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[WCS] EU Challenger - Day 2 Season 2 2015 - Page 17

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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 29 2015 17:15 GMT
#321
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?
Wat
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
April 29 2015 17:15 GMT
#322
On April 30 2015 02:12 Ej_ wrote:
remember that time in early 2013 when MaNa was destroying ATC because every Terran would lose to his 6min proxy oracle?

Fucking Grubby going proxy oracle on Daybreak against LucifroN during HotS European launch.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 29 2015 17:15 GMT
#323
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?

You do it if you get ebay blocked and don't want to 1-base all-in?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 29 2015 17:15 GMT
#324
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?

FWIW, MaNa was going to take the pocket expansion, but it was blocked by an ebay
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 29 2015 17:16 GMT
#325
On April 30 2015 02:15 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:12 Ej_ wrote:
remember that time in early 2013 when MaNa was destroying ATC because every Terran would lose to his 6min proxy oracle?

Fucking Grubby going proxy oracle on Daybreak against LucifroN during HotS European launch.

now they are both playing HotS as well!
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 29 2015 17:16 GMT
#326
Ah alright I missed the ramp up phase having to answer emails
Wat
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 29 2015 17:16 GMT
#327
Wtf elazer...
rip passion
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#328
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
April 29 2015 17:18 GMT
#329
The Protoss killing floor so far. Please MaNa, you're worth better than that.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-29 17:19:16
April 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#330
Poll: Recommend MaNa vs HeRoMaRinE Game 1?

★★★- Good game (3)
 
50%

★- Do not see this game no matter what (2)
 
33%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (1)
 
17%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (0)
 
0%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: Recommend MaNa vs HeRoMaRinE Game 1?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season

https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
April 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#331
Rekt .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#332
On April 30 2015 02:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.

That's the Liquid Zerg meta of taking the front base first for creep spread and then forgetting the pocket expo.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 29 2015 17:19 GMT
#333
Maybe it will be like last season. 2-0 HeRoMaRinE into 3-2 MaNa.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
April 29 2015 17:20 GMT
#334
Liquid lost a game, instant tech issues. #liquidadvantage
Neosteel Enthusiast
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
April 29 2015 17:21 GMT
#335
On April 30 2015 02:20 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Liquid lost a game, instant tech issues. #liquidadvantage


very very suspicious indeed
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
April 29 2015 17:21 GMT
#336
On April 30 2015 02:19 Boucot wrote:
Maybe it will be like last season. 2-0 HeRoMaRinE into 3-2 MaNa.

We need a little diversity, how about 2-0 Heromarine into 3-0 Heromarine this time?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 29 2015 17:21 GMT
#337
On April 30 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.

That's the Liquid Zerg meta of taking the front base first for creep spread and then forgetting the pocket expo.


I assumed it was more of "why take this guaranteed base when I can take all the others" and then if he needs it to go and take it
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 29 2015 17:23 GMT
#338
On April 30 2015 02:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.

That's the Liquid Zerg meta of taking the front base first for creep spread and then forgetting the pocket expo.


I assumed it was more of "why take this guaranteed base when I can take all the others" and then if he needs it to go and take it

Yeah, that's the real point, take a bunch of other bases and then have a safe expand later. But Snute actually legit forgot his pocket natural in WCS vs Showtime last season. In a 45 minute game.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
April 29 2015 17:26 GMT
#339
On April 30 2015 02:23 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.

That's the Liquid Zerg meta of taking the front base first for creep spread and then forgetting the pocket expo.


I assumed it was more of "why take this guaranteed base when I can take all the others" and then if he needs it to go and take it

Yeah, that's the real point, take a bunch of other bases and then have a safe expand later. But Snute actually legit forgot his pocket natural in WCS vs Showtime last season. In a 45 minute game.


Why I assumed Protoss were digging it in TvP is it can be sometimes hard to take your third since you need to walk down a small ramp and Terran can fairly easily contain the Protoss on 2 bases. At least thats what I do every game Vanni.
Wat
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55593 Posts
April 29 2015 17:27 GMT
#340
On April 30 2015 02:26 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2015 02:23 Elentos wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:21 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:19 Elentos wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:18 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On April 30 2015 02:15 Tenks wrote:
Is taking the front base the new standard in TvP on Vanni? I've seen it a ton lately and feels like it would just die to a stim timing. Do you only do it if you smell mine drop?



Not TvP but last challenger day I'm pretty sure Ret never took his pocket base. I haven't seen enough to see if that's meta or not but it was rather cool.

That's the Liquid Zerg meta of taking the front base first for creep spread and then forgetting the pocket expo.


I assumed it was more of "why take this guaranteed base when I can take all the others" and then if he needs it to go and take it

Yeah, that's the real point, take a bunch of other bases and then have a safe expand later. But Snute actually legit forgot his pocket natural in WCS vs Showtime last season. In a 45 minute game.


Why I assumed Protoss were digging it in TvP is it can be sometimes hard to take your third since you need to walk down a small ramp and Terran can fairly easily contain the Protoss on 2 bases. At least thats what I do every game Vanni.

It was just because of an ebay block tho. And keep in mind that the pocket natural is anything but safe vs Terran.
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