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[GSL Code S] Season 1 2017 - Quarter Finals Day 2 - Page 24

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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
February 25 2017 13:38 GMT
#461
On February 25 2017 21:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Very very weird season. T players trying their best not to win this GSL but this won't keep them from getting mines nerfed ^^

Rooting for soO from now on.


what are you talking about ? All the favorite Terrans are eliminated (only 1 advanced by TvT) and you are here, still complaining about wm ?
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
February 25 2017 14:27 GMT
#462
On February 25 2017 22:38 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 21:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Very very weird season. T players trying their best not to win this GSL but this won't keep them from getting mines nerfed ^^

Rooting for soO from now on.


what are you talking about ? All the favorite Terrans are eliminated (only 1 advanced by TvT) and you are here, still complaining about wm ?


It's simply because Terran losing in two incredibly close sets does not mean that Terran isn't imbalanced. I mean two fairly equally skilled people can win against each other on a given day, and one race can be stronger than the other.

But regardless, soO, Stats, sOs, and Ryung are left, and they are all players who have done well in tournaments but have never won a GSL before. I think it is very gratifying that this GSL will be a great storyline for anyone of this players.

I mean Ryung:Avenging his ro4 loss to finally claim the GSL
sOs:Blizzcon and IEM champion finally adds the elusive GSL to his titles
soO: Ultimate vindication and ending of his Kong line
Stats: Out of the shadows to win his first Premier tournament

I mean these guys have never won a Starleague, but they've all come within at least a ro4 of making it.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
February 25 2017 14:43 GMT
#463
Imagine if Slayers second son wins a GSL so late in his career. Gogo Ryung.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 25 2017 14:54 GMT
#464
On February 25 2017 22:38 ParksonVN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 21:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Very very weird season. T players trying their best not to win this GSL but this won't keep them from getting mines nerfed ^^

Rooting for soO from now on.


what are you talking about ? All the favorite Terrans are eliminated (only 1 advanced by TvT) and you are here, still complaining about wm ?

I don't think that's him complaining about widow mines as much as it is him saying Blizzard are gonna nerf them no matter how the Terrans would have done.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 25 2017 15:00 GMT
#465
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung


They all forgot about that GomTvT
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
February 25 2017 15:00 GMT
#466
On February 25 2017 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 19:43 Elentos wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung

But you said he was gonna win with positioning in spite of doom drops. Not that he's gonna win because of doom drops. And Maru going for the "Throw of the Century" award.

Throw of the century? Even though that Has game happened?


Even though Life was a person?
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Hushfieldx
Profile Joined December 2016
Belgium64 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-25 15:09:21
February 25 2017 15:08 GMT
#467
I enoyed today's games, was really happy for Ryung that he made it through. Also quite shocked at the amount of negativity in Twitch chat during the games though. (On re-reading that last sentence, I shouldn't have been.) I'll admit I enjoy watching GSL more with Tastosis too, but there's other ways to voice your criticism. So, Rapid and Valdez: thanks for casting, but next time I would enjoy some actual analysis of the games being played.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 25 2017 15:14 GMT
#468
On February 25 2017 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 19:43 Elentos wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung

But you said he was gonna win with positioning in spite of doom drops. Not that he's gonna win because of doom drops. And Maru going for the "Throw of the Century" award.

Throw of the century? Even though that Has game happened?


It terms of what actually happened in game. Has was a bigger throw, he could have done anything and won but he choose to sit on 5K/5K and litterally not do anything, then suicide most of his army.

In terms of perspective, Maru's blunder was a much smaller mistake (unseigeing all his tanks at once) but cost him a lot more (he could very well have taken this GSL), wheras Has would have qualified for a cup and been knocked out straight away.

I guess it's debatable I guess which is the bigger throw
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24202 Posts
February 25 2017 15:34 GMT
#469
On February 25 2017 23:54 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 22:38 ParksonVN wrote:
On February 25 2017 21:49 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Very very weird season. T players trying their best not to win this GSL but this won't keep them from getting mines nerfed ^^

Rooting for soO from now on.


what are you talking about ? All the favorite Terrans are eliminated (only 1 advanced by TvT) and you are here, still complaining about wm ?

I don't think that's him complaining about widow mines as much as it is him saying Blizzard are gonna nerf them no matter how the Terrans would have done.

exactly this, but some people seem to be rather short-tempered here
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
February 25 2017 15:39 GMT
#470
On February 26 2017 00:00 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:43 Elentos wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung

But you said he was gonna win with positioning in spite of doom drops. Not that he's gonna win because of doom drops. And Maru going for the "Throw of the Century" award.

