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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 30 2015 19:49 GMT
#581
On May 01 2015 03:57 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 03:56 Deathstar wrote:
Morrow you fuck win this

You're making it sounds like he is playing Snute or something


You see why I was concerned! Come on Morrow you fuck!
rip passion
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 19:50:03
April 30 2015 19:49 GMT
#582
Hi guys, GM Zerg here. Me and my GM Terran buddy are both in agreement that MorroW's mech play is...bizarrely bad. Those are the two best maps for mech in the entire pool and he just doesn't really know what he's doing. He's not making the unbeatable late game air army. He's just making a bunch of thor/viking and is stopping at like 6-8 ravens maximum. If this was GoOdy or Happy or whoever, this would be a different story, despite Petraeus' AMAZING play.

Also in G1 he didn't take advantage of any of the timing windows whilst Petraeus was tech switching.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 30 2015 19:49 GMT
#583
On May 01 2015 04:48 Mozdk wrote:
Enjoyable to watch even though I never play the matchup. Petraeus seems to have the right idea. And it seems fucking hard to do. It's like watching Scarlett multitasking vs Avilo in the qualifiers.

Congratulations for the Scout!

Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
April 30 2015 19:49 GMT
#584
On May 01 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:47 Lorning wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 TheDwf wrote:
Reading this thread while actually watching what happens in the game is absolutely fascinating

LR threads are like.. the twitch chats of SC2, it's amazing lol

Wow, I thought we were better than that

we are, don't listen to the guy who only comes to whine about mech

HEY im here cus patrenus is a cool chap
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#585
On May 01 2015 04:47 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Maybe Thors should move at Hellion speed in order to deal with the imba Zerg late game?

speedling speed you mean. balance means both sides should have the same possibilities
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States281 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#586
I think banshee should have a better chance dealing against new swarm host when you controlling the air
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#587
On May 01 2015 04:48 HellHound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:47 Musicus wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:44 Musicus wrote:
Man, watching Petraeus play is really motivating as a zerg.

Shows you don't know how many ladder games he plays a week.


How is that? I know he plays a lot more than most, pretty much Happy and Kas level, probably more these days. Still don't see the point though :/.

I get tired just from thinking about it :D


Ahhh, haha yeah I could never play that much, but it's still cool to see what you can pull of if you do play that much.

Still hoping for a reverse sweep now, I just like Morrow more .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#588
WIN ONE GAME WITH MECH MORROW COOOOME ON!
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
polpot
Profile Joined April 2012
3002 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#589
On May 01 2015 04:49 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hi guys, GM Zerg here. Me and my GM Terran buddy are both in agreement that MorroW's mech play is...bizarrely bad. Those are the two best maps for mech in the entire pool and he just doesn't really know what he's doing. He's not making the unbeatable late game air army. He's just making a bunch of thor/viking and is stopping at like 6-8 ravens maximum. If this was GoOdy or Happy or whoever, this would be a different story, despite Petraeus' AMAZING play.

Also in G1 he didn't take advantage of any of the timing windows whilst Petraeus was tech switching.

I have to agree, his siege tank number is really too low , he had like 8/9 siege tanks when he was max
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2015 19:50 GMT
#590
On May 01 2015 04:50 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:48 HellHound wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Musicus wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:44 Musicus wrote:
Man, watching Petraeus play is really motivating as a zerg.

Shows you don't know how many ladder games he plays a week.


How is that? I know he plays a lot more than most, pretty much Happy and Kas level, probably more these days. Still don't see the point though :/.

I get tired just from thinking about it :D


Ahhh, haha yeah I could never play that much, but it's still cool to see what you can pull of if you do play that much.

Still hoping for a reverse sweep now, I just like Morrow more .

channel with me for triple 2rax
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#591
On May 01 2015 04:49 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:48 Mozdk wrote:
Enjoyable to watch even though I never play the matchup. Petraeus seems to have the right idea. And it seems fucking hard to do. It's like watching Scarlett multitasking vs Avilo in the qualifiers.

Congratulations for the Scout!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKpZpiota8w


I generally feel more like an arbiter
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16021 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#592
Seriously what the hell are you supposed to do against the new swarmhosts? After I got destroyed by them on ladder i felt mech won't be viable anymore and it seems like at pro level it isn't beatable either.
Great job DK, removing playstyles from the game, that surely adds more variety to the game.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#593
On May 01 2015 04:49 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Lorning wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 TheDwf wrote:
Reading this thread while actually watching what happens in the game is absolutely fascinating

LR threads are like.. the twitch chats of SC2, it's amazing lol

Wow, I thought we were better than that

we are, don't listen to the guy who only comes to whine about mech

HEY im here cus patrenus is a cool chap

Why does everyone call him patrenus
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Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#594
On May 01 2015 04:44 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:44 Luolis wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:42 Aocowns wrote:
Now consider the fact that morrow hasnt been relevant since reapers were imba, and petraeus has probably been practicing solely against mech for what, 2 weeks now?

