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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
March 04 2016 14:23 GMT
#441
On March 04 2016 23:09 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:08 10bulgares wrote:
At this stage, I'm surprised not to see more balance whine from protoss players. Or maybe I missed it?

Or is it the mods on TL who are less tolerant?

For 5 months they are ignoring PvZ, people already resigned probably. Also Classic could have played better.



Classic, who was not at his top, was one bad wall away from defeating Solar, an absolute muderer of Protosses, his game one for instance was really encouraging for late game PvZ.

If you really look at last weeks of korean scene you can see the meta evolving and see a trend where Protosses are defeating more and more Zergs.

On the other hand, Classic really looked unable to deal with liberators...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 04 2016 14:31 GMT
#442
On March 04 2016 23:23 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:08 10bulgares wrote:
At this stage, I'm surprised not to see more balance whine from protoss players. Or maybe I missed it?

Or is it the mods on TL who are less tolerant?

For 5 months they are ignoring PvZ, people already resigned probably. Also Classic could have played better.



Classic, who was not at his top, was one bad wall away from defeating Solar, an absolute muderer of Protosses, his game one for instance was really encouraging for late game PvZ.

If you really look at last weeks of korean scene you can see the meta evolving and see a trend where Protosses are defeating more and more Zergs.

On the other hand, Classic really looked unable to deal with liberators...

And those weren't liberators with the range upgrade, so it was in due part incompetence.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
March 04 2016 14:32 GMT
#443
Nice work, Speed!

KT BEST KT
don't wall off against random
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 14:37:18
March 04 2016 14:36 GMT
#444
On March 04 2016 23:31 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 23:23 Gwavajuice wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:09 deacon.frost wrote:
On March 04 2016 23:08 10bulgares wrote:
At this stage, I'm surprised not to see more balance whine from protoss players. Or maybe I missed it?

Or is it the mods on TL who are less tolerant?

For 5 months they are ignoring PvZ, people already resigned probably. Also Classic could have played better.



Classic, who was not at his top, was one bad wall away from defeating Solar, an absolute muderer of Protosses, his game one for instance was really encouraging for late game PvZ.

If you really look at last weeks of korean scene you can see the meta evolving and see a trend where Protosses are defeating more and more Zergs.

On the other hand, Classic really looked unable to deal with liberators...

And those weren't liberators with the range upgrade, so it was in due part incompetence.

With that positioning he needed another answer than ground army. It's actually hilarious if you read that Avilo thread where he claims Protoss has good GtA.

Speed used liberators very well and he denied ground response. He played the map the best possible way, but showed how OP liberators can be when used properly on a map that allows such play.

And don't forget that accidental move of Phoenixes (that doom drop)

All in all, Speed played very well, Classic had bad luck and wasn't playing that well.

Edit> + ghosts.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 04 2016 14:45 GMT
#445
Honestly SpeeD overlapped his liberators far too much a bunch of times. And if Classic doesn't fight in the middle of the map for no reason in game 2, he probably wins 2-0.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 04 2016 15:12 GMT
#446
On March 04 2016 23:45 Elentos wrote:
Honestly SpeeD overlapped his liberators far too much a bunch of times. And if Classic doesn't fight in the middle of the map for no reason in game 2, he probably wins 2-0.

Liberators covered the whole path to attack, in a way Speed created "force fields" in that place. And it worked
(but yeah, that random attack in the middle of the map will haunt him)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
elwood.sc2
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany35 Posts
March 04 2016 15:15 GMT
#447
Yeah Speeeeeed!!!!
And Classic with the Double reversibel sweep. That hurts a lot!! I think Patience was still in his head from the SSL.
sOs - Dear - Maru - Life - Soulkey ### "The void claims its own."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 04 2016 15:20 GMT
#448
Damn Classic very disappointing oveverall.
Hard time for my liquibets
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
March 04 2016 16:49 GMT
#449
On March 04 2016 23:08 10bulgares wrote:
At this stage, I'm surprised not to see more balance whine from protoss players. Or maybe I missed it?

