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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#1201
On August 12 2014 22:14 Morbidius wrote:
If Flash loses to pigbaby i uninstall game.

oh please pigbaby, just do it! proxy stargate into one base 4 gate and then 1 base blink 4 gate!
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#1202
Oh herO
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#1203
SCV pull are sooooo strong!
I've 85% win on ladder with that :D
GG Flash ! Only Pigbaby left
ForGG. 29/11/2014
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 13:16:48
August 12 2014 13:15 GMT
#1204
On August 12 2014 22:09 OhDearGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:05 [PkF] Wire wrote:
I can very well see all Flash, Maru and INnoVatioN making a deep run in this GSL. I even predicted that the TvT curse would go on in GSL... until the finals


Its been really interesting to watch the sudden resurgence of Terrans in code S. Sure, the numbers still overwhelmingly favour protoss, but looking at the recent groups (where all terrans got through iirc playing predominantly TvP), it looks like Terrans have surged above expectations.

Pretty surprising that this would occur off the back of a patch that honestly doesn't impact the TvP matchup in a huuuge way. Sure, some of the games were decided by massive widow mine hits on probe lines, but in the majority of games, the wm impact was minimal.

Any explanations?


New WMs have completely scared off Protoss from the super effective Storm/Chargelot style. Something I think most will agree was the strongest style with the most versatility pre WM.

Thus making SCV pulls better than before.

Couple that with the lack of easy free blink stalker maps.

Then the fact that Terrans have found new timings around and against Protoss from players like Maru/Bomber.

Terrans willingness to just coin flip ala Maru's/TY's 2 rax.

And the lack of super large maps like Alterzim/Frost which allow Protoss to get to late game easier in favor of mid sized maps with more centralized bases that force Protoss to expand forward.

And then on top of the fact that Protoss players have basically taught Terrans a majority of their PvT All-ins.

And we now have a meta where Protoss players dont have any really easy or clear cut answers to the PvT meta. Zest won with some old school WoL builds. But for the most part protoss is just in that phase where they're finding an answer. (THough it isn't as bad as when only 3 players in the world could beat Inno pre-WM nerf ZvT or when only 3 Terrans could win a TvP during the blink era).
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Svizcy
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovenia300 Posts
August 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1205
Anyone knows if they are going to relese the replays from these games?
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-12 13:17:02
August 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1206
On August 12 2014 22:14 Paljas wrote:
zzz, scv pull

protoss should build 8 canons again


I don't remember which game (I think it was with Reality) but in this season's GSL some Protoss who went phoenix colossi and has scouted the scv pull way in advance had maybe 9 cannons. His control wasn't the best sure (he could have done better with his colossi focus firing), but he still looked really powerless to the following choo choo train
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
August 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1207
Lol wtf was that advert? rofl
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1208
Watching Flash do this to guys like Classic is awesome, but it also kind of highlights how absurdly good Zest is.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 12 2014 13:16 GMT
#1209
On August 12 2014 22:14 SatedSC2 wrote:
Sigh... If only Templar-first were still possible. SCV pulls are so incredibly dull.


Not only are SCV pulls dull, but so are collossus. Templar openings imo are much more exciting to play and watch due to the micro potential for both sides.

But seriously. Fuck collossi
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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
August 12 2014 13:17 GMT
#1210
Haha that Rotti commercial.
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
Motlu
Profile Joined August 2014
Australia884 Posts
August 12 2014 13:17 GMT
#1211
On August 12 2014 22:15 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:14 Morbidius wrote:
If Flash loses to pigbaby i uninstall game.

oh please pigbaby, just do it! proxy stargate into one base 4 gate and then 1 base blink 4 gate!


I'm getting out the lotion. My body is ready.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
August 12 2014 13:17 GMT
#1212
On August 12 2014 22:16 Squat wrote:
Watching Flash do this to guys like Classic is awesome, but it also kind of highlights how absurdly good Zest is.


Yeah, but we can't totally forget it's a teamkill and those games are always special.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
August 12 2014 13:17 GMT
#1213
Poll: Who will win?

Flash (18)
 
69%

Pigbaby (8)
 
31%

26 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Flash
(Vote): Pigbaby


#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
August 12 2014 13:18 GMT
#1214
Zest + Flash qualifying for IEM would mean it's a really good week for KT
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51489 Posts
August 12 2014 13:18 GMT
#1215
Pretty sure Canadians waking up would love to see Flash at IEM :3
I also would love to see him there for Canada's sake.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
August 12 2014 13:18 GMT
#1216
On August 12 2014 22:16 OhDearGod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:14 SatedSC2 wrote:
Sigh... If only Templar-first were still possible. SCV pulls are so incredibly dull.


Not only are SCV pulls dull, but so are collossus. Templar openings imo are much more exciting to play and watch due to the micro potential for both sides.

But seriously. Fuck collossi

Hell has a place for the person who took out the reaver for that pile of trash.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 12 2014 13:18 GMT
#1217
On August 12 2014 22:16 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 22:14 Paljas wrote:
zzz, scv pull

protoss should build 8 canons again


I don't remember which game (I think it was with Reality) but in this season's GSL some Protoss who went phoenix colossi and has scouted the scv pull way in advance had maybe 9 cannons. His control wasn't the best sure (he could have done better with his colossi focus firing), but he still looked really powerless to the following choo choo train

Aren't you talking about this one?

TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
August 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1218
I can hear in my dreams rotti saying so many cores
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1219
Pigbaby 2-1 Flash,

Game 1 Blink win
Game 2 Flash wins macro
Game 3 Proxy oracle win

The interwebs explode.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24203 Posts
August 12 2014 13:19 GMT
#1220
On August 12 2014 22:18 LeLfe wrote:
Zest + Flash qualifying for IEM would mean it's a really good week for KT


And for SC2 as well, they're definitely amidst the best of the best and Flash (dunno about Zest) definitely has some mystical power around him that makes crowd go wild ^^
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