Just stop. :D

I REFUSE, I CONTAIN MORE SALT THAN THE DEAD SEA


Don Juan Pond salt confirmed
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#595
Map is new, I don't think we'll see many people playing turtle mech on it in the future, it's already hard has hell to cover all attack angles with bio, it's hopeless with mech imho.

People try it anyway cause they think mech is easy with nerfed SH, but maps stillplay the key role for "mechability"
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#596
On May 01 2015 04:51 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:49 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:48 Ej_ wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Lorning wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Aocowns wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 TheDwf wrote:
Reading this thread while actually watching what happens in the game is absolutely fascinating

LR threads are like.. the twitch chats of SC2, it's amazing lol

Wow, I thought we were better than that

we are, don't listen to the guy who only comes to whine about mech

HEY im here cus patrenus is a cool chap

Why does everyone call him patrenus

you mean Platypus, the New Zealand Zerg?
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 30 2015 19:51 GMT
#597
On May 01 2015 04:50 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:50 Musicus wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:48 HellHound wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:47 Musicus wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:45 HellHound wrote:
On May 01 2015 04:44 Musicus wrote:
Man, watching Petraeus play is really motivating as a zerg.

Shows you don't know how many ladder games he plays a week.


How is that? I know he plays a lot more than most, pretty much Happy and Kas level, probably more these days. Still don't see the point though :/.

I get tired just from thinking about it :D


Ahhh, haha yeah I could never play that much, but it's still cool to see what you can pull of if you do play that much.

Still hoping for a reverse sweep now, I just like Morrow more .

channel with me for triple 2rax


\o/ I'm channeling!!!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
April 30 2015 19:52 GMT
#598
On May 01 2015 04:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Seriously what the hell are you supposed to do against the new swarmhosts? After I got destroyed by them on ladder i felt mech won't be viable anymore and it seems like at pro level it isn't beatable either.
Great job DK, removing playstyles from the game, that surely adds more variety to the game.

Don't let them get there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

no but honestly, nothing serious should be taken away from this series when it comes to balance i think
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
April 30 2015 19:52 GMT
#599
On May 01 2015 04:49 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hi guys, GM Zerg here. Me and my GM Terran buddy are both in agreement that MorroW's mech play is...bizarrely bad. Those are the two best maps for mech in the entire pool and he just doesn't really know what he's doing. He's not making the unbeatable late game air army. He's just making a bunch of thor/viking and is stopping at like 6-8 ravens maximum. If this was GoOdy or Happy or whoever, this would be a different story, despite Petraeus' AMAZING play.

Also in G1 he didn't take advantage of any of the timing windows whilst Petraeus was tech switching.


Well, Goody is a bad example because I don`t think he would handle the late game harrasment very well but I agree about your assesment on Morrows TvZ. It looks like he plays very solid before his army maxes out but afterwards he has no real plan.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 19:54:07
April 30 2015 19:53 GMT
#600
On May 01 2015 04:51 Charoisaur wrote:
Seriously what the hell are you supposed to do against the new swarmhosts? After I got destroyed by them on ladder i felt mech won't be viable anymore and it seems like at pro level it isn't beatable either.
Great job DK, removing playstyles from the game, that surely adds more variety to the game.

From my experience the best way to deal with the new swarmhosts is to attack and abuse the long locust cooldown. Or just turtle until you have the unbeatable death army. From there it's just a matter of not getting your whole army fungalled.

On May 01 2015 04:52 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2015 04:49 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Hi guys, GM Zerg here. Me and my GM Terran buddy are both in agreement that MorroW's mech play is...bizarrely bad. Those are the two best maps for mech in the entire pool and he just doesn't really know what he's doing. He's not making the unbeatable late game air army. He's just making a bunch of thor/viking and is stopping at like 6-8 ravens maximum. If this was GoOdy or Happy or whoever, this would be a different story, despite Petraeus' AMAZING play.

Also in G1 he didn't take advantage of any of the timing windows whilst Petraeus was tech switching.


Well, Goody is a bad example because I don`t think he would handle the late game harrasment very well but I agree about your assesment on Morrows TvZ. It looks like he plays very solid before his army maxes out but afterwards he has no real plan.


Yeah, MorroW's play is fine early on. He got ahead in G2 after holding the roach stuff easily, set up a beautiful spread with tanks, picked off a couple of Pet's bases...and then he just kinda doesn't do anything.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
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