Or is it the mods on TL who are less tolerant?


It's GSL. We do what anyone else would do. Blame Shine
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 17:54:56
March 04 2016 17:38 GMT
#450
I watched the games this morning, amazing SC2 day ! SpeeD really surprised me, it's cool to see some new blood even if it's at the expense of one of my favorite Protosses ever, Classic. But I think he still needs to find his rythm in LotV, he made a lot of mistakes and overall didn't deserve to advance even if he had a great opportunity on Orbital.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 17:45:34
March 04 2016 17:45 GMT
#451
On March 05 2016 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I watched the games this morning, amazing SC2 day ! SpeeD really surprised me, it's cool to see some new blood even if it's at the expense of one of my favorites Protosses ever, Classic. But I think he still needs to find his rythm in LotV, he made a lot of mistakes and overall didn't deserve to advance even if he had a great opportunity on Orbital.

The interesting thing about SpeeD is that he was a B-teamer for years on Samsung and SKT and that he'd actually already retired a while ago. And a few months after coming back, KT picked him up, and now in LotV he's finally getting somewhere. It's a cool story.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 17:57:21
March 04 2016 17:48 GMT
#452
Solar can potentially win both S2SL and GSL!!!!!!!! Gogogo!!!!!
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 17:59:10
March 04 2016 17:55 GMT
#453
On March 05 2016 02:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I watched the games this morning, amazing SC2 day ! SpeeD really surprised me, it's cool to see some new blood even if it's at the expense of one of my favorites Protosses ever, Classic. But I think he still needs to find his rythm in LotV, he made a lot of mistakes and overall didn't deserve to advance even if he had a great opportunity on Orbital.

The interesting thing about SpeeD is that he was a B-teamer for years on Samsung and SKT and that he'd actually already retired a while ago. And a few months after coming back, KT picked him up, and now in LotV he's finally getting somewhere. It's a cool story.

yeah a lot of cool stories in fact with him, Byun, Taeja, HerO... Not enough to counter act all the disbandings and retirements, but that's some light.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 04 2016 19:07 GMT
#454
Fuck yeah Speed! Picked the liquibets right too!
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
March 04 2016 19:12 GMT
#455
On March 05 2016 04:07 Phredxor wrote:
Fuck yeah Speed! Picked the liquibets right too!

10/10 solid bias.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shankapotamus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States428 Posts
March 04 2016 20:36 GMT
#456
WOW! I went to sleep because I thought SpeeD was donezo, what a pleasant surprise to wake up to!!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 04 2016 20:44 GMT
#457
I'd say this is the first time I've actually laughed so hard I cried since the "one fish, two fish, red fish, blue TANK" moment. Tastosis absolutely killed it.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
March 05 2016 01:43 GMT
#458
Just saw the SpeeD vs Classic series. That G3 was siiick.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17671 Posts
March 05 2016 19:47 GMT
#459
Damn, Speed needs a fanclub! First new rookie in Code S ro16 in how long?
"Expert" mods4ever.com
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
March 05 2016 22:32 GMT
#460
On March 05 2016 02:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 02:38 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I watched the games this morning, amazing SC2 day ! SpeeD really surprised me, it's cool to see some new blood even if it's at the expense of one of my favorites Protosses ever, Classic. But I think he still needs to find his rythm in LotV, he made a lot of mistakes and overall didn't deserve to advance even if he had a great opportunity on Orbital.

The interesting thing about SpeeD is that he was a B-teamer for years on Samsung and SKT and that he'd actually already retired a while ago. And a few months after coming back, KT picked him up, and now in LotV he's finally getting somewhere. It's a cool story.


I had no clue! That's really interesting! Happy for SpeeD. I love Classic but he's won enough. Give ol' Rudy the underdog a chance.
why?
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