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EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-17 15:19:27
September 17 2016 15:15 GMT
#521
On September 18 2016 00:09 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 00:06 Alchemik wrote:
On September 18 2016 00:05 EatingBomber wrote:
I do think the ping, while technically equal for both sides, favours the Zerg in a ZvT due to the more micro-intensive nature of modern Terran play

is this the excuse this time?


I think the only possible excuse is Maru isn't used to playing with Ping. Still, people act like Foreigners are tiers below top Koreans and minor ping or not, Maru got slapped hard which shouildn't have happened if a foreigner weren't right near their tier. Also, two top terrans, one of which is a god in all matchups and used to ping got slapped pretty hard.

It's not an excuse. Consider the number of things Terrans are (brutally) punished for in a battle if they carry these out late/not at all:

Burrowing Widow Mines
Sieging Liberators
Ghost Snipe(especially)
Tank pickup with Medivac
Splitting against Fungal/Banelings
Infantry pickup with Medivac

For Zerg, I can only think of 3: splitting against Widow Mines and failing to use Corrosive Biles on Tanks/Liberators and not using Fungal Growth before Infestors die. But when the vast majority of your army (Zerglings, Banelings, Ultralisks, Corruptors) are simply a-move units, the burden of micro is much lower than Terran's. Hence ping is an extremely important issue, not just for all races but for Terran especially
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 17 2016 15:16 GMT
#522
Creator's gonna get multi-pronged
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 17 2016 15:17 GMT
#523
All this talk about lag has been silly for 6 years already. You will not solve anything. If you aren´t convinced, just wait for Nerchio to win Kespa Cup and Blizzcon
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 17 2016 15:17 GMT
#524
On September 18 2016 00:17 opisska wrote:
All this talk about lag has been silly for 6 years already. You will not solve anything. If you aren´t convinced, just wait for Nerchio to win Kespa Cup and Blizzcon

Don't hold your breath.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 17 2016 15:17 GMT
#525
Maru and ByuN were touched by JYP
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 17 2016 15:18 GMT
#526
Are people really trying to make excuses for Nerchio winning? Top tier foreigners taking maps off of top tier Koreans isn't that shocking. Snute beat the reigning GSL and SSL champs back to back at some IEM didn't he? No reason why Nerchio couldn't do it BO1's either.
SKN1995
Profile Joined September 2016
Japan204 Posts
September 17 2016 15:18 GMT
#527
For someone who is so absurdly sloppy (losing 3 lings to delayed reaper, poor creep spread, poor injects) Nerchio must be doing some things right XD

Wish he would stop being so lazy
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#528
I think those storms did more damage to his own zealots than nerchio's army.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#529
On September 18 2016 00:17 Ej_ wrote:
Maru and ByuN were touched by JYP

finally some one talking sense
I Protoss winner, could it be?
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#530
On September 18 2016 00:17 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 00:17 opisska wrote:
All this talk about lag has been silly for 6 years already. You will not solve anything. If you aren´t convinced, just wait for Nerchio to win Kespa Cup and Blizzcon

Don't hold your breath.


Don't worry, I am fully aware of the oxygen needs of a human being
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#531
ByuN has named Nerchio as one of the best zergs before
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#532
this looks like BW
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 17 2016 15:19 GMT
#533
On September 18 2016 00:18 Phredxor wrote:
Are people really trying to make excuses for Nerchio winning? Top tier foreigners taking maps off of top tier Koreans isn't that shocking. Snute beat the reigning GSL and SSL champs back to back at some IEM didn't he? No reason why Nerchio couldn't do it BO1's either.

Any foreign win must be due to unfortunate circumstances from the korean player /s
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Biscuittzz
Profile Joined July 2016
155 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#534
On September 18 2016 00:09 Parrek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 00:06 Alchemik wrote:
On September 18 2016 00:05 EatingBomber wrote:
I do think the ping, while technically equal for both sides, favours the Zerg in a ZvT due to the more micro-intensive nature of modern Terran play

is this the excuse this time?


I think the only possible excuse is Maru isn't used to playing with Ping. Still, people act like Foreigners are tiers below top Koreans and minor ping or not, Maru got slapped hard which shouildn't have happened if a foreigner weren't right near their tier. Also, two top terrans, one of which is a god in all matchups and used to ping got slapped pretty hard.


Or that Maru and Byun both played exactly into his style. Most likely wouldn't happen again. Foreigners ARE tiers below Koreans, with the exception possibly of Nerchio which we knew anyway. Don't understand how you're still harping on about this everywhere when we've had nothing to prove otherwise.

Amazing how a Bo1 win for Nerchio proves Koreans aren't that godly, yet Neeb getting trashed in a Bo1 means nothing. Double standards.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#535
Comes back to tl after a few months, see the same boring arguments. Fun times. At least the games are decent.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#536
On September 18 2016 00:18 Phredxor wrote:
Are people really trying to make excuses for Nerchio winning? Top tier foreigners taking maps off of top tier Koreans isn't that shocking. Snute beat the reigning GSL and SSL champs back to back at some IEM didn't he? No reason why Nerchio couldn't do it BO1's either.

Stop trying to make sense, clearly the koreans were trolling and foreigners all suck
BUNNYYYYYYYYY https://i.imgur.com/BiCF577.png
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#537
7 range hydras soon.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#538
On September 18 2016 00:19 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 00:17 royalroadweed wrote:
On September 18 2016 00:17 opisska wrote:
All this talk about lag has been silly for 6 years already. You will not solve anything. If you aren´t convinced, just wait for Nerchio to win Kespa Cup and Blizzcon

Don't hold your breath.


Don't worry, I am fully aware of the oxygen needs of a human being


I hope you had a good hard look at the way you treat your fellow TLers whilst you were banned. Now you can be a model citizen.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#539
On September 18 2016 00:06 killerm12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2016 00:03 D-light wrote:
On September 18 2016 00:00 opisska wrote:
Next year, WCS will be region locked to everything minus Poland

Just because Nerchio got lucky doesn't mean Poland has any other player who is decent agains Koreans sometimes.


sarcasm - do you know it?

Yes, but him trying to say Poland as a whole was beyond region lock or something instead of Nerchio made too little sense even as a joke.
why even
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 17 2016 15:20 GMT
#540
hahahaha that spine forrest
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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