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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 13:20:47
August 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1221
Flash needs change something up here and do something he hasn't done to keep pigbaby on his toes.

Maybe a 3rax here would be good, like what Cure did in his GSL group, good old fashioned WOL 3rax vs toss.
Just to keep Pigbaby thinking, or Pigbaby could had prepared for Flash in the downtime he has had.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#1222
On August 12 2014 22:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:18 LeLfe wrote:
Zest + Flash qualifying for IEM would mean it's a really good week for KT


And for SC2 as well, they're definitely amidst the best of the best and Flash (dunno about Zest) definitely has some mystical power around him that makes crowd go wild ^^

zest has the biceps that make the crowd go wild
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#1223
On August 12 2014 22:15 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:09 OhDearGod wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I can very well see all Flash, Maru and INnoVatioN making a deep run in this GSL. I even predicted that the TvT curse would go on in GSL... until the finals


Its been really interesting to watch the sudden resurgence of Terrans in code S. Sure, the numbers still overwhelmingly favour protoss, but looking at the recent groups (where all terrans got through iirc playing predominantly TvP), it looks like Terrans have surged above expectations.

Pretty surprising that this would occur off the back of a patch that honestly doesn't impact the TvP matchup in a huuuge way. Sure, some of the games were decided by massive widow mine hits on probe lines, but in the majority of games, the wm impact was minimal.

Any explanations?


New WMs have completely scared off Protoss from the super effective Storm/Chargelot style. Something I think most will agree was the strongest style with the most versatility pre WM.

Thus making SCV pulls better than before.

Couple that with the lack of easy free blink stalker maps.

Then the fact that Terrans have found new timings around and against Protoss from players like Maru/Bomber.

Terrans willingness to just coin flip ala Maru's/TY's 2 rax.

And the lack of super large maps like Alterzim/Frost which allow Protoss to get to late game easier in favor of mid sized maps with more centralized bases that force Protoss to expand forward.

And then on top of the fact that Protoss players have basically taught Terrans a majority of their PvT All-ins.

And we now have a meta where Protoss players dont have any really easy or clear cut answers to the PvT meta. Zest won with some old school WoL builds. But for the most part protoss is just in that phase where they're finding an answer. (THough it isn't as bad as when only 3 players in the world could beat Inno pre-WM nerf ZvT or when only 3 Terrans could win a TvP during the blink era).


Damn, that is well thought out. I totally brushed over the potential threat of widow mines forcing P down a more predictable path.

Hopefully P figures out the meta a bit more soon (so sad seeing Trap lose in Code S T_T)
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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#1224
On August 12 2014 22:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:16 Squat wrote:
Watching Flash do this to guys like Classic is awesome, but it also kind of highlights how absurdly good Zest is.


Yeah, but we can't totally forget it's a teamkill and those games are always special.

Sure, but it's pretty hard to feel that Zest isn't the best player in the world right now, for me at least. Every time I see him play, it feels like I'm just waiting for the other guy to lose.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#1225
On August 12 2014 22:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:14 Paljas wrote:
zzz, scv pull

protoss should build 8 canons again


I don't remember which game (I think it was with Reality) but in this season's GSL some Protoss who went phoenix colossi and has scouted the scv pull way in advance had maybe 9 cannons. His control wasn't the best sure (he could have done better with his colossi focus firing), but he still looked really powerless to the following choo choo train

Aren't you talking about this one?



Hmmmm no but it quite looked like it. It was on King Sejong Station, and I'm quite sure Reality was involved, I remember thinking "no way it works, Reality is out", and some games later, he qualifies ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 12 2014 13:21 GMT
#1226
On August 12 2014 22:20 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:19 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:18 LeLfe wrote:
Zest + Flash qualifying for IEM would mean it's a really good week for KT


And for SC2 as well, they're definitely amidst the best of the best and Flash (dunno about Zest) definitely has some mystical power around him that makes crowd go wild ^^

zest has the biceps that make the crowd go wild


Oh yeah, definitely one of the fittest GSL nerds.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#1227
Flash got nothing on Pigbaby, 2-0 for the protoss easy.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#1228
Oh my god i'm actually really nervous now, that has't happened over a SC game in a long time.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#1229
Guys, remember that Pigbaby actually has really good PvT… not going to be easy for either player.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
August 12 2014 13:22 GMT
#1230
Flash will crush Pigbaby and Terran fans will shed tears of joy.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 12 2014 13:23 GMT
#1231
On August 12 2014 22:22 The_Templar wrote:
Guys, remember that Pigbaby actually has really good PvT… not going to be easy for either player.

Yeah, he absolutely, undoubtedly crushed and wrecked TaeJa
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 12 2014 13:23 GMT
#1232
On August 12 2014 22:20 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:17 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On August 12 2014 22:16 Squat wrote:
Watching Flash do this to guys like Classic is awesome, but it also kind of highlights how absurdly good Zest is.


Yeah, but we can't totally forget it's a teamkill and those games are always special.

Sure, but it's pretty hard to feel that Zest isn't the best player in the world right now, for me at least. Every time I see him play, it feels like I'm just waiting for the other guy to lose.

Watch his series vs TaeJa at the IEM and you'll have serious doubts. ;p
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 12 2014 13:23 GMT
#1233
3 gate oracle is also ok
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 12 2014 13:24 GMT
#1234
Pigbaby, go carrier or die trying plz.
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Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 12 2014 13:24 GMT
#1235
On August 12 2014 22:22 The_Templar wrote:
Guys, remember that Pigbaby actually has really good PvT… not going to be easy for either player.


I still remember those amazingly solid games in the most recent WCS where he crushed Taeja one day with super solid play, then busted out the bullshit the next to beat Bomber. This guy is the double threat. (im sorry for using that phrase)
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 12 2014 13:24 GMT
#1236
On August 12 2014 22:24 stuchiu wrote:
Pigbaby, go carrier or die trying plz.

he should just choya 4 gate that scrub
TL+ Member
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 12 2014 13:25 GMT
#1237
PIGBABY NOOOO
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 12 2014 13:25 GMT
#1238
Flash is using the high ground advantage really well there.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 12 2014 13:25 GMT
#1239
Pigbaby donating stalkers
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Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 12 2014 13:25 GMT
#1240
On August 12 2014 22:24 stuchiu wrote:
Pigbaby, go carrier or die trying plz.


Screw wins. Fans are where its at.
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