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Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
June 01 2015 12:41 GMT
#321
On June 01 2015 21:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 21:34 Alchemik wrote:
On June 01 2015 21:34 bo1b wrote:
urgh, why wont zergs learn to roach hydra infestor viper corrupter -> mass muta switch when they have enough apm

corrupter/queen has never worked vs mass air toss

I'm sure these best players in the world never tried it, go tell them

They have tried it lol, jaedong tore shit up for months in 2013 with it before inexplicably failing with swarmhost style plays, drg got super good at it etc.

Did u miss my sarcasm sign sheldon
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
June 01 2015 12:42 GMT
#322
Oh hey Bomber going for the same build as every time.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 01 2015 12:42 GMT
#323
On June 01 2015 21:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Oh by the way, I had a signature bet going with Cricketer for DRG vs HerO. You may all look forward to his new signature.

Suggestions?

"Only philandering filth play protoss, the better player lost today"
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
June 01 2015 12:42 GMT
#324
On June 01 2015 21:29 EnPo wrote:
Everyone hating on micro denying spells like FF and Fungal
> someone has the ability to deny effects of micro-denial
> "YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MICRO"
> wat


I feel that way of looking at it is too simple. I believe people don't like it when a player can do literally everything right, but the outcome isn't in their hands.

Asymmetry is cool, but if DRG messes up one engagement he's dead, but when HerO messes up an engagement he just recalls. This would be fair if HerO's army would be harder to use than DRG's, but it isn't, as that is about equal. Recall in general isn't frowned upon, as it opens up tactical possibilities, but in this specific situation it is understandable why it would annoy people. The same goes for FF and Fungal. In many cases they're fair, but in specific situations they can be used in such a way that makes an opponent (nearly) powerless to do anything, and lose the game instantly.
Cute
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 01 2015 12:43 GMT
#325
On June 01 2015 21:42 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 21:29 EnPo wrote:
Everyone hating on micro denying spells like FF and Fungal
> someone has the ability to deny effects of micro-denial
> "YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MICRO"
> wat


I feel that way of looking at it is too simple. I believe people don't like it when a player can do literally everything right, but the outcome isn't in their hands.

Asymmetry is cool, but if DRG messes up one engagement he's dead, but when HerO messes up an engagement he just recalls. This would be fair if HerO's army would be harder to use than DRG's, but it isn't, as that is about equal. Recall in general isn't frowned upon, as it opens up tactical possibilities, but in this specific situation it is understandable why it would annoy people. The same goes for FF and Fungal. In many cases they're fair, but in specific situations they can be used in such a way that makes an opponent (nearly) powerless to do anything, and lose the game instantly.

Phoenix voidray tempest is hard to use?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
June 01 2015 12:44 GMT
#326
Why is Bomber hiding a mine behind the cyber core? -.-
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46006 Posts
June 01 2015 12:44 GMT
#327
gogo Bomber! So close to getting those probes with the hellions x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
June 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#328
That wasn't luck that was pure skill.. these casters...
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#329
On June 01 2015 21:42 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 21:29 EnPo wrote:
Everyone hating on micro denying spells like FF and Fungal
> someone has the ability to deny effects of micro-denial
> "YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MICRO"
> wat


I feel that way of looking at it is too simple. I believe people don't like it when a player can do literally everything right, but the outcome isn't in their hands.

Asymmetry is cool, but if DRG messes up one engagement he's dead, but when HerO messes up an engagement he just recalls. This would be fair if HerO's army would be harder to use than DRG's, but it isn't, as that is about equal. Recall in general isn't frowned upon, as it opens up tactical possibilities, but in this specific situation it is understandable why it would annoy people. The same goes for FF and Fungal. In many cases they're fair, but in specific situations they can be used in such a way that makes an opponent (nearly) powerless to do anything, and lose the game instantly.

The old recall was cool. You couldn't use it while you have MSC/MS with you

Go Bomber, save my FPL!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#330
That observer micro
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#331
haha, score one for Moonglade
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28528 Posts
June 01 2015 12:45 GMT
#332
observer, probe and zealot?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
June 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#333
On June 01 2015 21:43 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 21:42 Neemi wrote:
On June 01 2015 21:29 EnPo wrote:
Everyone hating on micro denying spells like FF and Fungal
> someone has the ability to deny effects of micro-denial
> "YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MICRO"
> wat


I feel that way of looking at it is too simple. I believe people don't like it when a player can do literally everything right, but the outcome isn't in their hands.

Asymmetry is cool, but if DRG messes up one engagement he's dead, but when HerO messes up an engagement he just recalls. This would be fair if HerO's army would be harder to use than DRG's, but it isn't, as that is about equal. Recall in general isn't frowned upon, as it opens up tactical possibilities, but in this specific situation it is understandable why it would annoy people. The same goes for FF and Fungal. In many cases they're fair, but in specific situations they can be used in such a way that makes an opponent (nearly) powerless to do anything, and lose the game instantly.

Phoenix voidray tempest is hard to use?


I honestly wouldn't know because I don't often play Protoss, so I wanted to be fair and assume equality in that regard for the sake of the overarching point I was trying to make.
Cute
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
June 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#334
Wow this aggression is relentless lol
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#335
The classic observer death. Well, when I do it, it's OK, but when Seed does it... man, you are supposed to be a pro! (joking)
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-01 12:47:52
June 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#336
Bomber spots dark shrine twice, 0 turrets.

jjakji doesn't spot dark shrine, perfect turret positions.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9174 Posts
June 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#337
Builds 1 dt, sits it on wrong third. No turret at natural lol
Yhamm is the god of predictions
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46006 Posts
June 01 2015 12:47 GMT
#338
Nice snipe on the robo there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
June 01 2015 12:47 GMT
#339
Theres a lot resting on this match, bomber wants some new shoes, and seed wants some more honey
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55579 Posts
June 01 2015 12:48 GMT
#340
How do you not have concussive shells by the 15 minute mark in TvP Bomber? -.-
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
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