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His ID is Neeblet, not Neeb
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12435 Posts
October 26 2016 20:14 GMT
#101
On October 27 2016 05:08 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 04:49 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 27 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:44 Nebuchad wrote:
It doesn't happen super often though. When there is a loss into win in the GSL group format, more often than not it's the favourite losing the first match and coming back to win, rather than the opposite.

It's not that rare though. Actually this season of GSL it happened in 5 out of 8 Ro32 groups, that was pretty silly.


I think you counted every reverse win, not just the ones where the favourite lost in the end. That happened twice in that case (unless Dream was viewed as a favourite over Ryung? I don't exactly remember)

Yes, I did count all of them.

Favorites are often a matter of opinion. Between RagnaroK and TaeJa, who was the favorite? Was it TaeJa who had just announced his retirement, or RagnaroK who we never really see much but we know has good ZvT? Also depending on how the first series looks, sometimes people don't stay the favorite I think. It's kinda ambiguous.

Man it sucks we have to wait another day for the games to begin.


Sure some matches are ambiguous but I think Stats is pretty clearly favored against Snute...
No will to live, no wish to die
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 26 2016 20:16 GMT
#102
Snute is going to TRASH Stats
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
October 26 2016 20:25 GMT
#103
On October 27 2016 05:14 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 05:08 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 04:49 Nebuchad wrote:
On October 27 2016 03:15 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 02:44 Nebuchad wrote:
It doesn't happen super often though. When there is a loss into win in the GSL group format, more often than not it's the favourite losing the first match and coming back to win, rather than the opposite.

It's not that rare though. Actually this season of GSL it happened in 5 out of 8 Ro32 groups, that was pretty silly.


I think you counted every reverse win, not just the ones where the favourite lost in the end. That happened twice in that case (unless Dream was viewed as a favourite over Ryung? I don't exactly remember)

Yes, I did count all of them.

Favorites are often a matter of opinion. Between RagnaroK and TaeJa, who was the favorite? Was it TaeJa who had just announced his retirement, or RagnaroK who we never really see much but we know has good ZvT? Also depending on how the first series looks, sometimes people don't stay the favorite I think. It's kinda ambiguous.

Man it sucks we have to wait another day for the games to begin.


Sure some matches are ambiguous but I think Stats is pretty clearly favored against Snute...

Well yeah there are some obvious ones. Although I'm not quite sure about Stats' PvZ, he seems to hate that match-up. A lot.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 26 2016 21:00 GMT
#104
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 26 2016 22:25 GMT
#105
On October 27 2016 06:00 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here

Plus predicting an upset is high risk high reward.
I even put my LB (I got out of the top 100 with ByuN poor performances in Kespa cup and cross finals) where my mouth is by voting for my predictions.

It will make the games even better haha.
WriterMaru
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 26 2016 22:39 GMT
#106
On October 27 2016 06:00 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here


Yeah but how can you really predict a bo3 to go one way then repeated and go the other way? Even if the players are 50/50 you'd "usually" favour whoever wins the first series
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 26 2016 22:44 GMT
#107
On October 27 2016 07:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:00 brickrd wrote:
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here


Yeah but how can you really predict a bo3 to go one way then repeated and go the other way? Even if the players are 50/50 you'd "usually" favour whoever wins the first series

the winner of the first series usually loses the rematch in GSL
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
October 26 2016 22:48 GMT
#108
On October 27 2016 07:44 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 07:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 06:00 brickrd wrote:
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here


Yeah but how can you really predict a bo3 to go one way then repeated and go the other way? Even if the players are 50/50 you'd "usually" favour whoever wins the first series

the winner of the first series usually loses the rematch in GSL

Unless they're substantially better. In that case the 2nd series is often less close than the first. The win into loss in the rematch I think is part psychological advantage (the guy who lost the first match comes off a win into the decider match while the other lost his last game) and part adjusting to the opponent. Sometimes the first time your builds just didn't work or his builds catch you off guard. And then when he tries again you know what to expect.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 26 2016 22:50 GMT
#109
On October 27 2016 07:39 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 06:00 brickrd wrote:
On October 27 2016 01:39 Fango wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:51 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 00:06 Fango wrote:
On October 26 2016 21:03 Poopi wrote:
Group A:
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 1-2 (P)Stats
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Stats
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)PtitDrogo
(Z)Snute 2-1 (P)Stats

(Z)Dark and (Z)Snute advance.

Group B:

(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience
(P)Zest 2-0 (Z)TRUE
(P)Zest 2-1 (P)Neeb
(P)Patience 2-1 (Z)TRUE
(P)Neeb 2-1 (P)Patience

(P)Zest and (P)Neeb advance.



Stats beats snute then snute beats stats? That would be a comeback and a half

Happens in gsl groups more often than you think?


It happens but it's not the kind of thing can you predict to happen lol
sure it is? o_O if players are evenly matched then it's likely to draw two series 1-1? not sure what your line of thought is here


Yeah but how can you really predict a bo3 to go one way then repeated and go the other way? Even if the players are 50/50 you'd "usually" favour whoever wins the first series


Maybe you think one player will do better with the knowledge of the games of the first series.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
October 26 2016 23:10 GMT
#110
such a horrible time, 12:30 EDT! Right in the middle of my work....

OH well time to keep the audio going and alt tab when my boss walks by....
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 26 2016 23:42 GMT
#111
On October 27 2016 08:10 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
such a horrible time, 12:30 EDT! Right in the middle of my work....

OH well time to keep the audio going and alt tab when my boss walks by....


Live in the UK and got real lucky with the times. Almost everything is between 6 and midnight lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 01:48:51
October 27 2016 01:36 GMT
#112
Anyone wanna sigbet vs all KR ro8 (TRUE counts as korean)?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 27 2016 01:46 GMT
#113
On October 27 2016 10:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone wanna sigbet on all KR ro8 (TRUE counts as korean)?


Ooh that's a tough one. I could totally see that happening, but I could also see that failing with potentially Snute, Nerchio, and Neeb getting out. It reminds me of a sigbet where someone bet that no foreigner would get out of the ro16 in KeSPA cup, and that was with much worse odds.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
October 27 2016 01:56 GMT
#114
On October 27 2016 10:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone wanna sigbet vs all KR ro8 (TRUE counts as korean)?

i think it happens
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2016 02:04 GMT
#115
On October 27 2016 10:36 Charoisaur wrote:
Anyone wanna sigbet vs all KR ro8 (TRUE counts as korean)?

No way, PtitDrogo is advancing for sure.
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
October 27 2016 02:27 GMT
#116
I have no idea how to show tweets here so maybe someone is going to teach me but you will find this interesting Poor Life
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#117
On October 27 2016 11:27 Nerchio wrote:
I have no idea how to show tweets here so maybe someone is going to teach me but you will find this interesting Poor Life

Just link it.

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TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2016 02:39 GMT
#118
rekt
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Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
October 27 2016 02:45 GMT
#119
On October 27 2016 11:37 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2016 11:27 Nerchio wrote:
I have no idea how to show tweets here so maybe someone is going to teach me but you will find this interesting Poor Life

Just link it.

https://twitter.com/Nerchio_SC2/status/791461772204965888

I was looking at the preview and it wasn't showing up there so I assumed it doesn't work this way
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 27 2016 02:59 GMT
#120
TL Calendar and the OP are off by 1 hour. is the calendar just for the start of the stream?
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