind of situation, I even think you give Serral even more confidence and momentum by allowing him to play out those endgames

Yeah I dunno about Showtime's state of mind but I personally would have left a lot earlier in both games. But who knows what he's thinking (though surely he doesn't think he can win by just not dying long enough?)
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 19:54:59
July 07 2020 19:54 GMT
#467
Showtime just plays a terrible style against Serral. Either go for all the timings, or if you absolutely want to play macro do something like two stargate carrier. Playing honorable PvZ openings with oracles and a quick third is hopeless.
Kuchikikun
Profile Joined March 2013
Italy560 Posts
July 07 2020 19:55 GMT
#468
On July 08 2020 04:53 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2020 04:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment

implying serral wont defend them perfectly


That's the big problem,PvZ is balanced on Aligulac because low tier GM and High gm can't defend properly against Adept printer.
As soon as you are against top tier players you're going to lose with it cause they can defend it easily and the winrate changes drastically.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 07 2020 19:55 GMT
#469
On July 08 2020 04:53 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2020 04:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment

implying serral wont defend them perfectly


That wasn't implied but who knows. He has to try something different and sitting back is certainly not working, so going on the aggressive would be the way to go.
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
July 07 2020 19:56 GMT
#470
On July 08 2020 04:55 sneakyfox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2020 04:53 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
On July 08 2020 04:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment

implying serral wont defend them perfectly


That wasn't implied but who knows. He has to try something different and sitting back is certainly not working, so going on the aggressive would be the way to go.

at least it will be over sooner
I Protoss winner, could it be?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 07 2020 19:57 GMT
#471
On July 08 2020 04:53 Andi_Goldberger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2020 04:50 sneakyfox wrote:
Maybe try some adepts next game, I hear they're good at the moment

implying serral wont defend them perfectly

yeah I really doubt Serral wouldn't know how to deal with them - when the Z produces the right amount of units and controls well the adept opening can look silly. I mean Showtime had the perfect gameplan in g1 and didn't convert, he should just play in the same way but try something more decisive, even if it doesn't work it has some chance of working...
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 07 2020 19:57 GMT
#472
The trickiest thing Showtime has done all series is expanding in a somewhat unexpected direction
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 19:58:41
July 07 2020 19:57 GMT
#473
Well Showtime is trying something, let's see

e: Not an expert, but that did not look like game ending damage
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8218 Posts
July 07 2020 19:59 GMT
#474
Two-base play with proxy and glaives, Showtime is clearly reading the LR
"I saw what sneakyfox wrote on TL.net and it made me furious" - PartinG
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 07 2020 20:00 GMT
#475
well this is at least getting somewhere
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 20:01:20
July 07 2020 20:00 GMT
#476
this is a pretty cool way to play the map, and I have to eat my words. lets go

after losing to adept printer at katowice I really thought serral would be more than ready for this lol
~~~~~
Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-07 20:00:43
July 07 2020 20:00 GMT
#477
On July 08 2020 04:53 Penev wrote:
Showtime doesn't know how to be disgusting sadly

Looks like he is just proving you wrong
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
July 07 2020 20:01 GMT
#478
hey maybe this was a harder hitting version than usual adept timings, but it worked !
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
July 07 2020 20:01 GMT
#479
Single g? Tilt?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 07 2020 20:01 GMT
#480
Single g salt
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
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