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[WCS AM] Challenger Day 3 Season 2 2014 - Page 15

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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:17 GMT
#281
On May 07 2014 09:12 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:01 Josh_Video wrote:
On May 07 2014 08:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I'm still bitter about the challenger league format and how one match determines your WCS fate, I don't understand why they didn't do it like Code A.
Not just saying this cause my favorite player ever lost, but it's also that I wanted them both in premier and it happens very often that the draws just end in some disappointment. Obviously this would still be the case with groups, but much less so.


I'm guessing due to time constraints, 2 Bo5's is easier than 5 Bo3's i guess.

I suppose, but even that feels like a very weak argument.


Oh, I completely agree is should be groups and not Bo5, but I'm just saying what i assume their reasoning is.

I remember when they announced the 2014 WCS structure, they emphasized on simplifying the challenger league and streamlining it for viewers (which it was pretty much the old Code A and yeah it could be confusing, but I pick up on those things fast ). But regardless, that challenger league gave players chances to come back after losing a match. I think they may have oversimplified the structure, all SC2 viewers understand the double elimination groups and they would've sufficed. So baffling.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 07 2014 00:18 GMT
#282
On May 07 2014 09:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:12 Josh_Video wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:01 Josh_Video wrote:
On May 07 2014 08:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I'm still bitter about the challenger league format and how one match determines your WCS fate, I don't understand why they didn't do it like Code A.
Not just saying this cause my favorite player ever lost, but it's also that I wanted them both in premier and it happens very often that the draws just end in some disappointment. Obviously this would still be the case with groups, but much less so.


I'm guessing due to time constraints, 2 Bo5's is easier than 5 Bo3's i guess.

I suppose, but even that feels like a very weak argument.


Oh, I completely agree is should be groups and not Bo5, but I'm just saying what i assume their reasoning is.

I remember when they announced the 2014 WCS structure, they emphasized on simplifying the challenger league and streamlining it for viewers (which it was pretty much the old Code A and yeah it could be confusing, but I pick up on those things fast ). But regardless, that challenger league gave players chances to come back after losing a match. I think they may have oversimplified the structure, all SC2 viewers understand the double elimination groups and they would've sufficed. So baffling.

Yeah. The bracket ----> groups was confusing but I think the way Code A is now is better than how Challenger is in AM and EU
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Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
May 07 2014 00:20 GMT
#283
On May 07 2014 09:17 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:12 Josh_Video wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:02 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:01 Josh_Video wrote:
On May 07 2014 08:59 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
I'm still bitter about the challenger league format and how one match determines your WCS fate, I don't understand why they didn't do it like Code A.
Not just saying this cause my favorite player ever lost, but it's also that I wanted them both in premier and it happens very often that the draws just end in some disappointment. Obviously this would still be the case with groups, but much less so.


I'm guessing due to time constraints, 2 Bo5's is easier than 5 Bo3's i guess.

I suppose, but even that feels like a very weak argument.


Oh, I completely agree is should be groups and not Bo5, but I'm just saying what i assume their reasoning is.

I remember when they announced the 2014 WCS structure, they emphasized on simplifying the challenger league and streamlining it for viewers (which it was pretty much the old Code A and yeah it could be confusing, but I pick up on those things fast ). But regardless, that challenger league gave players chances to come back after losing a match. I think they may have oversimplified the structure, all SC2 viewers understand the double elimination groups and they would've sufficed. So baffling.


Yeah, I could see the old bracket into group stages thing being a little inefficient, but going from that, where a player had 3 chances to get in, to a single Bo5 is bad.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
May 07 2014 00:22 GMT
#284
Wow! Congratz Hendralisk. Gotta agree with everyone though. I would have liked to have seen groups here, but as is, its going to be a premier league without Scarlett.
Hopefully she keeps confident and motivated and comes out with a huge bang next season and in other leagues.

Excited for Has and Pigbaby. Not particularly a fan of either, but I like to root for Taiwanese and JinAir players, but Pigbaby left JinAir, so gogo Has! XD
Suteki Da Ne 素敵だね Isn't it Wonderful
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
May 07 2014 00:24 GMT
#285
On May 07 2014 09:11 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:09 mikumegurine wrote:
so pigbaby and Has forced to play on NA server, when both would benefit from less lag on korea server?

well, you know it's called WCS AMERICA for a reason


so? the ro8 will be all korea again, also venue in europe XDDDDDDD
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:25 GMT
#286
On May 07 2014 09:24 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:11 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:09 mikumegurine wrote:
so pigbaby and Has forced to play on NA server, when both would benefit from less lag on korea server?

well, you know it's called WCS AMERICA for a reason


so? the ro8 will be all korea again, also venue in europe XDDDDDDD

Everybody with the misinformation? ESL has bought space in California (don't remember city) and will be hosting all of WCS America from there, including live playoffs.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 07 2014 00:26 GMT
#287
On May 07 2014 09:25 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:24 Xinzoe wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:11 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:09 mikumegurine wrote:
so pigbaby and Has forced to play on NA server, when both would benefit from less lag on korea server?

well, you know it's called WCS AMERICA for a reason


so? the ro8 will be all korea again, also venue in europe XDDDDDDD

Everybody with the misinformation? ESL has bought space in California (don't remember city) and will be hosting all of WCS America from there, including live playoffs.

