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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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On November 17 2014 07:09 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:07 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2014 07:05 royalroadweed wrote:On November 17 2014 07:04 TheDwf wrote:On November 17 2014 06:57 dazed25 wrote:On November 17 2014 06:50 Big J wrote:On November 17 2014 06:45 dazed25 wrote:On November 17 2014 06:40 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 06:31 redviper wrote:On November 17 2014 06:20 Big J wrote:
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Yeah, just another scrub like soO. soO is considered superior to Flash because he has gotten to the finals of the GSL 4 times. And even then he doesn't get as much respect as he should for that. Flash hasn't ever gotten to a GSL final, and has only won one foreign tournament. And yet people vote to see him in Hotsix cup. It just seems like he is skating on his past accomplishments and his fans are just mobbing the polls. Recent games: Flash 3-0 TaeJa Flash 2-0 Losira Flash 2-1 First Flash 3-1 Zest Flash 3-1 TaeJa Flash 2-0 Solar Recent hiccups: Flash 0-3 herO[jOin] Flash 1-2 DongRaeGu Flash 1-2 soO I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to call you on this. Flash is consistently placing high and occasionally demolishing some of the best players in the world. He is definitely not just skating on past accomplishments. herO and soO were the only ones that outclassed him and apparently he was sick during the series with herO. The hype can get too much because of his BW accomplishments but it's stupid to deny that he is finally a top player in SC2. I'm not sure if he has improved a lot since the beginning of 2013 to be honest. (relative to others of course; everyone is getting better in absolutes) He has been a GSL top16 player all along. Like all the top16 GSL players he is a favorite when getting into a smaller tournament with either many players much below his level or just the tournament being small enough that you can just win based on a good daily form. Backing away from why he isn't the best player in the world, he is one of the best players in the world, capable of beating everybody and favored against most. I don't think there has been a unanimous best player in the world for a while in SC2. At least not since MvP in WOL and Life and Innovation for a short period. The closest you can have in terms of consistency is soO but he isn't able to win in the finals  . I feel Rain, Flash, Innovation, Taeja, soO, Life and Zest are all in the top tier at the moment but are capable of dropping games in certain matchups. I think Flash currently has the best TvT, one of the best late-game TvPs, and finally an improving TvZ. I'm hoping this is just the start of Flash in SC2, and he gets some more tournament results in the next year. Flash has the best mech TvT/TvZ Bogus has the best bio TvZ TaeJa has the best TvP Best bio TvT? Can't tell, not enough data and too volatile (when it comes to Marines/Tanks mirrors). At one point I would have said taeja but tough loses to polt, and flash have changed that.
Yeah, it's unclear between TaeJa, MMA, Bomber, Polt (at least tactically), Maru, and perhaps Cure/TY
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On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/E8EImqK.png)
Sure.
It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God in God's moment of triumph. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it.
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Austria24422 Posts
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On November 17 2014 07:23 stuchiu wrote:
no ups
Such a pity, the advantage of quick EB builds in that kind of situation is that you can have +1 attack and subsequently 1/1 quite fast
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On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it.
Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they look bad and are impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike.
And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..."
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On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..."
It's a vulture
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On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture
he means your icon I think ^^
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On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture
Good, best unit in SC ever.
In that case... I prefer Terran mostly because I find it's mechanics and units way better for a strategy game. But hey, it's lame to disregard someone's logical argument about something because you think the person is racially biased from their icon...
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On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture
I feel like not knowing what a vulture is might be a sacrilige on this forum.
in other news, i'm gonna be a vulture soon. yay!
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AHHH I WANT VODS BUT I DON'T WANT TO KNOW IF FLASH OR PARTING WON AHHHHHHH WHAT TO DO KIDDING IM NOT GOING TO READ WHAT YOURS REPLIES
not today, at least
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On November 17 2014 07:38 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture he means your icon I think ^^
No, that makes no sense, but yeah we need new icons! Liquiddota and liquidhearth show how it could look like :D
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Belgica34432 Posts
On November 17 2014 07:38 pedrlz wrote:
AHHH I WANT VODS BUT I DON'T WANT TO KNOW IF FLASH OR PARTING WON AHHHHHHH WHAT TO DO KIDDING IM NOT GOING TO READ WHAT YOURS REPLIES
not today, at least
VOD link in the op
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Parting is back guys! Time for him to win Hot6ix and 32b1c. Going into 2015 looking STRONG!
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On November 17 2014 07:38 Blargh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture Good, best unit in SC ever. In that case... I prefer Terran mostly because I find it's mechanics and units way better for a strategy game. But hey, it's lame to disregard someone's logical argument about something because you think the person is racially biased from their icon...
BW mutas disagree.
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On November 17 2014 07:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:38 sharkie wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture he means your icon I think ^^ No, that makes no sense, but yeah we need new icons! Liquiddota and liquidhearth show how it could look like :D
i think the broodwar icons should stay. they remind us of the past od the site and the past of the entire franchise.
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On November 17 2014 07:43 Tanzklaue wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2014 07:39 The_Red_Viper wrote:On November 17 2014 07:38 sharkie wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Dodgin wrote:On November 17 2014 07:35 Blargh wrote:On November 17 2014 07:26 Aylear wrote:On November 17 2014 07:20 Blargh wrote:
I just watched the Flash vs Parting final game 7, and every single person who voted 5 stars on that shit should just be slapped across the face at mach speed. There was seriously nothing amazing about that match. I'd give it a 2-star rating. Parting made so many mistakes in that game and just used the threat of Protoss aggression to get away with a gold base, eventually winning due to 1 base + 1 gold > 2 base. Flash was overly confident and didn't build a second bunker on the low-ground, which would have helped considerably. The match was mediocre.
It was way worse than the GSL match between Innovation and Parting, where Parting so completely had the game with blink stalkers, but instead of just transitioning like he should, he let Innovation masterfully come back in by trading units very efficiently. Sure. It was 5-starred because of how tense the final moments were and for how much it meant for the tournament. It was 5-starred because PartinG's Blink Stalkers killed God. They didn't imply anything else about the rest of it. Oh, is that a carrier? I don't actually pay attention to those little icons, they are look bad and impossible to see... I'm certainly not a Protoss player. I like Terran and Zerg considerably more, but I don't rate matches based off of what race is in the match. I rate matches based on the decision making and mechanics. Rain can make extremely good in-game choices, and I like Rain. Parting is okay, except I've always found him to be a very all-in focused player, which I tend to dislike. And sure, the final was tense because OMG IT'S FLASH GUYS, AND HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE #1 EVER, AND HERE'S A NEW FAN FAVORITE FOREIGNER-TEAM PROTOSS, PARTING. Yeah, it's 3-3 and whoever takes that next game wins the whole thing, but that was a shitty game. And it's bad to have a shitty game be the decider for a finals. Instead of feeling tense, I was sitting here thinking "Wow, that was pretty stupid..." It's a vulture he means your icon I think ^^ No, that makes no sense, but yeah we need new icons! Liquiddota and liquidhearth show how it could look like :D i think the broodwar icons should stay. they remind us of the past od the site and the past of the entire franchise.
I am fine with that actually, but they are indeed kinda tiny.
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On November 17 2014 07:37 stevorino wrote:how mod is he ^^
looool, didn't realise that live, hahaha thank you that was perfect :D
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