Throw of the century? Even though that Has game happened?


Even though Life was a person?

they took Life's personship!?

D:
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
February 25 2017 15:41 GMT
#471
On February 26 2017 00:39 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2017 00:00 stuchiu wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:43 Elentos wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung

But you said he was gonna win with positioning in spite of doom drops. Not that he's gonna win because of doom drops. And Maru going for the "Throw of the Century" award.

Throw of the century? Even though that Has game happened?


Even though Life was a person?

they took Life's personship!?

D:

Stuchiu left the body in a ditch somewhere in Korea.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15957 Posts
February 25 2017 15:43 GMT
#472
On February 26 2017 00:14 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2017 19:50 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:43 Elentos wrote:
On February 25 2017 19:39 imre wrote:
Hello at all those who told me Maru was gonna crush Ryung

But you said he was gonna win with positioning in spite of doom drops. Not that he's gonna win because of doom drops. And Maru going for the "Throw of the Century" award.

Throw of the century? Even though that Has game happened?


It terms of what actually happened in game. Has was a bigger throw, he could have done anything and won but he choose to sit on 5K/5K and litterally not do anything, then suicide most of his army.

In terms of perspective, Maru's blunder was a much smaller mistake (unseigeing all his tanks at once) but cost him a lot more (he could very well have taken this GSL), wheras Has would have qualified for a cup and been knocked out straight away.

I guess it's debatable I guess which is the bigger throw

the throw of the century still belongs to Dear.

Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 25 2017 15:45 GMT
#473
Life would have won a few korean tournaments most likely, but he would never have achieved the GOAT status because he had no health problems

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 25 2017 15:47 GMT
#474
Also Maru is still a god, he simply cannot win GSL. It's a curse
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
February 25 2017 15:49 GMT
#475
On February 26 2017 00:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Also Maru is still a god, he simply cannot win GSL. It's a curse

literally a puny god
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 25 2017 16:05 GMT
#476
On February 26 2017 00:49 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2017 00:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Also Maru is still a god, he simply cannot win GSL. It's a curse

literally a puny god

Dunno i think overall Maru's results are amazing tbh. Especially when we add proleague as well (we should)
His only failure really is that he couldn't win a GSL yet, but his results in GSL aren't bad by any means.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
February 25 2017 16:08 GMT
#477
On February 26 2017 01:05 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2017 00:49 Penev wrote:
On February 26 2017 00:47 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Also Maru is still a god, he simply cannot win GSL. It's a curse

literally a puny god

Dunno i think overall Maru's results are amazing tbh. Especially when we add proleague as well (we should)
His only failure really is that he couldn't win a GSL yet, but his results in GSL aren't bad by any means.

I actually meant literally :p

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he's a small dude
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 25 2017 16:10 GMT
#478
Oh yeah haha. My bad
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
February 25 2017 16:11 GMT
#479
its funny how many ppl are saying stuff like "most skilled era lul" but the f2 mashers are finally losing now
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 25 2017 16:23 GMT
#480
On February 26 2017 01:11 c0sm0naut wrote:
its funny how many ppl are saying stuff like "most skilled era lul" but the f2 mashers are finally losing now

Well "most skilled" is surely true. As in the total skill players have increases over time (a lot of it due to metagame development). Though if we talk about mechanical skill only i don't think that top players these days are necessarily better than top players three years ago. At least not by any meaningful margin. Like you have to practice certain things a lot to even manage to stay at the same mechanical lvl. I will use a BW example here because i watch a lot of JD's stream and iirc he even said that the muta micro simply isn't the same anymore. back in the day the zerg players trained that aspect of the game every single day for a few hours on custom maps. Now nobody does that, it's not on the same lvl anymore.
Point being: Mechanical skill doesn't necessarily increase over time when we are basically at the limit what humans can do anyway. No we won't see better marine splits in the future even though that AI showed it is theoretically possible.

Oh and what i personally mean when i question the concept of most skilled era is actually the lvl of competition in general. So many top talents retired over the years, everybody capable of beating top players with enough preparation, etc.
I am not even only talking about people like Parting, Rain, Soulkey, Life, Flash, Taeja. I am also talking about people like Jangbi, Effort, Last, Fantasy, etc. It's not comparable to the lvl of competition a few years ago.
Some people even think the competition was more fierce back when Mvp won his titles, i disagree though. It's comparable to now though all things considered imo.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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