Yeah just referring to last season.
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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 00:27:49
May 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#288
Has going show up at 6pm PST as agreed upon
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 07 2014 00:27 GMT
#289
Disappointed Scarlett didn't make it but hendralisk has been playing very well and is definitely deserving of a spot in Premier. Good luck next season Scarlett. I wonder if she will try for Code A since she can't really make blizzcon anyways and said she was considering it for season 3 when she left for Korea
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:28 GMT
#290
On May 07 2014 09:27 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:24 Xinzoe wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:11 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:09 mikumegurine wrote:
so pigbaby and Has forced to play on NA server, when both would benefit from less lag on korea server?

well, you know it's called WCS AMERICA for a reason


so? the ro8 will be all korea again, also venue in europe XDDDDDDD


nope Jim going to get 5th again, and Hendralisk going to be 4th (same as Scarlett's highest placing at WCS NA)

and ESL is renovating a venue in Los Angeles for the WCS NA Ro16

aLive won't be there to take his spot in the non-existent Season 2 Finals after Jim has Visa issues again. Part of me misses those season finals just because of the great games they produced, but it's probably for the best that they're gone.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 07 2014 00:29 GMT
#291
On May 07 2014 09:27 Shellshock wrote:
Disappointed Scarlett didn't make it but hendralisk has been playing very well and is definitely deserving of a spot in Premier. Good luck next season Scarlett. I wonder if she will try for Code A since she can't really make blizzcon anyways and said she was considering it for season 3 when she left for Korea


She might as well try at this point, got nothing else to lose. If she could make that I think it would completely redeam the recent slump.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 07 2014 00:29 GMT
#292
On May 07 2014 09:28 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:27 mikumegurine wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:24 Xinzoe wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:11 Undead1993 wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:09 mikumegurine wrote:
so pigbaby and Has forced to play on NA server, when both would benefit from less lag on korea server?

well, you know it's called WCS AMERICA for a reason


so? the ro8 will be all korea again, also venue in europe XDDDDDDD


nope Jim going to get 5th again, and Hendralisk going to be 4th (same as Scarlett's highest placing at WCS NA)

and ESL is renovating a venue in Los Angeles for the WCS NA Ro16

aLive won't be there to take his spot in the non-existent Season 2 Finals after Jim has Visa issues again. Part of me misses those season finals just because of the great games they produced, but it's probably for the best that they're gone.

Man that was fortuitous.
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GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
May 07 2014 00:29 GMT
#293
Hendralisk is such a bawss
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 07 2014 00:30 GMT
#294
On May 07 2014 09:29 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:27 Shellshock wrote:
Disappointed Scarlett didn't make it but hendralisk has been playing very well and is definitely deserving of a spot in Premier. Good luck next season Scarlett. I wonder if she will try for Code A since she can't really make blizzcon anyways and said she was considering it for season 3 when she left for Korea


She might as well try at this point, got nothing else to lose. If she could make that I think it would completely redeam the recent slump.

Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking.
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:31 GMT
#295
On May 07 2014 09:27 Shellshock wrote:
Disappointed Scarlett didn't make it but hendralisk has been playing very well and is definitely deserving of a spot in Premier. Good luck next season Scarlett. I wonder if she will try for Code A since she can't really make blizzcon anyways and said she was considering it for season 3 when she left for Korea

I really hope so, although I think I will be away at camp during that Code A it would be awesome to see her get through and have the first foreigner in Code S for a good number of seasons. That would be so sick.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:33 GMT
#296
Alright I am gonna go downstairs and see if I can find the most exquisite cheese that I have to enjoy during this upcoming PvP. Should get into the spirit after all.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 07 2014 00:34 GMT
#297
I wish I could get an ad that was not about that new movie with Zac Efron in a frat living next door to Seth Rogen or w/e.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 07 2014 00:35 GMT
#298
On May 07 2014 09:34 Darkhorse wrote:
I wish I could get an ad that was not about that new movie with Zac Efron in a frat living next door to Seth Rogen or w/e.


I wish I could get that commercial, at least it would be FUCKING LAGGY AND CRASHY
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 07 2014 00:36 GMT
#299
On May 07 2014 09:34 Darkhorse wrote:
I wish I could get an ad that was not about that new movie with Zac Efron in a frat living next door to Seth Rogen or w/e.

You are jealous of Zac Efron's abs
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
May 07 2014 00:37 GMT
#300
On May 07 2014 09:33 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Alright I am gonna go downstairs and see if I can find the most exquisite cheese that I have to enjoy during this upcoming PvP. Should get into the spirit after all.

Update: the only cheese I have seemed to find were some cheese sticks. I have failed my duties as a proxy Frenchman.
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